Is there anoyone who can help me make clothing?

I am trying to recreate a particular item, and I have less than no clue how to proceed. People keep telling me "just edit your avatar" as if that helps, but I have no idea how to get the specific results I am seeking.

Is there anyone willing to help me figure out how to learn what I need to know, or would be willing to assist me in creating what I seek?

Thanks!

Look at the stickies at the top of the forum and study the tutorials.

That is LESS than no help at all...

Thanks for nothing.

I asked for specific help, and specifically mentioned that people have said "just go do it" without explaining HOW, or even asking what I wanted.

Why are you here if you are unwilling to help?

...

On second thought, you can keep your poor attitude, and unwillingness to help new individuals, as I have deleted this useless program from my computer.

Wow, what a winning attitude. Tell me, do you always smash your toys when you can't figure out how to work them in the first few minutes?

Sylvia's answer was the right one. If you want to learn, utilize the tremendous wealth of available material. Those of us who took the time to write all that stuff can assure you that it's worth the read. If you're not willing to do that, that's your prerogative, but don't go around bitching at everyone else just because you don't want to do what it takes.

As for the "specific help" you say you asked for, where exactly is your specific question? I sure don't see one in your post. You say you want "assistance in creating what you seek". That's pretty freakin' vague, you must realize. Precisely how in your world is it fair to expect a specific answer to a completely open question?

If you've got something specific to ask, then ask. Otherwise, the only answer you're gonna get is "read the tutorials". That's really all there is to say to someone who won't explain what they need help with.

Start with Robin Sojourners tee shirt tutorial. It is very complete and simple. It will give you an idea of what is involved.

The big thing is that this is way more complicated than it looks.

It looks like this person left because of 'our' 'poor attitude'. I worked in an art supply store for nearly a decade and this sort of attitude is all too familiar. Customer comes in wanting to buy supplies to create a masterpiece. Customer has no prior artistic training or even dabbling. Customer expects employee to hold their hand and explain, step-by-step, how to accomplish customer's artistic vision. Customer becomes irate and leaves when employee suggests that starting at the basics and learning via suggested books and classes might be a better approach. There was a reason we sold books and offered classes!

Here new people wanting to try their hand at creating stuff for Second Life have it even better. The information is free! Many extremely talented people have gone out of their way to create extensive and easy to understand tutorials to help new people get started. They aren't getting paid to do this and the material is offered for free. To scorn such generosity and selfishly demand that one should receive personalized training is, to use the OP's words, 'poor attitude' at best.

Anyway, I'm preaching to the converted. I just get a little knot inside me when I see such selfishness and I had to work it out in words. ^_^;

Hey Beauregard, why don't I just do it for you?

(rolls eyes)

One person tries giving him direction and he insults them, terrific way to get more help. I highly doubt he even bothered to look at the stickies.

Wow, just wow

When I started here not so long ago I was just as clueless. I was so greatful for all the tutorials posted here. After carefully reading many of them and a lot of trial and error, I can now make passable clothing designs.

I have great admiration for you, the people who give so freely of their time to write these guides. For every person like the OP, there are a multitude like myself who appreciate your contributions even if we don't always say it out loud.

hehe tis kinda funny but the help is at the top of the forum

step one read it
step 2 do what it says
step 3 when you run into something that you dont understand in those stickies then come with a specific question
step 4 take the information gained and apply to step's 2 and 3 rinse and repeat till done
step 5 put it on

making something in this game cannot be explained easily its a learning process which requires you to read information and fart around and "apply it"

the bottom line is you take the template downloads they tell you do in the stickies and you start working with them

if you need more help after you have tried then you will start to have questions to ask

lastly take a class
next try not to be so rude the "new generation" i am finding is very impatient and wants to do it all now i guarantee you that you won't be able to do it right now even ifyou have all the software and knowledge from other experiences because you will still have to apply it

so the fastest I have seen anyone do anything in this game that is what they want is maybe a month and that was with "previous experience"

so um please go read the stickies take the information and start that is the only real advice that can be given as the stickes were created to help people who have NO KNOWLEDGE or dont know what to do YOU KNOW LIKE LESSONS?

hehe

arggh

I sure wish more losers with poor attitudes would follow this person's example and "delete this useless program" from their computer SL would be a better place for it.

SL does not need such caustic people who react so strongly negative when someone points out the best place to start.

I can foresee the OP will become the next big designer in SL. By next month, everybody will run into his store. You'll see catfights. You'll see tears. Lucky chairs will collapse under the weight of...

Hmm. Maybe not.

Thanks for chiming in, folks. I have learned to walk away from the trolls and griefers in world, but this response caught me off guard and was an ouch.

I am in awe of the wealth of tutorials and informative threads. I have much to learn and have only scratched the surface of what is available here. Sometimes I can answer a question from someone newer than me who is struggling with something I struggled with a few months ago. Mostly I read the questions and think, I'd like to know the answer to that myself.

Thanks to all of you who are willing to read, study, learn, work, laugh, tinker, experiment, create, teach, write answers and tutorials AND teach free in world classes. This is a great community and I am thrilled, inspired and grateful to be a part of it.

