Upload issues

Anyone else experience this:
I can seem to get an upload to take. When I upload a image, I go through the steps all the way to the view where it shows me what it looks like in game (the little window). All good? No. When I click the upload L$10, I get the uploading box but suddenly everything else freezes. I can't chat, IM, move, fly, teleport, use the inventory (i can open it, the map, etc) etc. The only thing I can do is rotate my view and enter mouse look. It does charge either. So I called Tech support today and got a 'leave a message and we will get back to you' message.
Is this a bandwidth issue or a client fubar issue or something happening serverside.
Just wandering if anyone else is having this.
And if I am the only unlucky one, can someone help me upload?
Finally about the collars, does anyone know why the back template is higher than the front. Tips for solving this problems quickly?

Thanks.

I was having problems last nite uploading textures, didnt try it after maint though. Also am having problems getting textures to stay put on newly created items. I had to send the textures to some people that bought a gown, which i dont mind doing, but its a total pain in the backside for all involved

ON the template being higher for the back, I think that has something to do with the way SL renders the avi meshes. Total pain in the rear when designing front and backs where things need to line up.

But one thing I do for like bra straps is to create a straight line across the front and back of the template all the way across then turn it partially transparent so i can be sure to get enough bleed area and select a square around the back piece, cut and paste (or promote selection to new layer and move it around until the offset is right, save it as a test pic and use the clothes previewer (also in the stickies) to check it.

Chip Midnights templates in the stickies help greatly with their seam guides.

I've experienced this issue a lot recently. It first started with bulk uploads (say 10+), but now and again it will happen when I'm uploading only a single texture.

I've notified LL several times....not sure what can be done, but it is annoying having to log out and back in again.

*sigh*

Technology is our friend.

Best,

~Ari

I haven't actually succeeded in getting something up. It is beginning to frustrate me. I have using 54 College Wifi and still nothing.

You're on a wireless connection? That may be the problem. SL does not support wireless access. The packet transfer methods SL uses are not robust enough to survive a little packet loss in a WiFi link.

That is nonsense, I am on wireless when I am at school, I can upload my clothing work what I make in class when I am bored ^^ (ow yeah, i am naughty). And thats also wireless. Maybe the signal is not strong enough, but I cannot say that you have to blame the wireless connection in general. I have sometimes an issue when I am far away from the router and when I have 2 or less dots in the connectionscreen of my laptop. Uploading takes slow then, maybe for 3 minutes, but it goes in the end.

Ummm, excuse me, Mephisto, but the fact that you are able to do something doesn't make it "nonsense" to point out that the Lindens don't support it.

From the Second Life System Requirements page



Thunderclap, this could, indeed, be your problem. Is there any way for you to connect without using WiFi?

I do networking. I am aware of the connection limits. My point was that 54 megs with no one accessing but me, strikes me as a bit odd not to be able to move a simpel 512kb file huh?

I plan on getting the 9 meg cable broadband when I get the money to do it. But right now, I go on wireless. It should work. I have no packet loss when I am alone. So I am basically forced to wander about doing nothing until I get the money for broadband. That defeats the purpose of this. I go to Class and work. I wanted something fun to wind down with because writing takes enegry and thought and I am tired. This doesn't.
But what is the point if I can't contribute? I could go back to UO or any MMoRPG if I want to wander about. Hell, I could chat on MYspace or IRC for that.
I have a complete Battlestar Galactric officers uniform down to the gold buttons waiting to be uploaded. I have bikinis, shorts, suits and other stuff waiting.
Hell, I even pulled up my copy of Facegen and produced a few test heads to see if it would work.
I could see if it wouldn't take and told me. But I expect a certain level out of this. If I can move and speak and chat and do other activities, then I should be able to do this.
I am seriously beginning ot wonder if they bit off more than they could chew and now can't tell anyone because it owuld be mean the naysayers were right. That would lead to disappointment.

I checked There, Keneva and a few others. Most are what I saw in 2003. 3d chat rooms. Keneva is 3d myspace oooh oooo please! *shakes head* There requires uploads to be approved. So I am stuck with you guyts for better or worse.

I need solutions. Not It aint supported. On the conciege meeting I see bitching about rackserver prices. While that is another entire issue all together, Some of you outthere have to have experienced this. I can move 400 meg files in 2 hours.
Someone has a solution.
I know you don't know me, but how can you if this isn't solved. For all you know I could be the next Starex (I gather he made animals and stuff that everyone gushes over).
All I am asking is for help. So no more Captain Obvious. Those who have posted that use Wifi, what is your machine and what speed and thoughput are you at. And the netwrok if you don't mind. Hell, it could be a bottleneck. It is something.
I thank you all anyway.

