Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

Optimising Wireless for SL

Leo Mission
Registered User
Join date: 6 Jan 2006
Posts: 189
02-02-2006 04:56
Yes, I know I know! Wireless is not recommended for SL, dump it and get landline (see Wiki help section on the problems below).

It's not that easy though. I have wireless connection provided for me and I don't have the ability to set up a landline where I am. Period.

The trouble is, when it works, it works great. I don't notice a thing, wireless and SL go hand in hand.

When it doesn't work though (like now), I can't log in for days at a time, very frustrating - despite the internet connection being fine and my computer being up to the task. I log in and maybe last ten or twenty seconds before one of the several happen: -

1) I get stuck and can only rotate on the spot

2) I end up continuing a motion ad finitum, flying through walls, and eventually the floor and the ground and into the bowels of the earth

3) it tells me my clothing is still downloading and that to carry on because everyone else will see me normally - except I'm stuck

4) it doesn't load at all

What I wanted to know is why does it work great some times and not at all at others? Is there some way I can configure my wireless settings to make it work well of the time? I really need help because if I can't sort this out, I will have to downgrade my account and effectively leave SL because I can't afford not to be able to log in.

Any expert advice would be appreciated.
MadamG Zagato
means business
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,402
02-02-2006 05:10
Those behaviors you listed above...happened to me with a wired connection. I am using wireless at home for SL and it works better than the wired connection does. Things rez faster and I got less lag. Go figure.
_____________________
Leo Mission
Registered User
Join date: 6 Jan 2006
Posts: 189
02-02-2006 05:21
How strange - it's idiosyncratic then? This is really cheesing me off, I haven't been able to log in for over 48 hours in any meaningful way other than to say "hi" and then get stuck. I've tried everything I can think of, changing my log in location to my home instead of the last place, stripping down my settings, teleporting in my little window of opportunity to a low-lag place, stripping my av down to just basic clothing...

NOTHING is working. I thought maybe the update would sort it out, but it's made no difference at all. I'm losing hope and heart :(
Pym Sartre
Castle Overseer
Join date: 27 Oct 2005
Posts: 100
02-02-2006 06:16
Also chiming in, I use nothing but wifi-g at home and haven't noticed any problems. Perhaps some network testing to see if it's a bandwidth problem from the provider?

Pym
Laukosargas Svarog
Angel ?
Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,304
02-02-2006 06:18
I use SL on a PowerBook with Airport. It makes absolutely no difference to speed if I hard wire an ethernet cable. I've tried it many times. I think the perceived problems with wireless have far more to do with certain types of hardware than they do with the protocol.
Cabo Gregoire
CG Designs
Join date: 14 Nov 2005
Posts: 85
02-02-2006 06:29
I use wired on my PC and wireless on my laptop .. wireless works just fine
_____________________
Cabo Gregoire

CG Designs
Kokomo Club

CreditCards (75, 231, 23)
Introvert Petunia
over 2 billion posts
Join date: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,065
02-02-2006 06:34
There is a mode of WiFi, called type-2 by the 802.11b/g spec that allows out-of-order delivery of frames; this is sometimes called "hyper-mode" or "ultra-mode" or "whizzy-mode" and will kill your SL experience.

Some WAPs and WiFi cards support this, some have it on by default, some kinda hide that they are using whizzy-mode. If you are not running whizzy-mode, your WiFi should do fine, just so long as you have good reception and aren't resending or dropping WiFi frames.

I've run SL over 802.11g (54Mbps) where you couldn't tell that it wasn't on a wire, but neither my WAP nor my WiFi NIC supports whizzy-mode.
Laukosargas Svarog
Angel ?
Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,304
02-02-2006 06:40
From: Introvert Petunia
There is a mode of WiFi, called type-2 by the 802.11b/g spec that allows out-of-order delivery of frames; this is sometimes called "hyper-mode" or "ultra-mode" or "whizzy-mode" and will kill your SL experience.

Some WAPs and WiFi cards support this, some have it on by default, some kinda hide that they are using whizzy-mode. If you are not running whizzy-mode, your WiFi should do fine, just so long as you have good reception and aren't resending or dropping WiFi frames.

I've run SL over 802.11g (54Mbps) where you couldn't tell that it wasn't on a wire, but neither my WAP nor my WiFi NIC supports whizzy-mode.


Iiinnterreessttingg ! Thank you for that little gem of info :) I've not really dug into this before, perhaps I should !
Leo Mission
Registered User
Join date: 6 Jan 2006
Posts: 189
02-02-2006 07:12
From: Introvert Petunia
There is a mode of WiFi, called type-2 by the 802.11b/g spec that allows out-of-order delivery of frames; this is sometimes called "hyper-mode" or "ultra-mode" or "whizzy-mode" and will kill your SL experience.

Some WAPs and WiFi cards support this, some have it on by default, some kinda hide that they are using whizzy-mode. If you are not running whizzy-mode, your WiFi should do fine, just so long as you have good reception and aren't resending or dropping WiFi frames.

I've run SL over 802.11g (54Mbps) where you couldn't tell that it wasn't on a wire, but neither my WAP nor my WiFi NIC supports whizzy-mode.


Thank you! That is such a useful tip. Actually my WiFi works great normally with SL, but every now and again it crashed bigtime.

I can't find exactly those term, but I suspect "Afterburner" mode to be something like it?

Anyway, I'm disabling now and gonna try it out
Introvert Petunia
over 2 billion posts
Join date: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,065
02-02-2006 07:16
From: someone
I can't find exactly those term, but I suspect "Afterburner" mode to be something like it?

Anyway, I'm disabling now and gonna try it out
"Afterburner" is probably type-2. Good luck with your test.
Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
02-02-2006 07:23
Wireless works fine for me too; at least, it seems to, not having anything to compare it with really. Maybe I should take the pbook to a net cafe some time and check it out.
Leo Mission
Registered User
Join date: 6 Jan 2006
Posts: 189
02-02-2006 07:40
From: Introvert Petunia
"Afterburner" is probably type-2. Good luck with your test.


Well, it was worth a try...



...didn't make much difference unfortunately.

As for the connection, I did a test and it came back at 206 Kbps (25.8 KB/sec) for downstream and 48 Kbps (6.0 KB/sec) for upstream. Not great, but I have run SL successfully at those speeds before.

Still hoping it will fix itself like it did the last time, but not really that confident that it will happen.
Striker Wolfe
.
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 355
02-03-2006 09:17
From: Introvert Petunia
"Afterburner" is probably type-2. Good luck with your test.


This is incorrect, Afterburner is used with "54G with Speed Booster" which is sold on Broadcom cards, Linksys utilizes it and it runs in a full duplex mode. I switched from 54G to 54G with Speed Booster and my efficiency moved from 35% to 54% which was quite impressive. It has nothing to do with type-2 and if your hardware isn't Speed Booster compatible its just going to be off, no biggie. I really have no issues with SL and wireless, it works just as good as my other computer on a hardwire line.