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Nimue Galatea

я говорю по русски ;)

Join date: 24 May 2004

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05-18-2005 13:47

This may be one of the silly posts out there, but I just wanna share my opinion...
I have never seen a designer in SL use cubic zirconia, for example, instead of diamonds.
I kind of believe in enlightening people about first life through Second life, and I see this as a good opportunity to encourage ppl to learn more about diamonds and where they come from. They're basically blood money. People who starve mine them. On the other hand, cubic z. is a wonderful, inexpensive alternative, with characteristics of its own, yet it looks pretty much like a diamond! Just wanted to throw this out there

If no one uses this idea, I will. Thnx for reading.

Chosen Few

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05-18-2005 16:39

Ethics questions aside, since you chose to put this in the texture forum how exactly does one paint a picture of a cubic zirconia instead of a picture of a diamond?

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Nimue Galatea

я говорю по русски ;)

Join date: 24 May 2004

Posts: 517

05-18-2005 19:18

lol that's a good question now, isn't it. How about just naming it "cubic zirconia" instead of diamonds.

Chosen Few

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05-18-2005 22:03

That's what I figured you'd say, but in that case, why talk about it in the texture forum? Isn't this a more genral, maybe cultural, issue than a texturing issue?

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Nimue Galatea

я говорю по русски ;)

Join date: 24 May 2004

Posts: 517

05-19-2005 11:22

From: Chosen Few

That's what I figured you'd say, but in that case, why talk about it in the texture forum? Isn't this a more genral, maybe cultural, issue than a texturing issue?

I don't know...People make mistakes, you know

Lo Jacobs

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Join date: 28 May 2004

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05-19-2005 11:23

From: Nimue Galatea

I don't know...People make mistakes, you know

lol

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Enabran Templar

Capitalist Pig

Join date: 26 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,506

05-19-2005 12:18

Well, while we're on the subject of why diamonds suck, let's also mention:

- Their price is artificially inflated by DeBeers, the only major diamond concern on earth
- The place of the diamond as an engagement necessity was artificially inspired by DeBeers' marketing
- Diamonds don't hold their value and are useless as investments
- Diamonds can now be created in a laboratory and are chemically and physically identical to their mine-dwelling counterparts, but at a fraction of the cost
- You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?!

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Andi Fitzsimmons

D'ni Refugee

Join date: 27 May 2004

Posts: 36

And...

05-19-2005 12:23

...you can have the cremated remains of a loved one turned into a diamond as a lasting reminder.

Not my cup of tea but there you go, the miracle of science.

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Lo Jacobs

Awesome Possum

Join date: 28 May 2004

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05-19-2005 12:24

From: Andi Fitzsimmons

...you can have the cremated remains of a loved one turned into a diamond as a lasting reminder.

Not my cup of tea but there you go, the miracle of science.

Oh weeeird!

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

05-19-2005 12:54

From: Enabran Templar

Well, while we're on the subject of why diamonds suck, let's also mention:

- Their price is artificially inflated by DeBeers, the only major diamond concern on earth
- The place of the diamond as an engagement necessity was artificially inspired by DeBeers' marketing
- Diamonds don't hold their value and are useless as investments
- Diamonds can now be created in a laboratory and are chemically and physically identical to their mine-dwelling counterparts, but at a fraction of the cost
- You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?!

All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger

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ZsuZsanna Raven

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Join date: 19 Dec 2004

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05-19-2005 12:57

From: Chip Midnight

All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger

I had a pet rock once...but it had rabies and bit my friend so I had to have it put to sleep...poor rock

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Red Mars

What?

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05-19-2005 12:59

From: Chip Midnight

You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner.

I'm pretty sure it's something genetic.

"OOOoooOoOO a DIAMOND! Sparkly!"

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Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

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05-19-2005 13:16

From: Enabran Templar

You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?!

Hey, guess what you're made out of.

Okay, you're mostly water, but what there is of you besides water is mostly carbon.

