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Star Lewis

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Join date: 22 Oct 2005

Posts: 27

06-14-2006 13:19

Hi i dont know if this is my computer or secondlife but my image are coming up with a white back ground when i try to make clothes.Do anybody know about this?

Elle74 Zaftig

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Join date: 21 Apr 2005

Posts: 221

06-14-2006 13:24

Are u using PS or PSP? Or is this in-game clothing?

If it is PS or PSP, you need to make alphas for your clothing, and sae them as 32-bit targas.

Tons of tutorials on how to make clothing here on the forums. Search for Robin Sojourner as well. I learned a lot from their website.

Hope this helps.

Elle

Star Lewis

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Join date: 22 Oct 2005

Posts: 27

06-14-2006 13:29

From: Elle74 Zaftig

Are u using PS or PSP? Or is this in-game clothing?

If it is PS or PSP, you need to make alphas for your clothing, and sae them as 32-bit targas.

Tons of tutorials on how to make clothing here on the forums. Search for Robin Sojourner as well. I learned a lot from their website.

Hope this helps.

Elle

OKAY but photoshop seven i didnt have to do that.i know people who dont make alpha and there clothes come out find where can i find out how.

Elle74 Zaftig

~*~Crafter~*~

Join date: 21 Apr 2005

Posts: 221

06-14-2006 13:42

Hmm..I use CS2...I had a lower version, not sure if 6 or 7 and it didn't want to save in targa or something like that, so I had to upgrade.

Do a search for ALPHA or Photoshop tutorials on this forum. Search bar is up top. Or even do a google search for it. Tons of free PS tutes out there. It's how I learned most of it.

Elle

Star Lewis

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Join date: 22 Oct 2005

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06-14-2006 13:47

From: Elle74 Zaftig

Hmm..I use CS2...I had a lower version, not sure if 6 or 7 and it didn't want to save in targa or something like that, so I had to upgrade.

Do a search for ALPHA or Photoshop tutorials on this forum. Search bar is up top. Or even do a google search for it. Tons of free PS tutes out there. It's how I learned most of it.

Elle

okay ty i dont think its the alpha i know photoshop well i think its sl all my images are coming out with a white back ground.

Elle74 Zaftig

~*~Crafter~*~

Join date: 21 Apr 2005

Posts: 221

06-14-2006 13:50

Alrighty, hope it gets fixed soon. Cheers

Chosen Few

Alpha Channel Slave

Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

06-14-2006 14:55

From the Transparency Guide stickied at the top of this forum, here are the relevant answers to your question from the FAQ section:

From: someone

How come the transparent areas of my image appear white in SL instead of transparent?

If this is happening, it's because your image contains no alpha channel. Whithout the alpha channel present, SL has no way of determining which pixels are supposed to be transparent since the alpha channel is what contains all the transparency data. Without it, the only data present in the image is color data. Since the "transparent" pixels have no color, SL interprets them as white. To solve the problem, make sure your image contains an alpha channel, and that you've saved it as 32-bit TGA.

This guide contains a ton of information on what alpha channels are, how they work, and how to make them, so keep reading.

How do I make alpha channels?

Below the FAQ section is a tutorial section with specific instructions for creating alpha channels in Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, and Paint Shop Pro.

What about automated alpha channel plug-ins? I’ve seen one for Photoshop mentioned on this forum. Does it work?

The file in question is actually the TGA saver plug-in from Photoshop 7.0, which was Adobe’s one and only experiment with automated alpha channel creation for TGA. The experiment was a dismal failure, riddled with problems. Adobe quickly realized they had made a monumental mistake with 7.0, and they patched it with version 7.0.1, which got rid of the automation and the problems that went with it.

However, some people unfortunately are still under the impression that the automation is a time-saver, and they use that plug-in from 7.0 to alter the way other versions of Photoshop operate. In truth, people who use it are actually making things much harder on themselves without even realizing it. Let me explain.

First, and most importantly, the automation causes artifacts which are impossible to correct, the most common of which is the white halo mentioned above.

Second, images ceated with these automated (embedded) alphas are incompatible with most graphics applications, as opposed to real alpha channels, which have been a staple of the graphics inudustry for decades, and can be understood by nearly all graphics programs.

Third, it is not a significant time saver at all since making an alpha channel only takes a few seconds at most.

Fourth, for images with complicated transparency levels, like stained glass windows, for example, it actually makes the process take MUCH longer.

Fifth, and very importantly, it encourages destructive workflow habits. Since it’s entirely a WYSIWYG system, those who use it have a tendency to create transparency by erasing, which makes it very difficult to make changes later.

In short, alpha automation is bad news. Don’t use it.

I’ve heard Photoshop 7.0 is bugged, and that it handles transparency differently than all other versions of Photoshop. Is this true?

