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mcgeeb Gupte

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03-07-2006 21:02

Is there any auto-save in Photoshop?? I just lost my PSP file of 5 hours worth. Thankfully I still do have the bmp file to work with. Thanks.

Ben Bacon

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Join date: 14 Jul 2005

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03-08-2006 05:57

From: mcgeeb Gupte

Is there any auto-save in Photoshop?? I just lost my PSP file of 5 hours worth. Thankfully I still do have the bmp file to work with. Thanks.

Ouch!

I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save.

I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete:
Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement.

Every time you lean back to ponder - every time you stand up to run off to the bathroom - every time the doorbell or phone rings - hit save as you push off.

Good luck!

mcgeeb Gupte

Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,---

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

Posts: 1,152

03-08-2006 06:20

From: Ben Bacon

Ouch!

I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save.

I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete:
Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement.

Every time you lean back to ponder - every time you stand up to run off to the bathroom - every time the doorbell or phone rings - hit save as you push off.

Good luck!

Well thanks for the help, and it wasn't as bad as I first thought.

Rhynalae Eldrich

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Join date: 14 Feb 2006

Posts: 61

03-08-2006 06:20

From: Ben Bacon

Ouch!

I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save.

I'm not aware of one either, unless there's one in the CS version. I'm using 7.0.1.

Wish there was better news to share...

From: someone

I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete: Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement.

I don't even think anymore, I just do it automatically. These sorts of experiences are fast teachers.

(But I had lots of practice from using MS Word...

It seems to crash if you just look at it cross-ways.)

Robin Sojourner

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03-08-2006 09:15

Afraid that there isn't one in CS or CS2, either.

But, ummmm, I'm a little confused. You said that you lost your PSP file? Is that the format for Paintshop Pro? Or is it just a typo? Because I don't know if PSP has an auto-save or not. (The format for PS is .psd.)

I've found that it's worth it to save incremental backups, too, just in case. I do it whenever I think of it, just in case I need to retreat to a step that's farther back than the History palette allows. You can do the same thing with Snapshots, but they vanish when you close the document; so they won't help if the cat sits on the switch for the Power Strip.

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mcgeeb Gupte

Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,---

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

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03-08-2006 14:01

From: Robin Sojourner

Afraid that there isn't one in CS or CS2, either.

But, ummmm, I'm a little confused. You said that you lost your PSP file? Is that the format for Paintshop Pro? Or is it just a typo? Because I don't know if PSP has an auto-save or not. (The format for PS is .psd.)

I've found that it's worth it to save incremental backups, too, just in case. I do it whenever I think of it, just in case I need to retreat to a step that's farther back than the History palette allows. You can do the same thing with Snapshots, but they vanish when you close the document; so they won't help if the cat sits on the switch for the Power Strip.

Oops I meant psd. I'm going to need a bigger hard drive with all of these incremental backups

Fenrir Reitveld

Crazy? Don't mind if I do

Join date: 20 Apr 2005

Posts: 459

03-10-2006 12:54

I keep my history states set to like 60 or so. Sure, it means PS eats RAM, but I like being able to go back if I need to. Go WAY back... I also try to remember to let up on the brush I am using every once and a while, so I don't have a whole big painted area saved as a single history state...

Other than that, I hit CTRL-S a lot.

Robin Sojourner

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Posts: 1,080

03-10-2006 13:59

mcgeeb, you don't have to have a lot of incremental backups, unless you want them. Generally, I just toggle between A and B (for instance, NewShirt A.psd and NewShirt B.psd.) I look at the top of the window, to see which one I'm using, and Save As... the other one.

It's only when I'm doing something I'm not sure of that I'll make a whole new one, and I generally do that by clicking the "Create New Document from Current State" button at the bottom left of the History palette. Then I save that as, for instance, "NewShirt Collar 1.psd" so that I know what bit I was experimenting with, close that document, and go back to work on the A or B.

When I have the thing the way I want it, and am ready to move on to the next project, I'll save a copy as Fini (NewShirt Fini.psd) so that I know that's the actual finished image. At that point, depending, I might blow away the incremental copies, or I might put them on a CD. No point allowing them to clutter up the hard drive, though. Vast empty spaces on the hard drive REALLY improve PS performance, in my experience.

Fenrir, I'm forever forgetting to lift the brush while painting (too many years of doing watercolor and/or acrylic, where that's the wrong thing to do; ) so I'm really glad that there's a History Brush.

When part of the line goes wrong, I don't Undo. I just whip out the 'ol History Brush, click on the step before the stroke, and Undo just that portion of the line that went wonky.

Since all the History Brush does is revert the pixels under the brush to the chosen History State, it doesn't affect anything in the image except the line I just drew.

Which lets me correct with precision, which I always enjoy.

