Some serious questions to Briana :-(

I must say that I am still in state of awe, because this appears so completely surreal and uncomprehensible to me. Yes, I must say it leave me speachless.

Because I honestly don't understand it, I think I simply ask Briana to explain to me and to all the people doing business in Galleria City or Galleria Aqua. There are some question now that I think need an adequate answer:

1. Why did you use your sim administration powers to dump me from Galleria City project and simulator?

2. What did I do that would justify such an action? I would greatly appreciate if you could be specific here.

3. What gave you the right to remove business partner to one handedly assume 100% control of the business?

Well, I would not have posted here if this would have been all questions. I would really have liked to avoid public discussion.

Unfortunately, there are some further questions that even more make this an issue of public interest:

4. Why have you banned me from the Galleria Aqua and Galleria City retailer groups and malls?

5. Why have you destroyed my shop outlets and sent them in pieces to my inventory?

6. Why have you neg rated me?

7. Which retailer will you ban and neg rate next? And for what reason?

These are some important questions. They go beyond scope of personal situation between two people, although I am even not aware of anything negative that I did to Briana. Anyway, the Galleria is project many people are involved in, more than 40 people who support the mall with money, time and the products they offer.

Please, whoever post on this thread, don't post personal attack or insults. I hope this can stay clean thread, that it can focus on situation at hand and not force administrator to have to remove it as flame thread.

Briana, I have no secrets. I even don't mind you quote from our conversations. If you do so I only ask the same right.

Now I look forward to answers. I hope Briana has good answers that help clear confusion.

7. Which retailer will you ban and neg rate next? And for what reason?

Me, no reason.

I dont know anything about all this. It is not my place to post on this thread. I dont wish to attack or defend anyone without knowledge of the circumstances. Please forgive me for butting into this thread.

*edited to retract and apologize.

- Our disagreements had reached a point where I could no longer be there at the same time you were there. I asked you for the sake of our friendship to remove yourself but instead you chose to attack me.

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2. What did I do that would justify such an action? I would greatly appreciate if you could be specific here.

- (1) Your need for your own personal retail exposure I felt compromised the project since it was more important for you to have a prime retail location that it was for the retailers who would be paying rent.

- (2) You divided your interest with another to setup a 2nd sim and wanted it connect to G.C.. This was not my wish, after I informed as to my reasons you continued to insist and discount my concerns or even recognize the conflict of interest.

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3. What gave you the right to remove business partner to one handedly assume 100% control of the business?

- (1) You held 25% of this partnership, 1 vote; I held 75% of this partnership, 3 votes.

- (2) When you came to about G.C., I told you I had all the funding neccessary - remember? You became sad - I told you I think about it and after 24hours I believed that working together we would have synergy. Your investment was superfluous and accepted by as a friend who wanted a friend to share something really cool.
- Your lack of recognizing that I helped you and not the other way around is disturbing. I returned your investment with 20% interest for your (5 day involvement) initially, and you sent it back. The final refund was sent back to you via Paypal.

From: someone

Well, I would not have posted here if this would have been all questions. I would really have liked to avoid public discussion.

Unfortunately, there are some further questions that even more make this an issue of public interest:

4. Why have you banned me from the Galleria Aqua and Galleria City retailer groups and malls?

- I banned you after you referred to me as stupid, and taking into consideration your prior threats and recent insults I figured you no longer needed this "stupid persons" poorly operated Aqua Galleria or Galleria City sim.

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5. Why have you destroyed my shop outlets and sent them in pieces to my inventory?

- Please hold the drama: I RETURNED THEM, not deleted, not destroyed.

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6. Why have you neg rated me?

- The neg rating was earned after you once again, insulted me via IM, and when I said to you "this is the 2nd time you have chosen to insult me", you replied "Im glad you feel insulted" (or something to that effect). So I neg-rated you. I did not triple neg rate you.

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7. Which retailer will you ban and neg rate next? And for what reason?

- This question is just meant to create fear and uncertainty.

