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Timeless Prototype

Humble

Join date: 14 Aug 2004

Posts: 216

12-15-2004 00:52

Ok, in the release notes it says it will reject objects and payments whilst in Busy mode.

What happens if your prime reason for being busy is because you're shopping and don't want to be disturbed?

If a Vendor script can't give the avie the object, how can it detect that? How can the Vendor script then refund the avie if it could figure out a failed transaction?

I think your solution to another problem has created another problem.

I have a bad taste in my mouth about this one, but congrats on the other changes.

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Aaron Levy

Medicated Lately?

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,147

12-15-2004 02:10

This isn't a change -- inventory offers have always been denied while in busy mode. I've lost several thousands of dollars worth of items this way.

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Timeless Prototype

Humble

Join date: 14 Aug 2004

Posts: 216

12-15-2004 02:18

I'm speechless. Lindens? Comments please?

omg.

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Kelly Linden

Linden Developer

Join date: 29 Mar 2004

Posts: 896

12-15-2004 08:11

The point of busy mode is to block out interruptions, including potential spam inventory offers. Speaking from experience sometimes there is nothing more annoying than having a notecard or screenshot fill my screen when I'm busy building or scripting.

This release adds a new dialog box when you try to use 'pay' while in busy mode to alert you that if what you are paying tries to give you any inventory while you are still in busy mode you will not recieve it. This dialog also gives you the option to leave busy mode before paying and to not have the dialog box show again for the rest of the session.

Using 'Buy' to purchase items is not affected by being in busy mode.

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Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,725

12-15-2004 08:43

Both of the new web-based shops could be affected by this. If you buy something on the SL Exchange or Gigas website while your avatar is in Busy mode, SL will automatically block the delivery.

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Lecktor Hannibal

YOUR MOM

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 6,734

12-15-2004 08:54

From: Kelly Linden

The point of busy mode is to block out interruptions, including potential spam inventory offers. Speaking from experience sometimes there is nothing more annoying than having a notecard or screenshot fill my screen when I'm busy building or scripting.

This release adds a new dialog box when you try to use 'pay' while in busy mode to alert you that if what you are paying tries to give you any inventory while you are still in busy mode you will not recieve it. This dialog also gives you the option to leave busy mode before paying and to not have the dialog box show again for the rest of the session.

Using 'Buy' to purchase items is not affected by being in busy mode.

Was this something someone suggested or asked for ? I can't see the logic in it either.

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Apotheus Silverman

I write code.

Join date: 17 Nov 2003

Posts: 416

12-15-2004 09:16

From: Cubey Terra

Both of the new web-based shops could be affected by this. If you buy something on the SL Exchange or Gigas website while your avatar is in Busy mode, SL will automatically block the delivery.

This is true. We have a popup warning about this situation, but a lot of people don't read popup warnings.

I think what we need is a way for LSL scripts to get a return code / status for llGiveInventory. As avatars we get a visual notification so I can't imagine it would be difficult to add an event for scripts to get the same information.

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Timeless Prototype

Humble

Join date: 14 Aug 2004

Posts: 216

12-15-2004 23:06

Does it mean that if a seller is Busy a buyer could attempt to purchase an item from a vendor and get it for free?

You're killing me SL. I'm a very busy (read: always in Busy Mode) scripter.

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Carnildo Greenacre

Flight Engineer

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,044

12-16-2004 00:12

I doubt it. Payments to owned objects appears to be separate from this.

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Timeless Prototype

Humble

Join date: 14 Aug 2004

Posts: 216

12-16-2004 01:40

I meant to do some tests on it last night but got involved with something else.

Has anyone got any testing done with regards to paying objects and busy mode?

When I was scripting the Vendor King and the Gift Voucher system I discovered a distinct lack of ability to check if objects were delivered. Please can we have an event which tells us if an inventory give was successful or not.

This Busy mode thing needs to be detectable perhaps. hmm, it's not already in the agent properties is it?

