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Kale Sterling
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07-22-2006 19:26
Hello to everyone,
I have never posted on the boards before. But something has realy started to aggrivate me to no end. I am sure it is to others as well.
Many times I have been shopping in numerous stores. Saw something that would be great for my wife. "such as outfits" I buy it just to find out, the item is no transfer. No signs anywhere saying no transfer items.
Is there any possible way for sallers to agree to put up NO transfer signs up. We all have been to r/l stores and got very annoyed when we think something is misrepresented to us. I see this as the same way.
I think Your customers would be happier, would return to your shops more.
Thank you
Kale
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Axel Truss
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07-22-2006 19:30
maybe look @ the properties of what your buying, unless from a networked vendor then im all for your idea!
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Fmeh Tagore
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07-22-2006 19:32
I'm just trying to think of items in real life that you can't give or sell to someone. I just can't think of any.
I just choose not to frequent establishments that I find out sell things like this.
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Hana Timtam
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Join date: 11 Apr 2006
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07-22-2006 19:49
From: Kale Sterling Hello to everyone,
I have never posted on the boards before. But something has realy started to aggrivate me to no end. I am sure it is to others as well.
Many times I have been shopping in numerous stores. Saw something that would be great for my wife. "such as outfits" I buy it just to find out, the item is no transfer. No signs anywhere saying no transfer items.
Is there any possible way for sallers to agree to put up NO transfer signs up. We all have been to r/l stores and got very annoyed when we think something is misrepresented to us. I see this as the same way.
I think Your customers would be happier, would return to your shops more.
Thank you
Kale i posted this is another thread... but.. i'll repeat it here ^-^
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But for your concern about knowing for "certain" if something is Mod/Copy/Trans before you buy, that's EASY so long as you can "Buy" the item and not "PAY". With "Pay" you can't know for certain. But any item that you can "Buy" you can tell.
Just select "Buy" from the Pie Menu... and you can "see" the contents of what you are buying... you can usually see an item list. The way the items are marked in there tells you the permissions for the item.
Ex: ~ tiger sofa (no trans) tiger chair (no copy)(no modify) ~
Though you have to be careful doing this since if you hit the Enter key or something by accident you might buy the item... so you have to be careful to click "cancel" or whatever. Maybe some more convenient way would be nice.
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Cinthya Vavoom
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Join date: 11 Mar 2006
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07-22-2006 19:51
From: Kale Sterling Hello to everyone,
I have never posted on the boards before. But something has realy started to aggrivate me to no end. I am sure it is to others as well.
Many times I have been shopping in numerous stores. Saw something that would be great for my wife. "such as outfits" I buy it just to find out, the item is no transfer. No signs anywhere saying no transfer items.
Is there any possible way for sallers to agree to put up NO transfer signs up. We all have been to r/l stores and got very annoyed when we think something is misrepresented to us. I see this as the same way.
I think Your customers would be happier, would return to your shops more.
Thank you
Kale If the thing your buying is one thats buy not pay, if you look at the content it will say on the pieces no transfer if its a notransfer. Same for mod and copy it will say no copy or no mod if its not modable or copyable. All prim outfitts and arm spikes and so on that I make are all transferable and modable but no copy. so people will never have a problem giving any of my deisngs to someone as a gift.
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Kale Sterling
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Join date: 27 May 2006
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07-22-2006 20:07
Thank you for the tips, on buying. But why does a customer have to do this? Why does the buyer the customer buying items from a store. Have to check this or that to see if it is no transfer?
It is not good practice on the part of a seller to make shopping easy and quick for customers?
How hard is it just to put a 1 prim sign up that says No Transfer. That's it. How hard is this? To keep the customer from getting mad and not coming back to shop.
I should say every item I have got hit with the no transfer was from vendor machines. I should also say some do add no transfer to the pics in the vendor machines. I thank those merchants for doing that.
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Kale Sterling
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07-22-2006 20:18
From: Cinthya Vavoom If the thing your buying is one thats buy not pay, if you look at the content it will say on the pieces no transfer if its a notransfer. Same for mod and copy it will say no copy or no mod if its not modable or copyable.