From: someone

These are some important questions. They go beyond scope of personal situation between two people, although I am even not aware of anything negative that I did to Briana. Anyway, the Galleria is project many people are involved in, more than 40 people who support the mall with money, time and the products they offer.

Please, whoever post on this thread, don't post personal attack or insults. I hope this can stay clean thread, that it can focus on situation at hand and not force administrator to have to remove it as flame thread.

Briana, I have no secrets. I even don't mind you quote from our conversations. If you do so I only ask the same right.

Now I look forward to answers. I hope Briana has good answers that help clear confusion.

Finally..

Anshe, your business mind is really good. However, for me, it is detrimental to relationships.

#1 Your idea to auction the G.C. store builds LUNA STYLE, I found offensive to maintaining personal friendships with the retailers. I felt it is wrong for me to charge people i have known so long such high prices as Luna, or even allow for a system that could make that happen.
- I posed a question to you: What if they pay a high price, and dontmake their money back? Your response was "they should buy a cheaper spot". Well, after losing one friend from Aqua who informed me that Icharged too much, especially in light of our friendship, it was somewhat of a wakeup call that I had to temper business with a the emotion of personal friendships.

#2 - You forever justified your right to have a giant build inthe G.C. telehub square that took of 4 stores. After removing this, you then justified your right to occupy 1 of 4 telehub locations.
- As a retailer and a mall owner, I feel the Mall Owner should not maintain a retail presence greater than the retailers. The retailers pay premium rent so that they can have the spotlight, not so that they can feel as though they are just a plate garnish to the mall owners premier prime location display.
- For you, your own retail success is more important than those who would pay you rent.
- For me, it is very important that the retailers feel the mall is their own, and that Briana Dawson's items are not taking the best locations and that the retailers themselves have the very very best locations possible. It is my Galleria City, and I will squeeze my own retail items in after the retailers are cared for first.

#3 - Your ideas were absolutely.... astonishingly invasive.
- No one wants to add a script to every prim they create so that we can then track it and delete it at will. This is what you wanted.
- I did not agree with your extensive tracking scripts for the vendors we were to place throughout the city mall. I felt the data you were collecting was invasive and I would not have final control over this data but you; so it could be sold as marketing information - something you mentioned many times.
- Adam Zaius does the exact same thing, however you berated his vendor system - while at the same time adjusting yours to be more like it. This is disturbing. I chose to go with Adam because he exhibits a higher level of moral integrity than you and more importantly, he is not greedy.

#4 - After our several repeated disagreements, I informed you onmore than one occassion that I felt this business aspect had severly hurt our frienship and that I often found myself crying when I was at G.C. because you were so insistent on altering the vision I had - which predated your asking to invest and my accepting your offer.
- We had not spoken for over 4 days, and whenever you came to G.C. i went afk and then logged. This was not a healthy relationship.

#5 - If you knew how to invest in someone elses dream without feeling the need to make your own impression, then we could have worked together smoothly.
- You were told that G.C. was my dream, and we agreed that I had final creative say, however you never acted this way. And you repeatedly acted as if I had never created a mall before - this was also very stunning.

#6 - Your conflict of interest by way of your tendril like investments in many other projects which you then wanted to piggy back onto Galleria City was yet again disturbing. When I asked you about how you would make decisions between what was good for Galleria City versus what was good for your 2nd island project with a 3rd person that you wanted to connect to the G.C. sim your response to me was that I was being silly in my concerns.

- Telling someone their concerns are silly is not the way to handle things in business. Addressing my concerns and acknowleding the possible conflict of interest would have told me that you were not simply thinking of your own profit.

And once again.. . Your taking this issue public the first time was the strongest factor in my finally deciding to terminate our relationship. Business between individuals should have remained as such. Not a public affair.

- I returned your unused investment with a 20% bonus for your time. You instead chose to post a emotionally manipulative message.

And FINALLY

Anshe, your investment was accepted out of frienship, not need. Your initial request was that I give you %50 of the earnings.
- 50% for what? 25% for what?