Robin: Not at this time. I know of none who has cable internet that I could borrow briefly. And I did notice that it said some wifi. I wonder who. At the dorm, its sbc, at the Library it is Spartan's custom build Of which I can't talk to the @$$ of a IT guy because it would just ban the ports. that is the Bic that he is. I do know that it is 54 megbits per second and that I use it 12 feet from the router.
I have tried Panera bread's wifi, the Airport (Tulsa International), Qdoba, and several hotels. I am actively seeking a solution.
Does anyone know if I could run SL on a USB drive? That It guy has run enabled on the computers hooked straigh into the main college server ( I already argued with him on this as having save disabled and run enabled is foolish at best)

anyway, as I understand it: Hair and jewerly mostly prims
top and bottoms tetxures
Dresses and suits both
hats are prims, right.
So how can you get a accurate texture onto say a ball cap. OR is it trial and error
?
any if you read all of this, thanks. I bless you.

Hi again Thunderclap,

I'm really sorry you're having such a hard time with this. I'm not trying to say that the WiFi connection is the only possible issue that could cause your problem. Just that it is a likely contributor to your problems. The communications protocols that SL chooses to use is UDP, and are designed to work on a connection that does not get interrupted. It isn't as robust as TCP or some other protocols. If SL drops a packet, it doesn't always manage to pick it up on a retry.

Packet loss often causes a complete disconnect from the SL servers even if you are on a hardwired broadband connection. Yesterday I had no less than three complete disconnects while I was just standing in a sim and attempting to edit textures on a prim. I had one more while attempting to upload a texture, precisely as you reported. I started the upload, and suddenly was disconnected (can turn in place, but can't do anything else, and the mini-map turns red). The only recourse was to log off and log back on again. Very frustrating. This particular problem has been a LOT more frequent after the last two SL client updates. But it isn't a constant issue. I was able to upload over 60 textures in the last three days, and the vast majotity of them uploaded just fine, first try.

So... it might not be you or your WiFi connection at all. Or at least, it may just be that the WiFi makes it worse for you. My suspicion at this point is that the number of people on-line at once is a contributing factor, since no matter what they are doing or where on the grid they are, they all have to use the central asset server.

Thank you, Ceera. You answered a big question. Any now, I want to fly out to SF and strat kicking those IT engineers in the nuts until they collapse. *screams*
For those of you would don't know what the UDP protocol does, I will surmise.
It provides users access to IP-like services. UDP packets are delivered just like IP packets - connection-less datagrams that may be discarded before reaching their targets. UDP is useful when TCP would be too complex, too slow, or just unnecessary. (heh).


UDP (User datagram Protocol) provides a few functions beyond that of IP:

1. Port Numbers. UDP provides 16-bit port numbers to let multiple processes use UDP services on the same host. A UDP address is the combination of a 32-bit IP address and the 16-bit port number.
   
   
2. Checksumming. Unlike IP, UDP does checksum its data, ensuring data integrity. A packet failing checksum is simply discarded, with no further action taken.
   

The only problem is when you are firewalled, there are issues that generally prevent UDP from being effective. It is popular with several bittorrent applications as well as many other P2p applications. (IM, VOIP etc)
Ok so what doe this mean for those who are simply sitting behind the computer.
It means that unles you are hardwired to massive amounts of Bandwidth, you aren't going to be doing much.
Now I could give an overview of TCP and why it would work with the direction Phillip is going but that would bore everyone silly. So I digress.
For those who want to know why I am really annoyed http://www.protocols.com/pbook/tcpip2.htm#UDP.
So where does this leave me? Stuck without a way to upload until a: I find someone with UDP open (I have azureus so not hard to check. It for time shifting TV programs)
b: buy the Cox High spped internet and configure my firewall.
C: a miracle that LL scales up so at the library I can send stuff without worrying. *heh*
And least now I have a question to ask Phillip at the town hall that make him think.

hmm... if you are at college... hunt down a hardcore net person that has broadband in their dorm and butter em up, or beg or buy time on their broadband connection... okay so maybe not the most ethical way to go about it, but at worst you meet a new person to buy net time from, at best you get a new buddy whom you can corrupt with the addiction that is SL and share a pizza while doing it and will have no prob sharing their router w/ ya.

How do you think I got free wifi? Oh well, I am going to get 9 mbits a sec soon anyway. *sigh*