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Jaycatt Nico

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02-27-2006 16:37

I have a friend who can log in to SL, but can barely do anything due to the lag. She doesn't have the money to upgrade her PC. We're looking to relocate our land to a less laggy sim until she is able to perform an upgrade. What should I be looking for in a new sim?

The best sim for low lag is an empty one, of course

But is there anything else to look for, something I could use the Ctrl-Shift-1 menu to see?

And when we start rebuilding, what should we avoid placing on the land? I get the idea that it's good to leave out: Linden trees, moving textures and ambient sounds, and anything that animates on it's own. Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance!

SuezanneC Baskerville

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02-27-2006 18:20

I suspect that this discussion might be more fruitful if we had the specs for the friend's computer, even though there are no funds for upgrading.

Does the friend's lag vary much depending on where they are in SL?

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Corvus Drake

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02-28-2006 13:40

Also, I sell computers and computer upgrades for L$, so if the specs are sub-par on your friend's system, let me know and we'll work out what part and what cost.

I'd say defragging, running ad removal softs, and running disk cleanup would help.

Logan Bauer

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02-28-2006 13:52

A couple other client-side suggestions your friend might want to try on their machine, in their SL preferences (just incase you haven’t already done this) – Turn object detail, AV detail, and tree detail sliders all the way down, turn off local lighting, shiny, ect… Turn particles off or to about 300 max, turn your draw distance down to about 64-100, ect – every setting in there basically put it as low as it will go. Some people smarter than I may be able to elaborate here... Also posting your friends machine’s specs may help afforementioned smarter people help you out, as was mentioned.

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BlackAdder York

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02-28-2006 20:40

Yup, specs are crucial. For purposes of comparison, my own system has been unusable on the main grid (even with virtually all rendering disabled) since 1.6 was released. The specs are:

Pentium III-S 1.4gHz
Intel 810E2 motherboard, 133mHz FSB
512mb SDRAM
PNY Verto GeForce FX 5500 128mb PCI (25% overclocked), 81.98 driver
7200 rpm hard drive with 2mb cache
SoundMax Digital Audio
T-1 connection

I run nothing at all in the background and have all but the most necessary Windows Services disabled.

On the test grid I get about 14fps, on the main grid about 0.5-2.5fps.

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Corvus Drake

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Join date: 12 Feb 2006

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03-01-2006 14:04

The new 82.xx series beta drivers from nVidia may help.

That processor is the problem, combined with the RAM. SDRAM is low speed for SL anyway, and I would NEVER recommend running SL with less than 1GB unless you have your own island with nothing on it and never intend to leave it.

IMHO LL should not be listing Pentium 3s as "compatible" with SL. Sure, they'll work...slowly....very....slowly.....

Your best bet would be to get a P4 or, for cheaper and better performance, an AMD Athlon64. The video card is so so just keep your graphics options to a minimum. 1GB DDR kits are cheap these days and easy to come by, and the newer processors' usage of Dual Channel tech speeds things along as well.

Solving Lag Without An Upgrade
Jaycatt Nico Musical Cat Join date: 1 Jun 2005 Posts: 169	02-27-2006 16:37 I have a friend who can log in to SL, but can barely do anything due to the lag. She doesn't have the money to upgrade her PC. We're looking to relocate our land to a less laggy sim until she is able to perform an upgrade. What should I be looking for in a new sim? The best sim for low lag is an empty one, of course But is there anything else to look for, something I could use the Ctrl-Shift-1 menu to see? And when we start rebuilding, what should we avoid placing on the land? I get the idea that it's good to leave out: Linden trees, moving textures and ambient sounds, and anything that animates on it's own. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance!
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	02-27-2006 18:20 I suspect that this discussion might be more fruitful if we had the specs for the friend's computer, even though there are no funds for upgrading. Does the friend's lag vary much depending on where they are in SL? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	02-28-2006 13:40 Also, I sell computers and computer upgrades for L$, so if the specs are sub-par on your friend's system, let me know and we'll work out what part and what cost. I'd say defragging, running ad removal softs, and running disk cleanup would help.
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	02-28-2006 13:52 A couple other client-side suggestions your friend might want to try on their machine, in their SL preferences (just incase you haven’t already done this) – Turn object detail, AV detail, and tree detail sliders all the way down, turn off local lighting, shiny, ect… Turn particles off or to about 300 max, turn your draw distance down to about 64-100, ect – every setting in there basically put it as low as it will go. Some people smarter than I may be able to elaborate here... Also posting your friends machine’s specs may help afforementioned smarter people help you out, as was mentioned. _____________________ PICS - BLOG - http://arcticgreenhouse.blogspot.com/ XSTREET - INWORLD -http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alternate Reality/144/138/54/
BlackAdder York Charter Member Join date: 22 May 2003 Posts: 283	02-28-2006 20:40 Yup, specs are crucial. For purposes of comparison, my own system has been unusable on the main grid (even with virtually all rendering disabled) since 1.6 was released. The specs are: Pentium III-S 1.4gHz Intel 810E2 motherboard, 133mHz FSB 512mb SDRAM PNY Verto GeForce FX 5500 128mb PCI (25% overclocked), 81.98 driver 7200 rpm hard drive with 2mb cache SoundMax Digital Audio T-1 connection I run nothing at all in the background and have all but the most necessary Windows Services disabled. On the test grid I get about 14fps, on the main grid about 0.5-2.5fps. _____________________ Avatar Central (Aqua 140, 220) - Come in and Equip yourself. Everything under the sun, plus a few Freebies. The Black Adder...Lord High Executioner, and Harbinger of the Doomed Rat
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	03-01-2006 14:04 The new 82.xx series beta drivers from nVidia may help. That processor is the problem, combined with the RAM. SDRAM is low speed for SL anyway, and I would NEVER recommend running SL with less than 1GB unless you have your own island with nothing on it and never intend to leave it. IMHO LL should not be listing Pentium 3s as "compatible" with SL. Sure, they'll work...slowly....very....slowly..... Your best bet would be to get a P4 or, for cheaper and better performance, an AMD Athlon64. The video card is so so just keep your graphics options to a minimum. 1GB DDR kits are cheap these days and easy to come by, and the newer processors' usage of Dual Channel tech speeds things along as well.

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