I built Aqua Galleia alone (special thanks to Maxx Monde's beautiful structure).

I bring 40+ retailers to Galleria City, without your help. How do you say you have been used, or that I have ditched you once I had a sign of future success when all i am doing is moving my business?

You have contributed nothing but emotional grief to the detriment of our personal friendship.

You tried to manipulate me with your declarations of love for me and such.

We are through.

If anyone wishes to read the "termination of partnership" note card I sent Anshe, I will be glad to hand it out.

Im sorry this was made public. And i do believe I made the proper decsion. ANd I hope i answered your questions.

Briana Dawson

May I ask why my deciding not to sell in the galleria anymore resulted in a negative rating?

Surely, as the owner, who runs Galleria City this is not the way to foster good relationships with the SL community?

I get the impression you feel Galleria City has a devine right to be the 'only' retailer?

Edited to add afterthoughts.

Damien.. I will tell you why I negged rated your behavior.

I was hurt by your taking sides in an issue that did not concern you and in which only had half the story. I really felt that we were friends and that as friends you would at least have asked my side of the issue.

As a friend Damien... this is what I did. Aqua Galleria had been reduced to 96 prims. Instead of asking some retailes to remove excessive decoration I instead removed my prim jewlery and statues.

You had 58 prims in decorative display accenting which you were never charged for. And when I could no longer at retailers because of the lack of prims. I did not ask you to ogive up your 58 prims, nor did I ask anyone else. I bit this bullet myself.

Therefore when you removed your items without notice, posted your supportive message of Anshe (yes you did keep it nameless, but you admitted to me it was for her), and then for so reason declined to come to Galleria City after being there the first day of construction and informing me that you would be there regardless of a 3rd persons note card falsely accusing me of theft, I could only be hurt.

I don't understand how you could as a friend make this decision. So I was left with the obvious and very sad but real fact, that you are not my friend as friends do not judge one another based on half a story. Especially after knowing one another as long as we have, 8 months?

I tried to talk to you about this, but you only could give me silence and a parting sentence of "i dont hate you".

These past few days have been extremely miserable for me. The culmination of this sadness coming last night when I chose to remove the ratings and delete cards of those people who i thought were my friends but because of the 2 recent controversies, had chosen to leave Aqua, not come to G.C. and not talk to me about it and instead believe half stories.

This is why I neg rated your behavior.

If you had chosen to talk to me and be upfront with me I would not have made this decision. But having to accept a loss of a friend without a rhyme or reason from that friend... was painful. I am sorry. I do not mask my pain as well as others. But I also choose to never post it. And one thing I have never done in SL, is report to the forums who negged me.

Briana Dawson

Friends speak when they have problems. They dont act surreptitiously.
And they dont throw away 8 months of a relationship.

So your negging as I mentioned was for your behavior.

And why are you talking to me in the forums, publicly like this, but yet ignored my inworld pleas to you?

Sigh, friends dont make bypass opportunities for resolve problems in private just so they can make a public spectacle of the other.

If you wish to speak to me inworld. I will gladly speak with you.

Briana Dawson

Why are you doing this to me Damien

Trouble with Briana? No, it can't be.

My only trouble with Briana is when I hug her, all those tiny spiky earrings poke me in my chin. Dingdang little elfin multipiercing having girlie.

*hugs Briana*
see? ow.

*end hijack.

Where did I attack you? When? I never attacked you.



Before we started project I asked you where my base store should be located in Galleria City. You said "Of course at the mall level".

When mall was being built, I placed my store at the outer edge of the mall, far from telehub. I did so only for testing and see how it looks.

The next day YOU had moved it right next to telehub. I was very surprised.

Then one day later, when you had started setting up shop grid you became unhappy with your OWN placement of my store.

You asked me to move my store further away, so I complied and I moved it far away, outside the main mall. We also agreed I would use a smaller sized outlet near telehub. So I marked one store outlet for my use.

One day later that store outlet was moved 10m from telehub. I did not say a word.

