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Krystal Yifu

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Join date: 21 Feb 2007

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05-22-2007 23:18

While I understand that Linden Labs does not really support 3rd party programs, I would be curious if there is a program out there that allows you to paint on a body live. This is so that i can make sure my skins are seamless despite the textures I might add to an otherwise solid colored skin.

I did see something called Tattoo but it was not compatible with my video card. Erf.

Kat

Kira Zobel

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Join date: 6 Jan 2006

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05-24-2007 11:30

I greatly recommend AvPainter, I believe it's on Slexchange, that's where I got it.

Krystal Yifu

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05-26-2007 08:53

From: Kira Zobel

I greatly recommend AvPainter, I believe it's on Slexchange, that's where I got it.

Well that was a waste of 10USD. Sadly AvPainter installed and then crashed when I tried to run it (Windows did not give me any info on what kind of error it was) and then I tried to uninstall and reinstall it. Upon reinstallation it crashed again.

Got to try something else. I wonder if there is anything Linux compatible.......

Seph DaSilva

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05-26-2007 09:03

AvPainter is great, but it does require you to update quite a bit.
Also, note that while I thought my Direct X was up to date, after installing the other things (.NET and XNA) you need to run a Direct X updater again, or AvPainter will crash. The program is worth the trouble.

From SLX:

Requirements
------------------
AvPainter is built using Microsoft's .NET 2.0 and XNA technology, which is currently only supported on Windows XP SP2.

Before you attempt to install or run AvPainter, make sure you have the following installed.

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en

Microsoft XNA Framework (~2Mb download)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a7da4763-6807-4bd5-8d18-18c60c437f93&DisplayLang=en

After installing the XNA Framework, it's important to update your DirectX installation:

Microsoft DirectX Oct 2006 or later (web update)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en

Krystal Yifu

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Join date: 21 Feb 2007

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05-26-2007 09:07

Yeah. I did follow those directions and installed the latest update. So I dont think that is the problem.

Krystal Yifu

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05-26-2007 09:52

Aw rats...

I have a video card that it doesnt like. That is the same problem I had with Tattoo and why I could not run that. Drat.

There goes my $10USD

Chocolata Oxberger

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Join date: 10 Apr 2006

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05-27-2007 12:31

Krystal, did you try the demo that Pootle has in that ad first before buying the full program? I couldn't get it to run on mine and IM'd Pootle for help and he was very quick is responding and letting me know what the conflict was.

Krystal Yifu

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05-27-2007 17:58

From: Chocolata Oxberger

Krystal, did you try the demo that Pootle has in that ad first before buying the full program? I couldn't get it to run on mine and IM'd Pootle for help and he was very quick is responding and letting me know what the conflict was.

Unfortunately no but Pootle did give me my money back in $L. Thats fine. It just doesnt solve my problem of finding the program that wont have a problem with my vid card.

Kat

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05-28-2007 01:02

In the long run it is better to simply Get a new video card if you have a desktop.

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Krystal Yifu

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05-28-2007 09:34

From: Thunderclap Morgridge

In the long run it is better to simply Get a new video card if you have a desktop.

I have a laptop. NOt an option. >.<

Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

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05-28-2007 10:34

This probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but in my opinion, no 3D painter currently on the market is worth the bother. None of them are very powerful, not even the high end commercial ones, and all of them are riddled with bugs and functionality glitches.

Well, I shouldn't say "no" 3D painter, I guess, since I haven't tried Zbrush 3 yet. The demo video did look promising. I'll get around to playing with it one of these days. It's not exactly a stand alone painter though (lots of other features), so maybe it doesn't quite fit the description of what you were asking about anyway.

What I would recommend is Photoshop CS3 Extended, if you can afford it. It allows you to import 3D models right into Photoshop for texturing. That way, you get the best of both worlds: all of Photoshop's tools (which no 3D painter even comes close to offering), and the 3D model right in front of you on which to see the results. You can't paint directly on the model (yet), unfortunately, but you can paint on the template and see the results on the model almost in real time. The model will update every time you save. So if you want to mess with a tricky seam or something, just save every time you make a minor correction.