_____________________

Robin (Sojourner) Wood
www.robinwood.com

"Second Life ... is an Internet-based virtual world ... and a libertarian anarchy..." Wikipedia

mcgeeb Gupte

Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,---

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

Posts: 1,152

03-10-2006 20:58

From: Robin Sojourner

mcgeeb, you don't have to have a lot of incremental backups, unless you want them. Generally, I just toggle between A and B (for instance, NewShirt A.psd and NewShirt B.psd.) I look at the top of the window, to see which one I'm using, and Save As... the other one.

It's only when I'm doing something I'm not sure of that I'll make a whole new one, and I generally do that by clicking the "Create New Document from Current State" button at the bottom left of the History palette. Then I save that as, for instance, "NewShirt Collar 1.psd" so that I know what bit I was experimenting with, close that document, and go back to work on the A or B.

When I have the thing the way I want it, and am ready to move on to the next project, I'll save a copy as Fini (NewShirt Fini.psd) so that I know that's the actual finished image. At that point, depending, I might blow away the incremental copies, or I might put them on a CD. No point allowing them to clutter up the hard drive, though. Vast empty spaces on the hard drive REALLY improve PS performance, in my experience.

Fenrir, I'm forever forgetting to lift the brush while painting (too many years of doing watercolor and/or acrylic, where that's the wrong thing to do; ) so I'm really glad that there's a History Brush.

When part of the line goes wrong, I don't Undo. I just whip out the 'ol History Brush, click on the step before the stroke, and Undo just that portion of the line that went wonky.

Since all the History Brush does is revert the pixels under the brush to the chosen History State, it doesn't affect anything in the image except the line I just drew.

Which lets me correct with precision, which I always enjoy.

Thank you Robin. I'm glad you mentioned the history brush, because I tend to keep down the brush too long also. I use the paintbrush a lot.
Time to back up my stuff this weekend also before I lose any of those. How I ended up with over 2GB of files I don't know. I better delete some of the stuff I don't need and keep what I do need anymore.
Then theres the inventory inworld I need to deal with. It's busting at the seams. I wish the inventory on SL was more like windows.

Also the outfit I did make this week is done and I did save that this time whenever I left the PC. I'm happy because it took so long to work on. Hopefully I learned my lesson, because I don't want to redo things again.