Later I see there is one smaller outlet at telehub marked for rent at 750 L$ a week. So I ask you if I can use that 5x5x10m outlet near telehub instead of the other 10x10x10m outlet. You agree and tell me it is no problem.

I spend two hours setup outlet, then you come, see it and start drama about the same thing that you just had agreed on. I suggest to you that I pay rent like every other retailer. I even reduce size of outlet again, put up some space on telehub side for rent.

I never used any space in mall that you did not agree to. You shoved me back and forth several times and I let it happen.




Mae Best is planning to setup a sim for builders. She is friend of mine, so I came to you and suggested to connect sims because it would be mutually beneficial. All I did was bring forward some suggestions. I did not act in any way.

You did not want to connect because you were afraid of "competition" in "your" grid.

At the same time that you disallowed me to follow such plans, you told me about sims of your own that YOU were planning to connect to Galleria City. So effectively in this partnership you reserved the right for yourself to buy and add as many sims and side projects to GC, while not granting me such right.

Needless to mention I still oblieged to your decision and even removed myself from Mae Best's project to address your concerns of "conflict of interest".



So if I hold 75% of Microsoft and you hold 25% I can just kick you out giving you whatever you once contributed as founding money?

How about fact that I contributed 50% of sim money, you only 25% and an anoymous contributer donated 25%?



This is a lie. The truth is that I had idea of mall built around telehub and contacted you. At that time you did not have money to buy sim. Linden can confirm that the setup of the sim was delayed because everybody was waiting for my money that I sent you via PayPal arrive on your normal bank account.

Only after sim was setup you got money. Then, and after seeing positive response of retailers and high demand for stores you dumped me because you could.



How did you help me?



I sent you 490 US$ and paid something like 30 British pounds for domain registration fees. You sent me back 540 US$. But this is not real issue. I also spent much longer time on website, database, shop management system and so on, dating back more than one month.

What if I now send you the 245 US$ that you invested, plus 30% for your time and claim ownership of Galleria City? Or 100% bonus? Would you like that? Would you do this even if I paid you double?




It is true I told you in private conversation that I think what you did was stupid. This was after you had called me much worse things.

People should take note that telling Briana that something she did and that you think was "stupid" will get you banned from her mall.

Disagree with Briana and if she can, she will shoot you in your head.



You returned them unlinked and in pieces. You used your power, which is based on the trust of the retailer community and shoppers, to destroy my retail opportunity in most frequented mall because I had told you in private conversation that something you did was "stupid".

Of course you did not care to ask the retailers of Galleria Aqua. You are sole dictator. Is that running mall in "best interest of retailers"?




I never said that. I think I have that conversation on my computer. If you want I can post.



No, it is a very valid concern for the retailer community now.




I suggested that it could be fair to auction off best shops near telehub. It is what Linden is doing with land. Personally I think it is better than using crowny system. I also suggested use money that is higher than standard store rent for events and contests, or even use it to lower rent for newbie designer.

This was just one suggestion that I raised once.

You said you did not like it.

So what exactly did I do wrong? I can not even voice suggestion?



My tea house is 2 stores. You initially moved it there. When you asked me I moved it away. I never ever argued for having a giant build, or any non-standard build at the central mall area. This is something you are making up now.



Being a retailer also, I think I should have chance to rent space as any other retailer. However, even though I did not agree with you, I followed your request to move to other spot. As I wrote above, I moved to small mini outlet near telehub after I had asked you and you had agreed I could use if I give up medium sized outlet that you had assigned me 10m from telehub.



I never asked for that.



I offered to pay rent myself.



I have the feeling you construct some excuse.



Wow! Now I am speechless!

So you are saying I wanted to collect data and sell as marketing information?

I never, ever suggested something like this. This is insane.

However, when Adam demoed his system I warned you of the possibility that somebody who is not part of the mall could use information in negative way.



You chose to go with Adam because you wanted to exclude me from important system in the mall so you can satisfy your own greed without partner. You wanted total control. This was one more step in you assuming total and sole control of Galleria City project in your strive for power and domination.



I see. Now you even blame ME for YOU not talking to me.