Another option, if you're a 3DS Max user, is Ghostpainter. I've never used it myself, but Chip Midnight raves about it. It creates a bridge between Max and Photoshop, so that you can paint your texture in PS, and see the results on the model in Max. My guess is PS CS3E is going to make Ghostpainter obsolete, but if you have an older version of Photoshop and you also have Max, it's a good option.

I hope that was helpful. I know it wasn't quite what you were asking for.

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Krystal Yifu

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05-28-2007 10:45

I agree too. Personally I was a bit taken aback by the simple solution of getting a new machine. I mean, just for the sake of running the one program that I want to run but cant due to incompatibility? Even if I had the money to just up and buy a new computer I dont believe in the concept of "you need a new one" being the default solution to everything.

Either way, CS3 Extended is not on my list as I already have CS and it does what I want in relation to my graphic arts hobby/interest/career. Until there is another solution like AvPainter but more compatible with more video card types, than it will just continue to be a ong process. Hehehe.

From: Chosen Few

......What I would recommend is Photoshop CS3 Extended, if you can afford it. It allows you to import 3D models right into Photoshop for texturing. That way, you get the best of both worlds: all of Photoshop's tools (which no 3D painter even comes close to offering), and the 3D model right in front of you on which to see the results. You can't paint directly on the model (yet), unfortunately, but you can paint on the template and see the results on the model almost in real time. The model will update every time you save. So if you want to mess with a tricky seam or something, just save every time you make a minor correction.
........

I hope that was helpful. I know it wasn't quite what you were asking for.

FD Spark

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Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 4,697

05-28-2007 21:27

I tried av painter demo. I couldn't figure out how to change texture,etc.
Nor does it really show much. Is it because its the demo?