All prim outfitts and arm spikes and so on that I make are all transferable and modable but no copy. so people will never have a problem giving any of my deisngs to someone as a gift. Thank you Cinthya for doing that. I would buy and return to buy more from your shop. I am sure many other customers would as well. Thank you, for thinking about your customers needs.
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Cinthya Vavoom
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07-22-2006 20:20
From: Kale Sterling Thank you for the tips, on buying. But why does a customer have to do this? Why does the buyer the customer buying items from a store. Have to check this or that to see if it is no transfer?
It is not good practice on the part of a seller to make shopping easy and quick for customers?
How hard is it just to put a 1 prim sign up that says No Transfer. That's it. How hard is this? To keep the customer from getting mad and not coming back to shop.
I should say every item I have got hit with the no transfer was from vendor machines. I should also say some do add no transfer to the pics in the vendor machines. I thank those merchants for doing that. Well for me and my stuff In the info I put mod transfer and no copy so people can know just by reading boxs. thats me alot of people don't do that.
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Lynn Kukulcan
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07-22-2006 20:24
Usually, I see that "no transfer" is something that's copyable. As for why a maker of clothes would want the user to copy the clothes is beyond me. That being said, I use a vendor that is copy/mod/no transfer. I can understand why they don't want me giving it away.
Most cases they will tell you, although I have seen quite a few where they do not. And I agree that this can be irritating.
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Shack Dougall
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07-22-2006 20:36
From: Lynn Kukulcan Usually, I see that "no transfer" is something that's copyable. As for why a maker of clothes would want the user to copy the clothes is beyond me. I don't buy a lot of clothes, so I'm no expert, but I believe that copy is useful for clothes so that you can use them in more than one outfit.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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07-22-2006 20:50
Colorable clothes are often no-transfer, as are things that might need adjusting (flexiprims, etc).
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Jack Harker
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07-22-2006 20:58
From: Shack Dougall I don't buy a lot of clothes, so I'm no expert, but I believe that copy is useful for clothes so that you can use them in more than one outfit. Something that SL could really use in an inventory pointer, sort of like a book mark, that will allow you drag and drop a pointer to a particular inventory item to a new folder, so that you can make up "outfit" folders and the like without having to have a complete seperate copy of the artical of clothing in that folder. Something like this would also reduce the load on the serves that control inventory if done right. It would, IMO, also increase sales by making both sides of the clothing permissions issue happy. The people who want copyable items for making up seperate outfits would be happy, and so would the people who won't buy no transfer because they're buying gifts, or because they want the option to pass the outfit on to a friend if they get tired of it, or have an alt, or find that it just doesnt suit them once it's actually *on*. Hm, now that makes me thing of something else that could be useful. "Temp" clothing. Articals of clothing that you can get that auto-delete after 15-20 minutes. This would be *really* useful for people who want to try on an outfit to see if it suits them before buying it. However, we don't really get practical, useful features like this on updates, instead we get stuff like this bone-headed change in functions for the enter key, or the annoying new pie menu. Oh, and rounded top corners on the friends on-line pop-up. Now *that's* useful, and so much better a use of the coders time than any of the ideas mentioned above.
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Doubledown Tandino
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07-22-2006 21:03
From: Kale Sterling Is there any possible way for sallers to agree to put up NO transfer signs up. We all have been to r/l stores and got very annoyed when we think something is misrepresented to us. I see this as the same way. When have you gone to a RL store and bought something that did not have a description? If the storeowner isn't smart enough to put signs up with item descriptions, why buy it?
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Fade Languish
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07-22-2006 21:05
From: Fmeh Tagore I'm just trying to think of items in real life that you can't give or sell to someone. I just can't think of any. I just choose not to frequent establishments that I find out sell things like this. In real life, you can't make unlimited copies of the item to resell. There are many things which need to be copy to be fully useful to people, hence they are no transfer. Things like hair are usually copy/no transfer, anything you'll want to mod to fit or suit, or even make mutliple copies for different outfits. There's things I won't buy unless they come copy, which has to mean no transfer in a commercial product. People are setting their permissions according to the needs of the buyer, and their need to protect their product. The permissions system is kinda limited, people are working with what they've got. Usually though, you can IM the creator, and get them to transfer the product, if it's a gift, and in some cases, if it's feasible, and you're not concerned about copies, some are willing to sell you no copy/transfer versions... but mostly, for things set as copy/no transfer, you want it to be copyable more than you care about being able to pass it along when you're done.
