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"No Copy" versus "No Transfer"

Kats Kothari
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05-01-2004 18:59
I know that there have been many debates as to which is better and more convenient to the customers. Both have their pros and cons: Copy/No Transfer makes is so the the person can mix and match their outfits, but they can't give any of the clothing items as gifts to others; while Transfer/No Copy makes is so that the person can give away items as gifts, but they only have that one copy for themselves.

All the clothing that I have made for sale has been set to Mod/Transfer/No Copy. I have been thinking about which one is better and if I should change the permissions. Fortunately, the clothing items are affordable, so people can buy copies, but I know that this can be a pain to those that don't have the Lindens and that it makes it harder for them to have to travel the world searching for the place to buy another one.

So this brings me to the main topic of discussion: :)
~ Which is better: Transfer/No Copy or Copy/ No Transfer?
~ Which one do you use?
~ Do you also include Mod in the permissions?
~ Why to all 3 questions?

Edited to fix grammatical errors
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Reitsuki Kojima
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Re: "No Copy" versus "No Transfer"
05-01-2004 20:16
From: someone
Originally posted by Kats Kothari
I know that there has been many debates as to which is better and more convenient to the customers. Both have their pros and cons: Copy/No Transfer makes is so the the person can mix and match their outfits, but they can't give any of the clothing items as gifts to others; while Transfer/No Copy makes is so that the person can give away items as gifts, but they only have that one copy for themselves.

All the clothing that I have made for sale has been set to Mod/Transfer/No Copy. I have been thinking about which one is better and if I should change the permissions. Fortunately, the clothing items are affordable, so people can buy copies, but I know that this can be a pain to those that don't have the Lindens and that it makes it harder for them to have to travel the world searching for the place to buy another one.

So this brings me to the main topic of discussion: :)
~ Which is better: Transfer/No Copy or Copy/ No Transfer?
~ Which one do you use?
~ Do you also include Mod in the permissions?
~ Why to all 3 questions?


I prefer copy/notrans as both a customer and a creator.

For clothing, I prefer having mod permission... Sometimes an outfit that looks great on the AV that the creator used needs a little tweeking on a new AV. Or sometimes something happens like with the 1.3 update and pants, whereby no-mod stuff is rendered useless...

I guess I dont see, with clothing at least, any compelling reason to not allow mod.
Moleculor Satyr
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Join date: 5 Jan 2004
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05-01-2004 22:29
I prefer copy/no-trans as a customer, and a creator, but I don't make clothing, just scripts, so I guess that doesn't matter too much here. :P
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Planet Mars
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Join date: 10 Feb 2004
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Re: "No Copy" versus "No Transfer"
05-02-2004 02:22
From: someone
Originally posted by Kats Kothari

~ Which is better: Transfer/No Copy or Copy/ No Transfer?
~ Which one do you use?
~ Do you also include Mod in the permissions?
~ Why to all 3 questions?B]


I prefer Mod/Transfer/No Copy as a buyer.

As a creator, the only things I sell are tattoo's, with textures mod/no copy and no mod/no copy seem to be the same?

Again as the buyer, I like to be able to modify an item to suit me more. I regularly give items as gifts to SL friends, and therefore dislike no transfer.
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Join date: 10 Nov 2003
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05-02-2004 07:51
I prefer copy/no-transfer as customer and creator.

I sell mostly accessories, and I can sell a no-copy/trans version if the person wants it as a gift.

But as a customer, I would be upset if I couldn't wear my favorite ring with every outfit i own - or had to pay several thousand extra to accomplish it.

It's a tough choice, but that's the one I made.
Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
Posts: 762
05-02-2004 08:02
I'll chime in as a customer only.

I hardly ever buy clothes for myself. Mostly if I'm buying clothes it's as a gift to someone, or a way of making a non-donation "donation" to someone.

For the donation part, it doesn't matter either way.

For the gifting part, it matters a great deal. I definitely prefer transfer/no copy.

I realize it's something of a pain, but have you considered using vending machines with identical items sitting side-by side. One vending machine dispenses copy/no transfer, and the other dispenses transfer/no copy.
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Sensual Casanova
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Join date: 28 Feb 2004
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05-02-2004 09:14
From: someone
Originally posted by Grim Lupis

I realize it's something of a pain, but have you considered using vending machines with identical items sitting side-by side. One vending machine dispenses copy/no transfer, and the other dispenses transfer/no copy.


That's a good idea! Although not only woul it be very time consuming, but it will also double the prim usage in a store :(

I make clothing and I sell them at no copy/trans but I would be willing to take special requests if someone would rather have them copy/no trans...
Kats Kothari
Disturbingly Cute
Join date: 14 Aug 2003
Posts: 556
05-02-2004 13:39
Great answers! I love to hear people's opinions on this subject. :)

I once bought a gift for my SigOther Katsushiro Foo (who's barely inworld since he started playing FFX2) and even though it was set to transfer, for some reason it kept giving me an error when I tried to give it to him. The creator helped me out in that situation, but since then I just decided to give Katsu the Lindens to buy himself something pretty, instead of buying it myself.

This is an alternative for those who would prefer it, but I have to admit that it's a better sentiment to give the item itself. It might actually be better to contact the creator if one wants a transferable object, but how many people would actually contact you?
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Zana Feaver
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Join date: 17 Jul 2003
Posts: 396
05-03-2004 07:15
I prefer copy/no transfer as a creator and a customer. However, I have had customers ask for diffferent perms which I have either done for them myself OR have had customers ask me to just drop a piece of clothing to a friend along with a little personalized note. I do both happily, so really, all someone has to do is get in touch with me and I'll set them up :). I do post signage about this in my shop.

I just prefer the ability to be able to copy something. Sometimes I want to wear, oh a favorite necklace with everything, but it's no copy so I have to watch where it goes. Sometimes I just lose stuff :).

Zana
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Shadow Weaver
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Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
05-03-2004 11:28
Me I like No mod / Copy / No tranfer.

No Mod..Lot of the stuff I create is tinted thus if someone moded it by retinting it then they could claim I copied them if I ever sold that color thus No Mod. Again this has happend in the past with my partner and I.

We were asked to make some non-exclusive clothing in white at the time we didnt think about it and then a month latter we found the design all over the place because the mod permissions were set and the individual copied to hard drive and then reuploaded tinted and sold accordingly.

Copy so they can mix and match in their inventory.

No Transfer. By having the item copyable the no transfer is a must because then they cold spawn multiple copies of our product and sell them if it was not set this way.

On special occasions I will make a No Mod No copy version but make it transferable as for a gift.

Shadow
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Julian Fate
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05-03-2004 11:59
I prefer copy / no-trans as a creator and no-copy / trans as a customer.

/me cancels himself out and vanishes.
Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
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05-03-2004 12:10
From: someone
Originally posted by Sensual Casanova
That's a good idea! Although not only woul it be very time consuming, but it will also double the prim usage in a store


Actually, if you're using a vending machine, you could just add another "buy" button. Two buy buttons. I'm not positive if it can be done via script, but you could (possibly) even have the script set the permissions, so you wouldn't have to maintain two sets of merchandise.

But, that's not why I'm here...

I had another thought, but again it relies on vending machines. As for my argument in favor of transfer/no copy: It would suit my purposes if the vending machine provided an option where I pay the L$, but the vending machine gives the item to someone else. That's probably not possible, though, as it opens up doors for new and exciting ways to annoy the hell outta people. :-/
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