Yes, it’s true. Anyone using 7.0 should download the free 7.0.1 update from Adobe before proceeding any further. See the previous question for the biggest reason why.

Those four pretty much cover what you're asking about, but I'd highly recommend you read the entire guide. There's lots of useful info in it. If there's anything you don't understand, or if you're still having trouble, let me know.

_____________________

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Robin Sojourner

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Join date: 16 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,080

06-14-2006 15:07

Hi Star.

It is, in fact, the alpha. If you've been using PS 7.0, it made an embedded alpha channel that was prone to massive incompatibility with most other programs. So Adobe abandoned it within weeks, and went back to its previous behavior. (A separate, and therefore editable, alpha channel.)

There is a huge amount of information about that behavior on these forums.

I've written some actions, so that any version of Photoshop can make an Alpha for you. You can get them here. (Clicking that link will start the download, so be aware of that.)

Instructions are included in the folder.

Be aware that using an Alpha channel on a file that gets its transparency from layer transparency will result in a white "halo," since the file is flattened onto a white ground.

It's easy enough to eliminate. All you have to do is download the free Solidify plug-ins from Flaming Pear. If you don't have the plug-ins, but want them, you can get them in the "Free Plugins" package on the Download page of Flaming Pear.

Once you have them, you can use the Action I've posted here to make an alpha without the halo in a single click.

The second pack is exactly like the other one, with the addition of two actions that use those third-party plug-ins. (You don't need both; if you have the plug-ins, just download the last one.)

Hope this helps!

_____________________

Robin (Sojourner) Wood
www.robinwood.com

"Second Life ... is an Internet-based virtual world ... and a libertarian anarchy..." Wikipedia

Kerrin Moonlight

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Join date: 5 Sep 2005

Posts: 6

Paint Shop Help????

06-15-2006 13:42

Hey everyone...i'm opening a new store and trying to find a good free trial of paint shop pro to fool around with on my products....can anyone help me find a free trial that works??? all the ones i try downloading come up with errors

Elle74 Zaftig

~*~Crafter~*~

Join date: 21 Apr 2005

Posts: 221

06-18-2006 17:30

I'm not sure if PSP has this, but I know u can download a free PS trial at the adobe website. I think it lasts for 30 days...but I'm not quite sure.

Hope this helps.

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Allana Dion

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Join date: 12 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,230

06-19-2006 00:47

From: Kerrin Moonlight

Hey everyone...i'm opening a new store and trying to find a good free trial of paint shop pro to fool around with on my products....can anyone help me find a free trial that works??? all the ones i try downloading come up with errors

Or do a search for Gimp maybe. It is a free program similar to paint shop.