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Cindy Claveau
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07-22-2006 21:07
I'm selling a line of prim skirts that are Mod/Copy/No Transfer.
With prim outfits, it's impossible to build prim clothing that will fit all avatars since everyone's butt, waist, shoulders, etc., are different sizes. Thus, the "modify".
I make t hem "Copy" so that, as another poster mentioned, pieces of the outfits can be used in more than one outfit. Also, I want to offer my customers a way to back up the prims before they edit them to fit.
These items are No-Transfer because they are Copy. I don't want customers giving away unlimited copies of items I worked to create.
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Fenrir Reitveld
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07-22-2006 21:08
Don't forget vehicles. Or anything that moves and might get away from you. Or crash and get in some weird, inconsistant state.
I simply would not buy a vehicle if it was nocopy seeing how SL's physics system is good at losing stuff...
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Fade Languish
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07-22-2006 21:11
From: Fenrir Reitveld Don't forget vehicles. Or anything that moves and might get away from you. Or crash and get in some weird, inconsistant state. I simply would not buy a vehicle if it was nocopy seeing how SL's physics system is good at losing stuff... Oh yeah, you want copyable vehicles. Especially if I'm driving.
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Allana Dion
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07-22-2006 21:17
From: Fmeh Tagore I'm just trying to think of items in real life that you can't give or sell to someone. I just can't think of any.
I just choose not to frequent establishments that I find out sell things like this. Underwear. You really shouldn't give away your used underwear. 
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Phedre Aquitaine
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07-22-2006 22:00
From: Allana Dion Underwear. You really shouldn't give away your used underwear.  Hmmm. Vending machines dispensing used panties.... *contemplates*
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Fade Languish
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07-22-2006 22:08
From: Phedre Aquitaine Hmmm. Vending machines dispensing used panties.... *contemplates* I saw something in ID magazine once... they had vending machines, in Japan, that had panties that purported to be fresh off a schoolgirl, together with a photo of the girl.
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Cinthya Vavoom
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07-22-2006 22:08
From: Phedre Aquitaine Colorable clothes are often no-transfer, as are things that might need adjusting (flexiprims, etc). All of my prim and flexie prim stuff are transferable but its all no copy the only Copyable version of one of my outfitts is one I gave to a Linden, and thats because I don't have to worry about a Linden doing me wrong.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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07-22-2006 22:24
From: Fade Languish I saw something in ID magazine once... they had vending machines, in Japan, that had panties that purported to be fresh off a schoolgirl, together with a photo of the girl. That's what I was thinking of.
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Allana Dion
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07-22-2006 22:31
From: Fade Languish I saw something in ID magazine once... they had vending machines, in Japan, that had panties that purported to be fresh off a schoolgirl, together with a photo of the girl. *drops head on desk*
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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07-22-2006 23:43
My swords all come in either mod/copy/no transfer or mod/transfer/no copy, your choice, and are clearly marked in their vendor according to what they are. Just thought I'd mention that. 
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Darkfoxx Bunyip
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07-23-2006 02:54
From: Kale Sterling Thank you for the tips, on buying. But why does a customer have to do this? *facepalms* You want to know exactly what you are buying, don't you? IRL I work as customer support for consumer electronics, and the idiocy of some people, who clearly don't pay attention to what the hell they are buying, ticks me off... if there is no way of telling what permissions a product has, you IM the store owner or ask one of the store's personell about it. Buying something to 'see what it is' is something I wouldn't reccoment to anyone. Not sure what you're buying or if you can give it away? Don't buy it! As a rule, most items you can buy (especially AV's or clothing) are non transfer.
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