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Griefers In LL core?

Tre Armistice
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02-11-2006 10:17
Just a story on something I think ppl should know about (telling the story from one of my alts, my forums alter). I was in SL’s Sandbox Weapons Testing one day, like always when I have a little free time from patrolling the other none damage sandboxes, when some griefer attacks me out of nowhere. I ask him to stop 3 times, he still attacks me and some other innocent bystanders. That’s my limit, I blasted him and orbited him twice and he stopped and we made friends.

Soon after that, when I and my new “friend” were working on same boxes, talking about different battle strategies someone (name not disclosed for privacy reasons) comes and just starts randomly blasting in the combat zone, me and all my friends. Then as my shield has an auto return move lock (he blasted trough my shields) I came back to the exact point and said, and quote, “you stupid griefer, why you shoot me?” He says nothing.

So I orbit him and he doesn’t come back for a while, and my new friend saw a gun that I made a long time ago and he asked if he could see it. So I was like, what the heck, and let him see my gun. I told him not to fire in this place, fire in some other empty sim. So he teleported away. A minute after the griefer returns who I orbited before (name not disclosed) and starts blasting me again, I orbit him again, he blast me again with some harbinger parts and things, we exchange insults etcetera. Now before all this I threatened to report him if he kept attacking I and he still did. I said he was reported and he was gunna get banned if he kept up + I orbited him with my gun because I got tired of getting orbited. So when I come back down from being shot up 500bil in air, he is out blasting random people and blasting my new “friend”.

I told him to stop and he just blasts me again. I said and I quote, “HAHA, you gunna get banned so wait and keep shoot’ n!” (I stopped shooting). My friend comes back from being orbited and threatens to kick his butt when the griefer IMs to me “Dude, I cannot get banned!!!, stop trying! It is a waste of your energy to try to ban me; I have friends and folks who work for and in LL so I cannot be banned!” I said “ha-ha yeh right liar griefer loser” and then he blasted my friend again, my friend said he would teach this noob a lesson and he started shooting him with the gun I let him see.

Now is when the bad begins, he never should have shot in the first place, even knowing the sim is a little empty. The gun I made a long time ago has no real restrains on its fire power, it is an uncontrollable weapon that I should have never let him see (I was scanning through my inventory that has 12k items in it for a cagier when I come up on my old project and I say “hey its my old super battle cagier gun” and he asks to see it). So the whole sim gets bombed (including me and him) with the gun that he used to kill the griefer, not knowing that the guy had connections to LL.

Now the guy who has the connections says he will pull some strings willy nilly and get me banned. I’m like “well I have one question, why do you grief if you are supposedly with LL??? Why kill innocent people for no reason?” He says, “cause its fun, I cannot get banned!! What don’t you understand!! I cannot get banned idiot!” As my friend just realized the devastation he caused with the gun I let him see, he said sorry and logged off as people came to me for some reason and saying why did you shoot the sim?
How could it be me? I gave it to him to see lol, him, he shot the people and stuff! Not my fault. So then I file my reports and get stuff in order and I am basically eating my hand off thinking this guy will get me banned. I don’t know if he still will, or turn people’s opinions against me, or if he is just a liar to intimidate people. All I know is that if he is trying to intimidate people…….. It is working.
Enabran Templar
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02-11-2006 10:25
I'm pretty sure he's a liar.

But he's not a griefer either. Note the name of the sim is "Weapons Testing."

Sounds like he was... testing weapons.
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Tre Armistice
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02-11-2006 10:27
From: Enabran Templar
I'm pretty sure he's a liar.

But he's not a griefer either. Note the name of the sim is "Weapons Testing."

Sounds like he was... testing weapons.


Testing them on me and everyone else in the whole sim!!!!! Then laughing to our faces about it! I didn't know you could test your weapons on others in weapons testing SB....
Osgeld Barmy
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02-11-2006 10:34
i dont like weapons in sl

i dont make weapons in sl

i have been shot 3 times since ive been here (almost a year now)

hmmm

play with fire you might get burned?
Tre Armistice
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02-11-2006 10:37
From: Osgeld Barmy
i dont like weapons in sl

i dont make weapons in sl

i have been shot 3 times since ive been here (almost a year now)

hmmm

play with fire you might get burned?


Don't get it, play with what.. weapons? Get burned?? weapons have never realy done nothing to me that really pisses me off or "burns" me. they do get a little annoying sometimes though... doesn't mean they shouldn't be there!
Osgeld Barmy
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02-11-2006 10:43
im not saying they shouldnt be there, but there seems to be an overall sterotype of the gun toting person in sl, and that is they are gonna kill anything that moves becuase they can

so when your dealing with this type what do you expect, even your new freind just out of the blue started shooting you, just becuase you were there
Enabran Templar
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02-11-2006 10:46
From: Tre Armistice
I didn't know you could test your weapons on others in weapons testing SB....


Well... I don't really know what to tell you. The sim is called... "WEAPONS TESTING." Now, I don't know what message that sends to other people, but when I read that, I think "Oh, people will be testing their weapons there."

I don't know many weapons that actually allow you to shoot yourself. That sim is set as no-damage, so if you have a problem, all you have to do is sit down on a box and no one can bother you.
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Cory Edo
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02-11-2006 10:49
The Weapons Sandbox is specifically for weapons testing, so the guy wasn't totally out of his rights to be blasting away there...after all, that's where everyone tells people to go that want to blast weapons, and there's plenty of no-weapons sandboxes in SL to build in.

