I Have Some Questions...

Hello!!!
I am new in SL, and I have some questions:

1. at the FIND menu -> Land Sales, the payment under "L$ PRICE" is monthly?
2. at the same menu... what are the titles "AREA" & "L$/sq.m." means?
2. can i buy land with a group? how? and hows the payment done?
3. traffic... how much money ill make by the traffic in my land?
4. i heard of the program "macro express" that prevent LOG OFF after 30 min... where can i find it?
5. i need money... what is your advise to get some? (and not the camping chairs... to low...)

thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!

Whew GaL, just a few questions....a couple of ways to make money.
1. Make a product and sell it to the masses.
2. Go to LindeX and buy some - the price is really good for buyers at the moment.
3. Go to games and win lindens
4. Go to money trees and pick some up.
5. Get a job, ya lazy welp! Sorry, was teasing, but some do get jobs in SL that help pay the bills.


Traffic is how many guests showed up on your land. Dwell is given accordingly and yes, that means a bit of money/lindens depending on the numbers that come to visit.

Group land, yes you can go in with others to put land together. Depending on how the group is set up depends on how much you have to contribute, how much your tier is, etc. Tier is all yours to pay so decide how much you can afford beforehand.

Under the FIND menu:
You can search by sq meters for land or by price. If you tier up for a 512 sq m.. search for that amount. If you have 10000000 lindens in your pocket, you can search for the amount as well.

Hope this helps to begin with.

No, that is the price of the land in Lindens. In addition to that price you need to pay tier in US$ to Linden Lab. But once you buy the land, it doesn't cost you anymore in lindens to keep it.

Area is the size of the land. $L/sqm is ratio of Lindens per sqm. So if the piece of land is 1000 square meters and the price is 4000 Linden, the $L/sqm is 4.

Dunno really. But I think you buy land as an individual and then deed it to a group. Be sure you understand how group land works fully before you do it.

Probably not much. It's a nice little bonus, but it really isn't much compared to what you pay to buy the land and the cost of tier. For instance, my combined traffic for my property seems to fluctuate between 600 and 1500 and my daily dwell is between 20-60 linden. So on a good day I guess I make 20 cents.

Maybe at Slexchange.com. Is something like this against the TOS? I'm not sure, but I think it should be.


Buy lindens when you start out, if you can afford it. Use lindex. $20 will almost buy 6,000 linden right now which is more than enough to get you going.

If you intend to get a premium account, be sure to buy First Land. It's definitely the best value you will probably get for land in Second Life.

Welcome to Second Life!

1. at the FIND menu -> Land Sales, the payment under "L$ PRICE" is monthly?
No, that is the one-time purchase price. If you area Premium Member and own no other land, you can buy 512 M2 of land without incurring any additional monthly fees beyond your Premium membership fees. Additional land beyond that costs more per month to hold. For example, your second 512 M2 is an additioanl $5 USD per month, over and above the purchase price. Also, there is a one-time option on new Premium accoints to purchase 'First Land', and get 512 M2 of land for just L$512. But it has to be land designated as 'First Land' by LL, and it has to be the first piece of land your account ever buys.

2. at the same menu... what are the titles "AREA" & "L$/sq.m." means?
Area = how many square meters is the plot of land.
L$/sq.m = purchase price, in Lindens, per square meter

3. can i buy land with a group? how? and hows the payment done?
I'l let someone else answer that...

4. traffic... how much money ill make by the traffic in my land?
Very little. I hold 1024 M2 and get about L$1 to L$5 per day, depending on how many visitors I get. Really popular places get more, but not much.

5. i heard of the program "macro express" that prevent LOG OFF after 30 min... where can i find it?
That is a violation of the Terms of Service, or at the very least an ethical violation, as it's only purpose is to keep you 'logged in' while you aren't really playing the game. For example, to be a dwell-zombie, or to remain in a camping chair unattended. Don't do it.

6. i need money... what is your advise to get some? (and not the camping chairs... to low...)

Learn a useful skill. Learn how to make things people want to buy, such as clothes, buildings, vehicles... I know several prople who came to SL, who have been in the game only a few weeks, who have applied themselves and learned how to build and script useful things, and who were, withing weeks of their arrival, making over L$1000 in a week selling what they created.