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mcgeeb Gupte Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,--- Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,152	03-07-2006 21:02 Is there any auto-save in Photoshop?? I just lost my PSP file of 5 hours worth. Thankfully I still do have the bmp file to work with. Thanks.
Ben Bacon Registered User Join date: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 809	03-08-2006 05:57 From: mcgeeb Gupte Is there any auto-save in Photoshop?? I just lost my PSP file of 5 hours worth. Thankfully I still do have the bmp file to work with. Thanks. Ouch! I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save. I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete: Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement. Every time you lean back to ponder - every time you stand up to run off to the bathroom - every time the doorbell or phone rings - hit save as you push off. Good luck!
mcgeeb Gupte Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,--- Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,152	03-08-2006 06:20 From: Ben Bacon Ouch! I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save. I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete: Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement. Every time you lean back to ponder - every time you stand up to run off to the bathroom - every time the doorbell or phone rings - hit save as you push off. Good luck! Well thanks for the help, and it wasn't as bad as I first thought.
Rhynalae Eldrich Doodle Dabbler Join date: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 61	03-08-2006 06:20 From: Ben Bacon Ouch! I really sympathise, but I don't think PS does have auto-save. I'm not aware of one either, unless there's one in the CS version. I'm using 7.0.1. Wish there was better news to share... From: someone I know everyone is gonna tell you "save, save, save" or "save, and save often" - and you're gonna "yeah - I know, I know - but it's too late now", but here is how I make it concrete: Make ctrl-S (or the mac equivalent) part of your push-away-from-desk movement. I don't even think anymore, I just do it automatically. These sorts of experiences are fast teachers. (But I had lots of practice from using MS Word... It seems to crash if you just look at it cross-ways.)
Robin Sojourner Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,080	03-08-2006 09:15 Afraid that there isn't one in CS or CS2, either. But, ummmm, I'm a little confused. You said that you lost your PSP file? Is that the format for Paintshop Pro? Or is it just a typo? Because I don't know if PSP has an auto-save or not. (The format for PS is .psd.) I've found that it's worth it to save incremental backups, too, just in case. I do it whenever I think of it, just in case I need to retreat to a step that's farther back than the History palette allows. You can do the same thing with Snapshots, but they vanish when you close the document; so they won't help if the cat sits on the switch for the Power Strip. _____________________ Robin (Sojourner) Wood www.robinwood.com "Second Life ... is an Internet-based virtual world ... and a libertarian anarchy..." Wikipedia
mcgeeb Gupte Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,--- Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,152	03-08-2006 14:01 From: Robin Sojourner Afraid that there isn't one in CS or CS2, either. But, ummmm, I'm a little confused. You said that you lost your PSP file? Is that the format for Paintshop Pro? Or is it just a typo? Because I don't know if PSP has an auto-save or not. (The format for PS is .psd.) I've found that it's worth it to save incremental backups, too, just in case. I do it whenever I think of it, just in case I need to retreat to a step that's farther back than the History palette allows. You can do the same thing with Snapshots, but they vanish when you close the document; so they won't help if the cat sits on the switch for the Power Strip. Oops I meant psd. I'm going to need a bigger hard drive with all of these incremental backups
Fenrir Reitveld Crazy? Don't mind if I do Join date: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 459	03-10-2006 12:54 I keep my history states set to like 60 or so. Sure, it means PS eats RAM, but I like being able to go back if I need to. Go WAY back... I also try to remember to let up on the brush I am using every once and a while, so I don't have a whole big painted area saved as a single history state... Other than that, I hit CTRL-S a lot.
Robin Sojourner Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,080	03-10-2006 13:59 mcgeeb, you don't have to have a lot of incremental backups, unless you want them. Generally, I just toggle between A and B (for instance, NewShirt A.psd and NewShirt B.psd.) I look at the top of the window, to see which one I'm using, and Save As... the other one. It's only when I'm doing something I'm not sure of that I'll make a whole new one, and I generally do that by clicking the "Create New Document from Current State" button at the bottom left of the History palette. Then I save that as, for instance, "NewShirt Collar 1.psd" so that I know what bit I was experimenting with, close that document, and go back to work on the A or B. When I have the thing the way I want it, and am ready to move on to the next project, I'll save a copy as Fini (NewShirt Fini.psd) so that I know that's the actual finished image. At that point, depending, I might blow away the incremental copies, or I might put them on a CD. No point allowing them to clutter up the hard drive, though. Vast empty spaces on the hard drive REALLY improve PS performance, in my experience. Fenrir, I'm forever forgetting to lift the brush while painting (too many years of doing watercolor and/or acrylic, where that's the wrong thing to do; ) so I'm really glad that there's a History Brush. When part of the line goes wrong, I don't Undo. I just whip out the 'ol History Brush, click on the step before the stroke, and Undo just that portion of the line that went wonky. Since all the History Brush does is revert the pixels under the brush to the chosen History State, it doesn't affect anything in the image except the line I just drew. Which lets me correct with precision, which I always enjoy. _____________________ Robin (Sojourner) Wood www.robinwood.com "Second Life ... is an Internet-based virtual world ... and a libertarian anarchy..." Wikipedia
mcgeeb Gupte Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,--- Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,152	03-10-2006 20:58 From: Robin Sojourner mcgeeb, you don't have to have a lot of incremental backups, unless you want them. Generally, I just toggle between A and B (for instance, NewShirt A.psd and NewShirt B.psd.) I look at the top of the window, to see which one I'm using, and Save As... the other one. It's only when I'm doing something I'm not sure of that I'll make a whole new one, and I generally do that by clicking the "Create New Document from Current State" button at the bottom left of the History palette. Then I save that as, for instance, "NewShirt Collar 1.psd" so that I know what bit I was experimenting with, close that document, and go back to work on the A or B. When I have the thing the way I want it, and am ready to move on to the next project, I'll save a copy as Fini (NewShirt Fini.psd) so that I know that's the actual finished image. At that point, depending, I might blow away the incremental copies, or I might put them on a CD. No point allowing them to clutter up the hard drive, though. Vast empty spaces on the hard drive REALLY improve PS performance, in my experience. Fenrir, I'm forever forgetting to lift the brush while painting (too many years of doing watercolor and/or acrylic, where that's the wrong thing to do; ) so I'm really glad that there's a History Brush. When part of the line goes wrong, I don't Undo. I just whip out the 'ol History Brush, click on the step before the stroke, and Undo just that portion of the line that went wonky. Since all the History Brush does is revert the pixels under the brush to the chosen History State, it doesn't affect anything in the image except the line I just drew. Which lets me correct with precision, which I always enjoy. Thank you Robin. I'm glad you mentioned the history brush, because I tend to keep down the brush too long also. I use the paintbrush a lot. Time to back up my stuff this weekend also before I lose any of those. How I ended up with over 2GB of files I don't know. I better delete some of the stuff I don't need and keep what I do need anymore. Then theres the inventory inworld I need to deal with. It's busting at the seams. I wish the inventory on SL was more like windows. Also the outfit I did make this week is done and I did save that this time whenever I left the PC. I'm happy because it took so long to work on. Hopefully I learned my lesson, because I don't want to redo things again.