I feel better now.
-Sylvia

what was the *specific * quesion ? lol

I think it was 'how do I do stuff?'. I can't believe nobody gave a specific and detailled answer to that - how selfish. I'd have liked to know how to do stuff, too. Honestly, people here are so rude and uptight, keeping their knowledge to themselves so that people like the OP and myself will never know how to do stuff because they're scared our stuff might be better than their stuff and we'll controll the stuff market. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Tch.

George Carlin already covered the stuff, stuff pretty well, but I bet he could still find a wealth of new stuff to work with in sl .

I wonder how many would be designers are looking for the standard RPG thing where you press a lever and completed goods come out when you've pressed it enough. Not that I didn't enjoy running a tailor's shop in SWG, but this is just completely different.

Second Life Crafting owns MMOG Crafting.

You're post doesn't really make me want to help you. Change your attitude!

Hello! I am new to SecondLife (today is my first day)
I am looking into making myself a basic starter outfit, but no way would I ask for help, without looking and trying myself first.
I may not be that good at first, but what is the point in freaking out and being nasty.
Learn yourself!

Beauregard Mills’s response and attitude may have been a reflection of his dismay at the daunting task of learning SL. As a teacher and mentor in SL, I often see people who are totally lost and who feel helpless, afraid and despondent. You become the object of their feelings.

I am not trying to take up for him. However, his complete rejection and defensive response to Sylvia’s succinct reply could be from his feeling that her response was the final straw in a bewildering world with a very steep learning curve.

I am also, not questing Sylvia’s response. We have all written quick boilerplate responses. After all, after the one hundred “Can someone give....me” Which translates into, “Would someone do it for me?” I sometimes feel like taking the next one and shaking them while yelling in their face, “Hey stupid!” However, that would be wrong. Instead, I reply like Sylvia with a quick and succinct response, telling them where they can find the information. Sometimes, that isn’t enough.

Beauregard Mills is another casually of the Darwinian world we call Second Life. A world where numbers is the goal and resion d’ etre. It matters not if they drop out two days later. Phillip can show one more “resident” to some corporation.

In the meanwhile, we all to few mentors and the unofficial mentors will continue to work with people one on one, attempting to show there is more to this world called Second Life than what people like Beauregard Mills see.

Jen

I feel the frustration that Beauregard felt, but my response, as a newbie, was to learn as much as I could. Not everyone is wired that way, and I often think that SL is wired for people who love the challenge of learning and exploring how things work. Not everyone is an independant learner. I teach here often, and there just are some folks who--notecards and hand-holding aside--can't get it. Most of them leave SL after a time, and what's left is the folks who are thrilled, but not frustrated by the mountain ahead of them.

What I have done, is to create a few notecards that relate to the big topis--of which clothing design is one. I give these to newcomers when they ask. I am VERY careful to warn them that nothing is easy in SL, there are no get rich quick avenues, and that the folks who make money are the ones who work the hardest at it.

Usually this works. So, notecards on clothing creation and making money in SL. I know that this information abounds in the metaverse, but I get asked 1:1 about these two things all the time.

When someone is rude, I give them the notecard, and continue on my way. I think Beau got his notecard/sticky and I hope he will take the time to do what we all did.

I think that a lot of people when they first start on SL hear about how "easy" it is to create content for SL. When they find out that it will take time and effort they get upset. I really feel for them - but at the same time its the same in RL. A lot of people think it is "easy" to create a website, interactive game, video or poster. Yeah, easy - after you have taken tons of courses or have used a computer for a long time and have begun to master one of the many painting programs (namely Photoshop). There are TONS of Photoshop tutorials but the sad truth is that most people really won't get the hang of it for at least a few months of using Photoshop - and they really won't begin to master it until a few YEARS of using Photoshop. That goes for any painting program.

Also there is the question of talent. If you can't draw and really don't have an eye for design, then Photoshop, Paint, Illustrator, 3D Max, Lightwave or anything else isn't going to help. You might make some "ok" stuff - and it might even be passable, but don't expect the Sistene Chapel to happen just because you took a tutorial and have a GREAT IDEA - This stuff takes time. I am willing to help anyone. I keep a list of tutorial favorites and point people in that direction if asked.

Beauregard Mills - if you are still there, there are people here who can help you but you have to take the time and effort to try. Sometimes the response you get may not be what you want - don't give up. Just keep trying. You can IM me in-world or one of the other lovely people who replied on this post and I am sure one of us can point you in the right direction.

DrFran, is it OK if I ask you to drop your notecards onto my profile?

I have a collection of notecards from the Shelter I give to newbies, and I also nudge the ones who want to build/design towards the Ivory Tower and to Robin's texture tutorial. But, of course, the more the merrier

It is bit intimidating at first.
In order to learn stuff takes a lot of practice.
Its okay to ask questions and seek help, which I often do even when I can't always explain what I am doing sometimes.
Sometimes even when I ask there may be nobody who is available.
But that is okay if the person, including really wants to learn how to make "stuff"
eventually they will be.
I know struggled long and hard in how to make stuff for 10 years and it is far from how I would like it but we all start some where, some of learn slower then others.
We were humans with feelings, getting mad at others will not help you learn how to make "stuff" only leave you feel alienated.
If you're really talented and creative you figure out how to make stuff with persistance that part of how I am able to do the stuff I am doing but it still hard.
I appreciate every person who taken their time even briefly to assist me.
Thank you for listen and putting up with me.
Hope I am not as grumpy sounding as the OP when I am stuck.
FD