Perform a useful service. Find something you are willing to do that people will pay you to do. This might range form being a sales representative for a merchant, and helping their customers, to being a dancer or DJ in a club, to, at what I personally consider below the reasonable end of the spectrum, being an 'escort', and selling 'ahem' personal services.

This is good advice.

Hi Gal. Welcome to SL.


That's the one time cost to buy the property, the amount the current owner is selling it for.


Area is the physical size of the parcel of land in square meters.

L$/sq.m. is pretty straight forward. It literally means exactly what it suggests. It's simply the price divided by the area, or in other words, the amount of Linden Dollars (L$) you'd pay for each square meter (sq.m.) if you bought the land. This is useful to see at a glance how much of a bargain you're getting. For example, if you buy 1024 square meters L$16 per square meter, you're obviously getting a much better deal than if you bought 16 square meters at L$1024 per square meter. You'd pay the same total either way, but the first way gives you 64 times as much land as the second way.


Yes, you can buy land for your group. How to handle payment is up to the individuals in the group. The way we do it in Indigo is one person technically is the "owner" who pays LL directly. The rest of us pay him for our shares via Paypal.



At the beginning of each day, every avatar in SL has one "traffic point" to spend. Every place they spend more than 5 minutes in on any given day gets a fraction of that point. Add up all those little numbers at the end of the day for each avatar that visits your land, and that's your traffic for the day. I don't know the forumula by which they determine exactly how much traffic = how many L$. Living on group owned land, as I do, it's not always easy to see the correlation since the money is split among the whole group.



I never heard of Macro Express before, but the first thing that came up when I Googled for it was this: http://www.macros.com/

I'd imagine people use it to enter a keystroke every 29 minutes or so, to reset the 30 minute timer. That having been said, please use any such device with caution and always with concern for your fellow SL'ers. If you're gonna be away from your keyboard, log out. There's no reason to stay logged in if you don't need to be. Every single person who's logged in consumes a certain amount of network resources, slowing down the world. Every person who's logged in unnecessarily is causing undue lag for everyone else, and that's not fair.


Same as RL, either start a business or work for someone else. If that's not something you want to do, then you can always buy L$ from Lindex, from anshechung.com, or from a number of other sources. The exchange rate hovers around $1 US for L$250.

wow, that was fast... 3 ansers in 10 min! thanks!!!

I am actually think to upgrade to premium... but before that i want to earn money to pay from the game money and not from my credit card... ok... my father credit card

where can i find a job?

NP. You'll find that SL people for the most part are the friendliest folks on the internet. There are a few notable exceptions, of course, but generally speaking, SL is chock full of the nicest people you'll ever meet. That's why I'm still here after 2+ years.


Careful. When you say "my father's credit card", that almost sounds like an "I'm under 18" message. If you are indeed underage, you'll need to move to the teen grid, and it would be best to 'fess up to LL now while you can still call it a mistake. Otherwise, there could be consequences. The last underage person I met who tried to keep it secret ended up getting banned. LL pretty much always finds out. I have no idea how, but they do.

If I'm assuming too much, and you're actually an adult, then I apologize. Just wanted to make sure the bases were covered.


Have you looked at the classifieds?

And therein lies the undesirable fallout of Dwell and traffic rankings. The craze in many sims right now are "camping chairs" which pay you for the amount of time you sit in one place. Subscribers are gaming it by seating their avatar, running a macro to avoid being auto-logged, and then going afk. Sometimes for an entire day or night or both.

It reinforces the notion that Dwell is a useless, outdated concept today. This is a counterproductive outcome of the idea. It also artificially inflates the traffic numbers that show up on Find, but I'd be surprised if that's significant.

i am 23 actually
i am from Israel, and i cant use my vise for that, so my father done it for me...

Making money. There are a few ways.
Most make and sell stuff, but that seems to be a common thing and markets are flooded. If you do that you'll need to find a market that others can't take to easy.
If that market is full, like clothing, then it needs a different edge to the product for it to sell and be noticed. Your own vision or style that others can't seem to copy to easy will be your selling point probably. And even if someone can copy it, it's still not the same.
But the more complex something is in design then that won't happen as much.

