ATI Radeon 9200 ???

Will this Run SL untill we can get a better one?

Thanks!

Well I used to use an ATI Radeon 9250 with 128 megs DDR on board.......it worked okay. But not sure about the 9200. Might check for the latest drivers and install them.

I too use ati radeon 9250 but SL still runs like CRAP.... Objects n etc flickers.... i end up walking into the ground deep and sometimes i keep on flying forever.... SL crashs on me MILLIONS of times too....


I did download any possible upgrades for my ATI yesterday but SL still runs like DOOKIE

Okay my take on SL running like crap on one computer and okay or great on another. I think it's not so much the hardware, OS, configuration, client or any such things. It's more where you are, how fast your ISP happens to be in your location AND.............how fast LL's servers are and the network integritity at any given moment. Sometimes my SL runs like sh** and sometimes is sings while others are having huge problems. I happen to be one who checks daily for updates to all my hardware and software. My system is current..............always. But SL does not run consistantly well or bad. Just whatever, depending on what's happening everywhere else. The internet, my ISP, LL's scaling crap, LL's networking, and any number of uncontrollables. The often accused culprit in most of SL's problems are the graphics drivers, the users computer and it's configuration, the settings the user has for SL's use, and firewalls. I just don't believe those are nearly the problem people make them to be.......they are more or less easy answers for everyone to point to. And Linden Labs sure points to them in most cases. If your computer meets minium requirements then SL should run (depending on how close you are to the minimum will certainly dictate just how well it does run).......but it should run in an acceptable way. If it does not then there is a problem.............and with the almost constant problems of an identical nature effecting a numerous amount of users logic would dictate that the problem is not on the users end. That just defies logic.

Now if SL does require higher than advertised minimum requirements for a user's computer then it would make sense.......but I just don't find where that has changed since I've been in game. My computer runs SL reasonably good most of the time......it meets and excceeds the minimum. But my old computer just barely made the minimun...........and it ran fine too.

So what I'm saying is..............all this talk about drivers, CPU speed, monitor resolution etc is hogwash. SL is very data intensive..........huge amounts of data transfer 100% of the time. One's computer will process that data pretty much at the same rate no matter what. Variables outside that box effect the proformance more than anything. Drivers seldom go out of date on their own................if the application changes and requires the hardware to proform something it cannot do without new drivers then don't blame the drivers. Blame the application.

If Linden Labs is trying to do something that the internet, ISP's, and users computers cannot do then it's LL's responsiblilty to fix it. That is called out running the technology. It's impossible to expect a machine to do something it is not designed to do. And I think that is exactly what LL is doing. Asking our machines to do something more than they are capable of doing. Some higher end computer will cope...........but the ones on the edge or even a little on the plus side of that edge will not necessarily cope. And many will not. Same with the internet and ISP's. Everything will perform pretty much to it's capablilties.......but not much beyond.

That's my take.

True it could depend on ISP and SL/LL side's.... but i am on DSL and everything was running really good up till their last 2 upgrades and i have this info....

CPU: Not supported (2993 Mhz)
Memory: 1022 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: RADEON 9200 Series DDR x86/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 1.3.1072 WinXP Release
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.10_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 11423/178181 (6.4%)
Viewer Digest: 52269e13-f0b3-12ae-a46d-b0560f6ced6e

But the info says i have 9200 but my box n etc brandnew from the store is 9250..... SL is really messed up..... Even the info n etc of my ATI in task bar tray says 9250....

I can run any other 3D play games like World Of Warcraft, There and etc no problems at all.

The 9250 is a member of the 9200 series. It is a giant glass of suck for a video card but it sucks to the point of not working hardly at all if it is integrated onto the motherboard. A separate card version can run SL, just not very well. Since you can pick up an Nvidia 6600GT(it works great with SL) from Tiger Direct for $50, there isn't much reason to live in 3 fps hell. ATI cards from the 9xxx era really don't work well with SL in general because of OpenGL problems and ATI although the later versions seem to do ok.

All LL servers do( to put it simply) is keep track of where you are and where other objects are in relation to you while also storing particulars about each object. the asset server keeps track of textures and inventory. The client does pretty much everything else. If you can walk around smoothly and you aren't seeing a lot of packet loss (red bar at the top right of the screen) then it isn't necessarily your internet connection to the server having problems. If you can walk around but you are in a gray world then the asset server isn't dishing out the textures but that may be due to load and not internet speed usually. If you can walk around in a fully textured world but you are only getting 5 frames per second then it is something on your end most likely ( unless there are a lot of avatars or griefing objects going off). It may be that LL added something to increase the load on your system or created a memory leak or who knows what but it usually means your client can't handle the load. that can mean scads of programs running in the background, a low end CPU, a low end video card, or a bad configuration or a gazillion other things. Usually, if you have a connection that is rated 360 k bps or better, SL should run well enough.