Only rich people should be heard

a long time ago i bought little 1m3 plots and put tombstones on them and i got a personal email saying it was cool.

now, you guys open a new port with every audio or video, much less new ports that break your install program if the user runs a firewall....

well guess what, users HAVE TO RUN firewalls. do you run them? no, the devs (or more properly their underpaid lackeys who probably look like racoons from lack of sleep) don't have to think about firewalls or proxies or anything networks except LETS JUST USE ANOTHER PORT

ports are not candy. you guys should use ONE PORT, and use it well. and when clients want to stream audio, they should have ONE PORT to stream THE BROADCAST PORT. video likewise.

oh no wait, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPAWN A NEW PORT WITH EVERY RENDERING PROCESS AND THE WHOLE INTERNET SHOULD FLOOD WITH ALL YOUR FASCINATING DATA SO THAT EVERY ROUTER ON EARTH CAN HEAR ALL YOUR COOL TRAFFIC.

i thought you guys--YOU GUYS ABOVE ALL--would understand that PORTS ARE SACRED.

it is security but it is more than that it is COHERENCE and NON-STUPIDITY.

in my ideal world you will emit a client that needs only one port and some vpn channels broadcast for streaming.

but who cares, only poor people should drive crappy cars and only stupid people should have computer problems. only rich people should be heard.

regards,

Transit Wheeling

i don't mean to hurt feelings and i'm not an expert but there have to be better ways to stream content and client updates than MORE AND MORE AND MORE PORTS.

if i have to accept every socket request from all IP addresses, then my security software loses yet another control mechanism... i don't know what the answer is but then i'm not being paid millions of dollars to figure this sht out.

you are the content provider. you tell me what to screen against.

Streaming content isn't LL responsibility and it's up to the provider of the content what port they use. Not sure what firewall you are using up incoming streams requested by you (well Secondlife, IE, Opera, whatever ) shouldn't require you to keep opening ports. You should only need to open ports if you are hosting something not requesting content.

As for multiple ports, they are essential and there for a purpose. Having an application using multiple ports is perfectly acceptable and commonplace amongst anyone writing applications of this ilk.

Just get a $50 Linksys router, don't have to touch a setting and it will work fine and then you can remove the software firewall that slows your computer down and apparently gives you grief with SL.

i will not vote only cause you choices are 2 limited....the client does only use one port...the streaming content port is up to the content provider and i also don't know what firewall you are using cause no matter where i go and play the streaming content i do not have to open a new port....and of course LL uses firewalls comme on now be reasonable and proxies and DMZ's if they did not they would be stupid and would not be up anymore cuase i know some people have nothing better than to try and ruine what someone else hase worked hard to make

Uh, you do know that when you stream media in Second Life, it is nothing to do with the linden labs servers

All they do is tell the media player on your PC the url of the server that sends out the stream - for example, the embedded quicktime control that they use - which third party software does all of the networking to conect to the stream on the third party software.

The reason they chose to stream it DIRECT from the content provider to your client PC is that it is far and away the best method of streaming the content to you without totaly screwing up the bandwidth usage at their end.

lol i'm sorry blitzer, i had a little trouble reading your font there. maybe i should have stood farther from my screen--like china.

ok, i'm wrong about the streaming content, but kaspersky gave me like 20 bitch windows on the new client version update.

didn't do it yesterday. didn't do it on the previous version. other games don't need that many ports.

put that in bolt, beranek and neuman's pipe and smoke it.

Not sure why the update should have done that, I doubt it uses ANY major ports as it's essentially just a straight download and probably just opens an FTP connection or similar. Having said that seems something setup wrong in your firewall as it shouldn't have bitched once as opening points to download content happens all the time whether in SecondLife or not.

everyone should be heard equally, however i respect your oppinion

I beg to differ as I ahve one of those routers and it will NOT allow SL to run at all.

SL uses external programs for media streaming: FMOD for audio and QuickTime for video. These programs open up their own ports to do their jobs so there's very little LL can do about that.

And you are positive you updated the latest firmware, turned off windows firewall, and have no other firewalls? I find this hard to believe, what model do you have?