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nVidia MX 440 faulty Shiny rendering after 1.7

Dane Zander
Sacerdos Maximus * Apollo
Join date: 23 May 2004
Posts: 18
12-16-2005 06:41
From Bug Report(s):

Steps to reproduce the bug:
log into SL using said vid card.

Observed results:
see attached screenshots - all shiny objects render varying shades of milky white, depending on how shiny they are. Most shiny = whitest.

Expected results:
A fix ASAP - we are many users on this card and on the 4400 which has the same problem after 1.7. I am on driver v. 81.95, latest release - have done everything possible to hunt down the bug locally - switched off any other feasible feature or app which might put load on the vid card.

I am on a spyware-free, virus-free, in all other respects bother-free Compaq w.
Pentium 4 CPU 2.66 Ghz,
1 Gig RAM
XP SP2
nVidia MX 440

*edit* and a 4MB broadband connection

which surely meets the tech specs?

Shiny does work - IF in Mouselook OR camera zoomed behind avatars head (thus taking up 1/3 of the screen, ruining gameplay and building).

And this has been the case since the 1.7 upgrade.

Please - information? Not just another email address...
Lex Neva
wears dorky glasses
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,361
12-16-2005 09:28
I have this exact same issue on my card, an nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400. I used to think that it was only happening when the camera was facing to the southeast, because often you can pan your camera around a shiny object and find a border point that you can cross over and watch shiny flick on and off.

Then I noticed that I tend to lose shiny when my friend who wears high heels is around. I _think_ what's happening is that any time there's one of those hacky "invisiprims" on the screen, or just off the edge of the screen, or just somewhere nearby, shiny will turn off and we get this milky white business. If I pan my camera so that I can't see my friend's high heels, shiny comes back.

Also interesting is that if I rez a big invisiprim, it seems like most of the shiny in the world turns off, but anything I look at THROUGH the invisiprim is shiny still. This isn't the way things used to happen... I seem to remember that shiny used to not render in areas occluded by an invisiprim.

Either way, it's maddeningly annoying to see shiny constantly switching on and off. I know these are old cards we're dealing with, but it's what I have to work with right now because I'm broke.
Thili Playfair
Registered User
Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,417
12-16-2005 15:37
Do you get the same wierd shiney with lower version nv drivers?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-2k_archive.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_71.89.html <one id use with mx card
Dane Zander
Sacerdos Maximus * Apollo
Join date: 23 May 2004
Posts: 18
Thanks - Testing
12-16-2005 18:20
Thanks Thili - am testing it right now and *crossing fingers, holding breath* so far so good! :D Not having my shiny at least has sooo been a nuisance.

Will test a tad longer - but huge thanks for suggesting this. I have been told by LL again and again to upgrade upgrade upgrade lol. Who knew? You did, it seems. Yay!
Dane Zander
Sacerdos Maximus * Apollo
Join date: 23 May 2004
Posts: 18
nVidia bliss
12-16-2005 19:21
*backflip*
*somersault*
*silly happy dance*
*blank watery eyes*
*stupid grin
*triple Lutz with quadruple somersault AND all of the above*

been testing now for an hour - rigorously - chnging settings - zooming in and out till my avies head felt like Linda Blairs in one old movie...

IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again Thili!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
12-16-2005 19:30
From: Dane Zander
*backflip*
*somersault*
*silly happy dance*
*blank watery eyes*
*stupid grin
*triple Lutz with quadruple somersault AND all of the above*

been testing now for an hour - rigorously - chnging settings - zooming in and out till my avies head felt like Linda Blairs in one old movie...

IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again Thili!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


What a joyous exclamation.

Funny how the older things can sometimes be better... but then again, that's consistent with your timely look of Apollo, which, is really gorgeous, and I can see why you want your shiny. :)
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Lex Neva
wears dorky glasses
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,361
12-17-2005 09:30
From: Thili Playfair
Do you get the same wierd shiney with lower version nv drivers?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-2k_archive.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_71.89.html <one id use with mx card


Whoa! Why would you use a lower driver version? That's like 10 major version numbers back...
Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 5,634
12-17-2005 10:36
From: Lex Neva
Whoa! Why would you use a lower driver version? That's like 10 major version numbers back...


So shiny works?
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Lex Neva
wears dorky glasses
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,361
12-17-2005 10:59
Note: when downgrading an Nvidia driver, be sure to uninstall the old driver first.

What a mess.

From: Zapoteth Zaius
So shiny works?


No, not quite yet :P
Lex Neva
wears dorky glasses
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,361
12-17-2005 13:58
Yes! It appears this solved the problem! I had given up all hope of ever having working shiny again... thank you, Thili!

All that remains is to wonder WHY the newer driver causes a problem, and what made you choose that specific old version.
Thili Playfair
Registered User
Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,417
12-17-2005 14:03
The newer drivers work diffrently then older , MX card got abandoned awhile ago, so higher version you get no benifit from using them at all,

Ok some games got bugfixed but it do squat for a mx card, really! since you cant use the effects/things, as mx cards never had it in first place -.- like ugly tearing done in some games in older drivers got fixed - dx shader bug.

New drivers are usually bug fixes/additions like sli fix, wouldnt use a high driver version number, unless you have gforce 6-7xxxx

Wonder what changed in their drivers tho, since shiney just dies in SL with newer drivers.