Anyway if that isn't your taste, and you still want big money from SL, then there are jobs that pay a good amount of lindens for the right skills. It's more like a real job though.

I have camped a lot in the past and it can be a way to make a bit of cash if you have an extra compture or two. It requires the right computer(s), software like you said, and situation. (Like free utilities/electric if you live in an appartment.)

Camping can still get you a lot. Even though the market has gone down.
I pulled over US$300 during one month while a price war for the camp chairs was going on and a few chairs were around $L5 per 10 minutes.
But it's dropped along with the L$ market.

Average chairs now pay L$2 per 10 minutes.
But the math is still simple:

2 x 6 = L$12 per hour
L$ 12 x 5 alt accounts = L$60 an hour
$L60 x 24 hours = L$1440 per day
L$1440 x 7 days = L$10080 per week
L$10080 x 4 weeks = L$40320 per month = US$129.69 (@ a low of L$300 per US$1)

Minus server down time a person can still add US$100 to their monthly income.
That may not be much. But for leaving a computer on it can be a lot for some people in the right situation.
I know a few collage students living on that much a month. lol

I think camping needs to change to something more realistic though. Like that modeling clothing for a store instead of sitting around it maybe.
But in any case, low or not, a person can still pay their own money to someone else for any reason they want. It's part of SL's freedom.

Bah! Anyway.
I wouldn't suggest camping because it can be a hassel if you don't already have the right setup.
But even camping to play a few casino games someone puts out, just to help cut back the loss you get, seems realistic to me. Even if you break even. The owner gets a listing bonus for that time you spent playing. Seems like a fair trade. A lot of people just hate seeing it.

On the other note. The in-world "Job" market lists are sadly lacking.
But you can find them on the forums here.
It's not obvious to new people and I think that is sad. Some had an idea to make a temp agency job service in SL but I haven't heard much from it. It probably just needs time to prove itself.

There is, of course, jobs like scripting and graphic arts. If your skilled in one of those that can make you some good cash. But you could get more from a real life job using those same skills. lol

There is also hosting at clubs or other places which pay about L$500 (US$1.60) per event? And I think events go about 3 hours on average? I can't remember but it was something around that.
And people think campers are crazy for letting the comptuer do the work.
No if it's fun like a hobby or something then that is a different story. Nothing wrong with a hobby that pays back.
I just can't see that as being fun personally. Campers at least get to spend the time doing other things. Like making textures. And when you get back you find a little money to pay for the uploads. Camping chairs pay for developers? Well maybe those who are just getting started. Until those uploads sell themseves in some way or another.
It is a lot easier to buy L$ for those reasons. lol

Anyway, if you still need to stay logged in for some reason or another, then I can send you a notecard with the info and how to use the stuff. There are different things you can look at depending on your situation and computer setup.

There are of course simple things you can do. Like tape down an arrow key. I think that works still but I'm not sure. Good o'l duck-tape. Heheh.
Or train the cat to attack the mouse every 10 minutes. That might actually require a lot of work though.

If you just need one avi to stay online then I would suggest something like MouseMove 1.0
It's simple enough and explains itself. I think it's still @ download.com
It has an auto off switch if the mouse goes to the top left corner of the screen though. You have to do a little trick with a shortcut to get into a setup screen and take that off. If you know what the taskmanager is then it won't be a problem. It's readme should explain it. Basically the taskmanager is the only alternative way to turn it off. lol
I'm sure someone else has an easier program to mess with for a single client. But it works.

:addition: Another reason to use this might be to staying logged in just because it is easier than logging out. Beats the log-in lag too. I can just jump on and go.

If buying Lindens isn't a good option. Learn to play some of the various free games like Tringo, Blood 21 and Quintzee. At first I thought these were gambling games and I steered clear. But these are usually free games with a voluntary pot that goes to the winner. I ended up making several thousand Linden playing Tringo when I first started playing. They can be fun games to play--lot more enjoyable and more sociable than camping.