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Timeless Prototype Humble Join date: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 216	12-15-2004 00:52 Ok, in the release notes it says it will reject objects and payments whilst in Busy mode. What happens if your prime reason for being busy is because you're shopping and don't want to be disturbed? If a Vendor script can't give the avie the object, how can it detect that? How can the Vendor script then refund the avie if it could figure out a failed transaction? I think your solution to another problem has created another problem. I have a bad taste in my mouth about this one, but congrats on the other changes. _____________________ - Timeless llDetectedTouchPos()
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	12-15-2004 02:10 This isn't a change -- inventory offers have always been denied while in busy mode. I've lost several thousands of dollars worth of items this way. _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Timeless Prototype Humble Join date: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 216	12-15-2004 02:18 I'm speechless. Lindens? Comments please? omg. _____________________ - Timeless llDetectedTouchPos()
Kelly Linden Linden Developer Join date: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 896	12-15-2004 08:11 The point of busy mode is to block out interruptions, including potential spam inventory offers. Speaking from experience sometimes there is nothing more annoying than having a notecard or screenshot fill my screen when I'm busy building or scripting. This release adds a new dialog box when you try to use 'pay' while in busy mode to alert you that if what you are paying tries to give you any inventory while you are still in busy mode you will not recieve it. This dialog also gives you the option to leave busy mode before paying and to not have the dialog box show again for the rest of the session. Using 'Buy' to purchase items is not affected by being in busy mode. _____________________ - Kelly Linden
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	12-15-2004 08:43 Both of the new web-based shops could be affected by this. If you buy something on the SL Exchange or Gigas website while your avatar is in Busy mode, SL will automatically block the delivery. _____________________ C U B E Y · T E R R A planes · helicopters · blimps · balloons · skydiving · submarines Available at Abbotts Aerodrome and XstreetSL.com
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	12-15-2004 08:54 From: Kelly Linden The point of busy mode is to block out interruptions, including potential spam inventory offers. Speaking from experience sometimes there is nothing more annoying than having a notecard or screenshot fill my screen when I'm busy building or scripting. This release adds a new dialog box when you try to use 'pay' while in busy mode to alert you that if what you are paying tries to give you any inventory while you are still in busy mode you will not recieve it. This dialog also gives you the option to leave busy mode before paying and to not have the dialog box show again for the rest of the session. Using 'Buy' to purchase items is not affected by being in busy mode. Was this something someone suggested or asked for ? I can't see the logic in it either. _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Apotheus Silverman I write code. Join date: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 416	12-15-2004 09:16 From: Cubey Terra Both of the new web-based shops could be affected by this. If you buy something on the SL Exchange or Gigas website while your avatar is in Busy mode, SL will automatically block the delivery. This is true. We have a popup warning about this situation, but a lot of people don't read popup warnings. I think what we need is a way for LSL scripts to get a return code / status for llGiveInventory. As avatars we get a visual notification so I can't imagine it would be difficult to add an event for scripts to get the same information. _____________________ Apotheus Silverman Shop SL on the web - SLExchange.com Visit Abbotts Aerodrome for gobs of flying fun.
Timeless Prototype Humble Join date: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 216	12-15-2004 23:06 Does it mean that if a seller is Busy a buyer could attempt to purchase an item from a vendor and get it for free? You're killing me SL. I'm a very busy (read: always in Busy Mode) scripter. _____________________ - Timeless llDetectedTouchPos()
Carnildo Greenacre Flight Engineer Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,044	12-16-2004 00:12 I doubt it. Payments to owned objects appears to be separate from this. _____________________ perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'
Timeless Prototype Humble Join date: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 216	12-16-2004 01:40 I meant to do some tests on it last night but got involved with something else. Has anyone got any testing done with regards to paying objects and busy mode? When I was scripting the Vendor King and the Gift Voucher system I discovered a distinct lack of ability to check if objects were delivered. Please can we have an event which tells us if an inventory give was successful or not. This Busy mode thing needs to be detectable perhaps. hmm, it's not already in the agent properties is it? _____________________ - Timeless llDetectedTouchPos()