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Rose Karuna

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Join date: 5 Jun 2004

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05-19-2005 14:03

From: Chip Midnight

All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger

Too Funny - I felt exactly this way but in reverse. My husband, with love and the best of intentions, wanted to get me an expensive diamond engagement ring. I've never been fond of diamonds for a number of reasons, many mentioned already. He couldn't believe it when I said I would rather spend the money on a house or a great trip. In the end, my Montana Sapphire is prettier than most diamonds, fun to watch because it changes color with the weather and cost about 1/4 as much as he would have spent on a diamond.

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Enabran Templar

Capitalist Pig

Join date: 26 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,506

05-19-2005 15:25

From: Chosen Few

Hey, guess what you're made out of.

Okay, you're mostly water, but what there is of you besides water is mostly carbon.

Yes, that's exactly my point. Carbon is a wildly common element. They want me to spend two months salary on a lump of carbon.

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

05-19-2005 16:02

From: Rose Karuna

Too Funny - I felt exactly this way but in reverse. My husband, with love and the best of intentions, wanted to get me an expensive diamond engagement ring. I've never been fond of diamonds for a number of reasons, many mentioned already. He couldn't believe it when I said I would rather spend the money on a house or a great trip. In the end, my Montana Sapphire is prettier than most diamonds, fun to watch because it changes color with the weather and cost about 1/4 as much as he would have spent on a diamond.

It's amazing what social conditioning will do to a person, hehe. I'm glad you talked him out of it. The world needs more women like you Rose!

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Foxy Petunia

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Join date: 14 Feb 2005

Posts: 6

Diamnonds or CZ

05-23-2005 10:48

I would like to know where to find these textures at to be able to use them in design.Interested also in the gold textures, if anyone knows ,please IM me in the game.Either diamonds or CZ can be of good quality if found at the right place for the right price.no difference to me, actually I prefer sapphires.

Tatiana Stravinsky

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Join date: 14 Sep 2004

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05-23-2005 19:15

I'm with you, Rose! I'd be honored to wear a beautiful saphire, or emerald, or heck - a bread twisty over a diamond, any day, hands down. Especially if it came with love from someone who genuinely cherished me and meant it as a symbol of all that an engagement ring should hold.

As for the diamonds in our smaller world - no matter what you call it if it twinkles... they will buy.