3rd Party 3D Texturizer
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-22-2007 23:18 While I understand that Linden Labs does not really support 3rd party programs, I would be curious if there is a program out there that allows you to paint on a body live. This is so that i can make sure my skins are seamless despite the textures I might add to an otherwise solid colored skin. I did see something called Tattoo but it was not compatible with my video card. Erf. Kat
Kira Zobel Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2006 Posts: 345	05-24-2007 11:30 I greatly recommend AvPainter, I believe it's on Slexchange, that's where I got it.
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-26-2007 08:53 From: Kira Zobel I greatly recommend AvPainter, I believe it's on Slexchange, that's where I got it. Well that was a waste of 10USD. Sadly AvPainter installed and then crashed when I tried to run it (Windows did not give me any info on what kind of error it was) and then I tried to uninstall and reinstall it. Upon reinstallation it crashed again. Got to try something else. I wonder if there is anything Linux compatible.......
Seph DaSilva Registered User Join date: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 27	05-26-2007 09:03 AvPainter is great, but it does require you to update quite a bit. Also, note that while I thought my Direct X was up to date, after installing the other things (.NET and XNA) you need to run a Direct X updater again, or AvPainter will crash. The program is worth the trouble. From SLX: Requirements ------------------ AvPainter is built using Microsoft's .NET 2.0 and XNA technology, which is currently only supported on Windows XP SP2. Before you attempt to install or run AvPainter, make sure you have the following installed. Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en Microsoft XNA Framework (~2Mb download) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a7da4763-6807-4bd5-8d18-18c60c437f93&DisplayLang=en After installing the XNA Framework, it's important to update your DirectX installation: Microsoft DirectX Oct 2006 or later (web update) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-26-2007 09:07 Yeah. I did follow those directions and installed the latest update. So I dont think that is the problem.
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-26-2007 09:52 Aw rats... I have a video card that it doesnt like. That is the same problem I had with Tattoo and why I could not run that. Drat. There goes my $10USD
Chocolata Oxberger Registered User Join date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 51	05-27-2007 12:31 Krystal, did you try the demo that Pootle has in that ad first before buying the full program? I couldn't get it to run on mine and IM'd Pootle for help and he was very quick is responding and letting me know what the conflict was.
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-27-2007 17:58 From: Chocolata Oxberger Krystal, did you try the demo that Pootle has in that ad first before buying the full program? I couldn't get it to run on mine and IM'd Pootle for help and he was very quick is responding and letting me know what the conflict was. Unfortunately no but Pootle did give me my money back in $L. Thats fine. It just doesnt solve my problem of finding the program that wont have a problem with my vid card. Kat
Thunderclap Morgridge The sound heard by all Join date: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 517	05-28-2007 01:02 In the long run it is better to simply Get a new video card if you have a desktop. _____________________ Gimp: n : disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet ie. lameness, limping, gameness, claudication secondlife://Amaro/77/130/39 Come to Thunderclap: the gospel chapel and Thunderburst: Mens clothes and more.
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-28-2007 09:34 From: Thunderclap Morgridge In the long run it is better to simply Get a new video card if you have a desktop. I have a laptop. NOt an option. >.<
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	05-28-2007 10:34 This probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but in my opinion, no 3D painter currently on the market is worth the bother. None of them are very powerful, not even the high end commercial ones, and all of them are riddled with bugs and functionality glitches. Well, I shouldn't say "no" 3D painter, I guess, since I haven't tried Zbrush 3 yet. The demo video did look promising. I'll get around to playing with it one of these days. It's not exactly a stand alone painter though (lots of other features), so maybe it doesn't quite fit the description of what you were asking about anyway. What I would recommend is Photoshop CS3 Extended, if you can afford it. It allows you to import 3D models right into Photoshop for texturing. That way, you get the best of both worlds: all of Photoshop's tools (which no 3D painter even comes close to offering), and the 3D model right in front of you on which to see the results. You can't paint directly on the model (yet), unfortunately, but you can paint on the template and see the results on the model almost in real time. The model will update every time you save. So if you want to mess with a tricky seam or something, just save every time you make a minor correction. Another option, if you're a 3DS Max user, is Ghostpainter. I've never used it myself, but Chip Midnight raves about it. It creates a bridge between Max and Photoshop, so that you can paint your texture in PS, and see the results on the model in Max. My guess is PS CS3E is going to make Ghostpainter obsolete, but if you have an older version of Photoshop and you also have Max, it's a good option. I hope that was helpful. I know it wasn't quite what you were asking for. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Krystal Yifu Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 34	05-28-2007 10:45 I agree too. Personally I was a bit taken aback by the simple solution of getting a new machine. I mean, just for the sake of running the one program that I want to run but cant due to incompatibility? Even if I had the money to just up and buy a new computer I dont believe in the concept of "you need a new one" being the default solution to everything. Either way, CS3 Extended is not on my list as I already have CS and it does what I want in relation to my graphic arts hobby/interest/career. Until there is another solution like AvPainter but more compatible with more video card types, than it will just continue to be a ong process. Hehehe. From: Chosen Few ......What I would recommend is Photoshop CS3 Extended, if you can afford it. It allows you to import 3D models right into Photoshop for texturing. That way, you get the best of both worlds: all of Photoshop's tools (which no 3D painter even comes close to offering), and the 3D model right in front of you on which to see the results. You can't paint directly on the model (yet), unfortunately, but you can paint on the template and see the results on the model almost in real time. The model will update every time you save. So if you want to mess with a tricky seam or something, just save every time you make a minor correction. ........ I hope that was helpful. I know it wasn't quite what you were asking for.
FD Spark Prim & Texture Doodler Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4,697	05-28-2007 21:27 I tried av painter demo. I couldn't figure out how to change texture,etc. Nor does it really show much. Is it because its the demo?

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