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Star Lewis Registered User Join date: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 27	06-14-2006 13:19 Hi i dont know if this is my computer or secondlife but my image are coming up with a white back ground when i try to make clothes.Do anybody know about this?
Elle74 Zaftig ~~Crafter~~ Join date: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 221	06-14-2006 13:24 Are u using PS or PSP? Or is this in-game clothing? If it is PS or PSP, you need to make alphas for your clothing, and sae them as 32-bit targas. Tons of tutorials on how to make clothing here on the forums. Search for Robin Sojourner as well. I learned a lot from their website. Hope this helps. Elle
Star Lewis Registered User Join date: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 27	06-14-2006 13:29 From: Elle74 Zaftig Are u using PS or PSP? Or is this in-game clothing? If it is PS or PSP, you need to make alphas for your clothing, and sae them as 32-bit targas. Tons of tutorials on how to make clothing here on the forums. Search for Robin Sojourner as well. I learned a lot from their website. Hope this helps. Elle OKAY but photoshop seven i didnt have to do that.i know people who dont make alpha and there clothes come out find where can i find out how.
Elle74 Zaftig ~~Crafter~~ Join date: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 221	06-14-2006 13:42 Hmm..I use CS2...I had a lower version, not sure if 6 or 7 and it didn't want to save in targa or something like that, so I had to upgrade. Do a search for ALPHA or Photoshop tutorials on this forum. Search bar is up top. Or even do a google search for it. Tons of free PS tutes out there. It's how I learned most of it. Elle
Star Lewis Registered User Join date: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 27	06-14-2006 13:47 From: Elle74 Zaftig Hmm..I use CS2...I had a lower version, not sure if 6 or 7 and it didn't want to save in targa or something like that, so I had to upgrade. Do a search for ALPHA or Photoshop tutorials on this forum. Search bar is up top. Or even do a google search for it. Tons of free PS tutes out there. It's how I learned most of it. Elle okay ty i dont think its the alpha i know photoshop well i think its sl all my images are coming out with a white back ground.
Elle74 Zaftig ~~Crafter~~ Join date: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 221	06-14-2006 13:50 Alrighty, hope it gets fixed soon. Cheers
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	06-14-2006 14:55 From the Transparency Guide stickied at the top of this forum, here are the relevant answers to your question from the FAQ section: From: someone How come the transparent areas of my image appear white in SL instead of transparent? If this is happening, it's because your image contains no alpha channel. Whithout the alpha channel present, SL has no way of determining which pixels are supposed to be transparent since the alpha channel is what contains all the transparency data. Without it, the only data present in the image is color data. Since the "transparent" pixels have no color, SL interprets them as white. To solve the problem, make sure your image contains an alpha channel, and that you've saved it as 32-bit TGA. This guide contains a ton of information on what alpha channels are, how they work, and how to make them, so keep reading. How do I make alpha channels? Below the FAQ section is a tutorial section with specific instructions for creating alpha channels in Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, and Paint Shop Pro. What about automated alpha channel plug-ins? I’ve seen one for Photoshop mentioned on this forum. Does it work? The file in question is actually the TGA saver plug-in from Photoshop 7.0, which was Adobe’s one and only experiment with automated alpha channel creation for TGA. The experiment was a dismal failure, riddled with problems. Adobe quickly realized they had made a monumental mistake with 7.0, and they patched it with version 7.0.1, which got rid of the automation and the problems that went with it. However, some people unfortunately are still under the impression that the automation is a time-saver, and they use that plug-in from 7.0 to alter the way other versions of Photoshop operate. In truth, people who use it are actually making things much harder on themselves without even realizing it. Let me explain. First, and most importantly, the automation causes artifacts which are impossible to correct, the most common of which is the white halo mentioned above. Second, images ceated with these automated (embedded) alphas are incompatible with most graphics applications, as opposed to real alpha channels, which have been a staple of the graphics inudustry for decades, and can be understood by nearly all graphics programs. Third, it is not a significant time saver at all since making an alpha channel only takes a few seconds at most. Fourth, for images with complicated transparency levels, like stained glass windows, for example, it actually makes the process take MUCH longer. Fifth, and very importantly, it encourages destructive workflow habits. Since it’s entirely a WYSIWYG system, those who use it have a tendency to create transparency by erasing, which makes it very difficult to make changes later. In short, alpha automation is bad news. Don’t use it. I’ve heard Photoshop 7.0 is bugged, and that it handles transparency differently than all other versions of Photoshop. Is this true? Yes, it’s true. Anyone using 7.0 should download the free 7.0.1 update from Adobe before proceeding any further. See the previous question for the biggest reason why. Those four pretty much cover what you're asking about, but I'd highly recommend you read the entire guide. There's lots of useful info in it. If there's anything you don't understand, or if you're still having trouble, let me know. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Robin Sojourner Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,080	06-14-2006 15:07 Hi Star. It is, in fact, the alpha. If you've been using PS 7.0, it made an embedded alpha channel that was prone to massive incompatibility with most other programs. So Adobe abandoned it within weeks, and went back to its previous behavior. (A separate, and therefore editable, alpha channel.) There is a huge amount of information about that behavior on these forums. I've written some actions, so that any version of Photoshop can make an Alpha for you. You can get them here. (Clicking that link will start the download, so be aware of that.) Instructions are included in the folder. Be aware that using an Alpha channel on a file that gets its transparency from layer transparency will result in a white "halo," since the file is flattened onto a white ground. It's easy enough to eliminate. All you have to do is download the free Solidify plug-ins from Flaming Pear. If you don't have the plug-ins, but want them, you can get them in the "Free Plugins" package on the Download page of Flaming Pear. Once you have them, you can use the Action I've posted here to make an alpha without the halo in a single click. The second pack is exactly like the other one, with the addition of two actions that use those third-party plug-ins. (You don't need both; if you have the plug-ins, just download the last one.) Hope this helps! _____________________ Robin (Sojourner) Wood www.robinwood.com "Second Life ... is an Internet-based virtual world ... and a libertarian anarchy..." Wikipedia
Kerrin Moonlight Registered User Join date: 5 Sep 2005 Posts: 6	Paint Shop Help???? 06-15-2006 13:42 Hey everyone...i'm opening a new store and trying to find a good free trial of paint shop pro to fool around with on my products....can anyone help me find a free trial that works??? all the ones i try downloading come up with errors
Elle74 Zaftig ~~Crafter~~ Join date: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 221	06-18-2006 17:30 I'm not sure if PSP has this, but I know u can download a free PS trial at the adobe website. I think it lasts for 30 days...but I'm not quite sure. Hope this helps. _____________________
Allana Dion Registered User Join date: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,230	06-19-2006 00:47 From: Kerrin Moonlight Hey everyone...i'm opening a new store and trying to find a good free trial of paint shop pro to fool around with on my products....can anyone help me find a free trial that works??? all the ones i try downloading come up with errors Or do a search for Gimp maybe. It is a free program similar to paint shop. _____________________

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