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Nimue Galatea я говорю по русски ;) Join date: 24 May 2004 Posts: 517	05-18-2005 13:47 This may be one of the silly posts out there, but I just wanna share my opinion... I have never seen a designer in SL use cubic zirconia, for example, instead of diamonds. I kind of believe in enlightening people about first life through Second life, and I see this as a good opportunity to encourage ppl to learn more about diamonds and where they come from. They're basically blood money. People who starve mine them. On the other hand, cubic z. is a wonderful, inexpensive alternative, with characteristics of its own, yet it looks pretty much like a diamond! Just wanted to throw this out there If no one uses this idea, I will. Thnx for reading.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	05-18-2005 16:39 Ethics questions aside, since you chose to put this in the texture forum how exactly does one paint a picture of a cubic zirconia instead of a picture of a diamond? _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Nimue Galatea я говорю по русски ;) Join date: 24 May 2004 Posts: 517	05-18-2005 19:18 lol that's a good question now, isn't it. How about just naming it "cubic zirconia" instead of diamonds.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	05-18-2005 22:03 That's what I figured you'd say, but in that case, why talk about it in the texture forum? Isn't this a more genral, maybe cultural, issue than a texturing issue? _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Nimue Galatea я говорю по русски ;) Join date: 24 May 2004 Posts: 517	05-19-2005 11:22 From: Chosen Few That's what I figured you'd say, but in that case, why talk about it in the texture forum? Isn't this a more genral, maybe cultural, issue than a texturing issue? I don't know...People make mistakes, you know
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	05-19-2005 11:23 From: Nimue Galatea I don't know...People make mistakes, you know lol _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	05-19-2005 12:18 Well, while we're on the subject of why diamonds suck, let's also mention: - Their price is artificially inflated by DeBeers, the only major diamond concern on earth - The place of the diamond as an engagement necessity was artificially inspired by DeBeers' marketing - Diamonds don't hold their value and are useless as investments - Diamonds can now be created in a laboratory and are chemically and physically identical to their mine-dwelling counterparts, but at a fraction of the cost - You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?! _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Andi Fitzsimmons D'ni Refugee Join date: 27 May 2004 Posts: 36	And... 05-19-2005 12:23 ...you can have the cremated remains of a loved one turned into a diamond as a lasting reminder. Not my cup of tea but there you go, the miracle of science. _____________________ Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	05-19-2005 12:24 From: Andi Fitzsimmons ...you can have the cremated remains of a loved one turned into a diamond as a lasting reminder. Not my cup of tea but there you go, the miracle of science. Oh weeeird! _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	05-19-2005 12:54 From: Enabran Templar Well, while we're on the subject of why diamonds suck, let's also mention: - Their price is artificially inflated by DeBeers, the only major diamond concern on earth - The place of the diamond as an engagement necessity was artificially inspired by DeBeers' marketing - Diamonds don't hold their value and are useless as investments - Diamonds can now be created in a laboratory and are chemically and physically identical to their mine-dwelling counterparts, but at a fraction of the cost - You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?! All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
ZsuZsanna Raven ~:+: Supah Kitteh :+:~ Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,361	05-19-2005 12:57 From: Chip Midnight All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger I had a pet rock once...but it had rabies and bit my friend so I had to have it put to sleep...poor rock _____________________ ~Mewz!~
Red Mars What? Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 469	05-19-2005 12:59 From: Chip Midnight You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. I'm pretty sure it's something genetic. "OOOoooOoOO a DIAMOND! Sparkly!" _____________________
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	05-19-2005 13:16 From: Enabran Templar You're telling me I'm supposed to be impressed by carbon? Carbon?! Hey, guess what you're made out of. Okay, you're mostly water, but what there is of you besides water is mostly carbon. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	05-19-2005 14:03 From: Chip Midnight All true, and I wish more people knew these things. If I ever get married, my future wife will have to accept that there's no way in hell she's getting a diamond ring. I've never understood that. You'd think women would view any guy who'd spend half a year's salary on a piece of rock as mentally unsound and not a good choice as a partner. People thought pet rocks were silly, yet most women are wearing one on their finger Too Funny - I felt exactly this way but in reverse. My husband, with love and the best of intentions, wanted to get me an expensive diamond engagement ring. I've never been fond of diamonds for a number of reasons, many mentioned already. He couldn't believe it when I said I would rather spend the money on a house or a great trip. In the end, my Montana Sapphire is prettier than most diamonds, fun to watch because it changes color with the weather and cost about 1/4 as much as he would have spent on a diamond. . _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	05-19-2005 15:25 From: Chosen Few Hey, guess what you're made out of. Okay, you're mostly water, but what there is of you besides water is mostly carbon. Yes, that's exactly my point. Carbon is a wildly common element. They want me to spend two months salary on a lump of carbon. _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	05-19-2005 16:02 From: Rose Karuna Too Funny - I felt exactly this way but in reverse. My husband, with love and the best of intentions, wanted to get me an expensive diamond engagement ring. I've never been fond of diamonds for a number of reasons, many mentioned already. He couldn't believe it when I said I would rather spend the money on a house or a great trip. In the end, my Montana Sapphire is prettier than most diamonds, fun to watch because it changes color with the weather and cost about 1/4 as much as he would have spent on a diamond. It's amazing what social conditioning will do to a person, hehe. I'm glad you talked him out of it. The world needs more women like you Rose! _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Foxy Petunia Registered User Join date: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 6	Diamnonds or CZ 05-23-2005 10:48 I would like to know where to find these textures at to be able to use them in design.Interested also in the gold textures, if anyone knows ,please IM me in the game.Either diamonds or CZ can be of good quality if found at the right place for the right price.no difference to me, actually I prefer sapphires.
Tatiana Stravinsky Registered User Join date: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 14	05-23-2005 19:15 I'm with you, Rose! I'd be honored to wear a beautiful saphire, or emerald, or heck - a bread twisty over a diamond, any day, hands down. Especially if it came with love from someone who genuinely cherished me and meant it as a symbol of all that an engagement ring should hold. As for the diamonds in our smaller world - no matter what you call it if it twinkles... they will buy.