Interesting. If you want partnership with Briana you are not allowed to make own impression.

Whenever we disagreed I complied.

So you should say "without feeling the need to ever make a suggestion"



Tell me one single ocasion where I acted without your prior consent.

But you acted as if I would not exist.



I never piggy backed any project on GC.



I see. So the reason for breaking business agreement was that I asked for help with my bad feelings after you broke the business agreement?

Now listen. I think the truth is: Last monday you dumped me. Then you temporarily undid your action because many people were upset and you worried about your public image. Now one week later you just completed what you had temporarily postponed.



Now this is one question you must have asked yourself BEFORE you agreed to business partnership.

In any case I still remember how we had to wait for the money I sent you via PayPal arrive at your bank account before Linden could charge you and setup the sim. Without my investment there would be no Galleria City.

The truth is, if you would have declined I may have done Galleria City project on my own or with other partner. There are more malls in SL. I could have asked somebody else.

You wanted to be first, so you accepted my money, entered partnership while you need me, then kick me out.



So you own the retailers?



I ignore such and other personal comments that are neither true nor contribute to the topic at hand. I am not going to return in kind.

(Edited to correct quote tags)

Well, you had the idea of a mall with a telehub and brought it to me????!!!

Well, I think that by stating this you really end all need for further discussion.

My dream of Aqua Galleria with its own telehub is well known by several people Anshe.

by CLAIMING that YOU GAVE ME THE IDEA of GALLERIA CITY you invalidate the rest of your post and I will not dignify this thread with any further comments.

Thank you and have a good SL life. Im sure your mall will do as good as you wish.

Briana Dawson

*heats a bag of popcorn in the microwave*

I so adore a cat-fight...

- Ace

So Anshe, you paid 50% of the real up front cash for the sim? I think that makes you a 50% owner and LL should see that and honor it. You should have 1/2 control of the sim for your use or you should be able to sell it. Either way it seems that Briana has scammed yet another person in her quest to be the SL Queen of Greed. You go Briana, you're right, no one can catch you.

This thread is deleted in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Thats just what we need. LL to cover up more forums.

What I wrote is absolutely true things. I came to you, not you came to me. Before I asked you there was no Galleria City project.

Now I don't claim that you did not think of or dream of telehub mall before. Maybe you did, probably everybody dreams of custom island sometimes. I don't know. But I came to you and wanted do it, asking you if you want join the idea. I was willing to invest, to make it real.

Well, this is just minor detail that you try to make important now. I think this only give weight to the rest of my post you did not find answer to. What I posted is true, you know this.

But we can let this forum discussion rest at this point. We made our statements and people may judge themselves which version of story is more trustworthy. Adding much more probably won't change much.

*sigh*
Other than the why is this in this forum... there are alot of things wrong with this. (First you can't sell land off from the private sims)

A post about this last time was already deleted due to its content.

BOTH sides should have kept it to themselves. There are always 2 sides to the story..and then the truth.

And as someone present for 1 of the said conversations there was insistance and debate on BOTH sides, well this kind of thing happens ..you then discuss it and give both your suggestions, the overall problem being who has the most say in it.

But to say that someone did not have the resources to get a sim..who already owns most of one for the original mall they had, and who has payed back the investment made by the second party. Well wouldn't that mean they had the money to do so?? Maybe I am wrong there.. but now won't they have to pay for it by themselves? would someone not able to afford it put themselves it that position?

The Idea to make a mall at a telethub and put it at 200+ meters in the air...Well the mall with a telehub was thought of about after avalon was created, by someone who has left SL now unfortunetly.(Wish I had been able to get a sim boy this is a good idea)
But I think the people with stores at the hubs should be credited for that, and if i remember correctly there have been/are other malls as close to the telehub as they possibly can be. If the could have built on/over the telehub i am sure they would have.

Anyways, don't mind me just the ramblings of a guy who is tried of seeing the community tearing itself apart.

Excellent!

Well, not deleted, but closed. This is a personal discussion, asked and answered.