Besides that though, the guy almost certainly was blowing smoke out his ass about how he couldn't get banned because he can supposedly pull strings with LL. That's roughly equal to somebody yelling out "You can't do this! I know the mayor! I'll have your asses fired!" as they're being carted off by the police for a DWI. Mmm-hmmm, gotcha buddy.

Anybody that really could pull strings at LL would more than likely be spending their time doing something a lot more productive than blasting people in a sandbox anyway.
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02-11-2006 10:50
By your own admission you were in a combat zone.
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02-11-2006 10:56
From: Tre Armistice
Don't get it, play with what.. weapons? Get burned?? weapons have never realy done nothing to me that really pisses me off or "burns" me. they do get a little annoying sometimes though... doesn't mean they shouldn't be there!

Linden or not. The LL company survives on us being here. If the right people find out it was an employee having fun at the company's expense. (possible lost income from people leaving or what have you) then his idea of not being banned will turn into getting fired.
Even if he was just a friend of a Linded. That "Linden friend" will be the one who's fired or whatever. In turn, no longer will that griever have someone to cry to when they get banned.
Of course unless it was Phil himself :eek: Noo he wouldn't.
:rolleyes: No matter who it is, it's like shooting themselves in the foot anyway.

And even if it was in a combat zone. The persons claim they can't get banned is the point I think he was making if I'm not reading something wrong.
Anyway. It's been known to happen in other games. Wouldn't surprize me that a linden makes an alt to go shoot up people. :rolleyes: People have done far worse.
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Tre Armistice
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02-11-2006 10:56
From: Osgeld Barmy
im not saying they shouldnt be there, but there seems to be an overall sterotype of the gun toting person in sl, and that is they are gonna kill anything that moves becuase they can

so when your dealing with this type what do you expect, even your new freind just out of the blue started shooting you, just becuase you were there


kk, i get what you are saying and i agree
Tre Armistice
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02-11-2006 10:58
From: Enabran Templar
Well... I don't really know what to tell you. The sim is called... "WEAPONS TESTING." Now, I don't know what message that sends to other people, but when I read that, I think "Oh, people will be testing their weapons there."

I don't know many weapons that actually allow you to shoot yourself. That sim is set as no-damage, so if you have a problem, all you have to do is sit down on a box and no one can bother you.


yeh but they can bother the ppl arounf you and bother your friends and, if you didn't know, words hurt and get me angry XD lol. I just am not the kind of person who can just sit by and watch some guy take out everyone in the whole dam sim for no reason.
Keara Vega
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Griefers In LL core?
02-12-2006 13:15
im not sure if i posted this right or not but since the sandbox is called weapon testing wouldnt that mean u should sstill ask before shooting the person like say if u were just building their since ur friends or friend was there and u got shot i say ask before shooting its much nicer and will stop ppl from being such jerks to each other even if it is a testing sandbox for weapons u should still ask before testing its common sense
Weedy Herbst
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02-12-2006 13:24
Shooting in the weapons test area is not a TOS violation, but proclaiming to have Linden representation is.
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Solar Shirakawa
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02-12-2006 13:25
That moron sounds like he needs a one way ticket back to the teen grid. Linden connections? Don't make me laugh. He sounds liek he needs a babysitter.
Torley Linden
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02-12-2006 13:28
I'd just like to add...

If someone makes a claim about having "Linden connections", ask 'em "Which Linden?", and suggest the both of you go to have a talk with that Linden to verify it ununilaterally. This tends to lead to some backing out and much chagrin on the part of the claimant, for obvious reasons. ;) When in doubt, go to the source. Ask questions. Find out for sure. But you can be assured that any vague speculation about inappropriate Linden behavior is almost certainly an untruth.

If you see exploding watermelons in the weapons testing sandbox owned by me, then yes, that's me. Everything in its right place.
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02-12-2006 13:33
I'd just like to point out the irony of someone who's making weapons, engaging in combat, in a sim called "WEAPONS TESTING" having the last name, "Armistice."

The only griefer in LL's core is Bub, and he's such a cute griefer.

That is all.

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Chance Abattoir
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02-12-2006 19:01
I know Torley Linden!!! You think the corn field is bad, I'll have your ass exiled to the watermelon patch! XD
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02-12-2006 19:51
Torley,
Your av colors are my yahoo messenger blend colors for text when I type. I love them.

I just felt I needed to share that. And surprisingly, I named it watermelon a longgg time ago, when I first created them.

I did a purple/green blend and named it grapes. I must have been craving fruit.
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02-12-2006 21:58
I thought the classic line "I know a Linden so they can't ban me" is included in SL Griefing for Dummies or something. One of the most creative applications I received was "i didnt get one bitch i know one of the lindens he goes to my school so im not gonne gert in any trouble hahahaha" :D

When I reported one of such newly born griefers I was told by a Linden that it's a big No-No to claim having Linden connections in such cases and to file another AR including the log. I have no idea what actually happned between the guy and LL but his name seems to be long gone from Find ever since.
Malicite Ash
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02-13-2006 01:00
From: Osgeld Barmy
i dont like weapons in sl

i dont make weapons in sl

i have been shot 3 times since ive been here (almost a year now)

hmmm

play with fire you might get burned?


I see where you are coming from I hate spontaneous griefers too, cept in combat, weapon test area as its goin to be natural. I dunno about you but I like weapons in SL they add to the creativity. No to be confused with things like hardbringer or "The hands of whatshisname" items that warp, launch you a billion feet into air than crash the program. other than that I like seeing ppl ideas and creative twist on weapons. I figure if ppl can make some sexed up machine then why cant I make a gun? Before you say it I know all about the "if you like guns so much then go play CS" Train of thought my response is if a game allowed you this kind of creative freedom then lead the way.