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Sensual Casanova
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05-08-2006 23:23
New changes to Land Auctions, what will the land barons do now? I know some of them like to default on auction... Discuss?

From: someone
Changes to Land Auction Delivery

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In our continuing efforts to simplify the land purchasing transactions, streamline our operations, and reduce our exposure to risk, we are making the following three changes to the land auction delivery process.

First, upon winning a US dollar auction, the winning Resident will be billed within 24 hours using their payment method on file. If no valid payment method is available the winning bid amount will applied to the Resident's balance due.

Upon winning a Linden dollar auctions, regardless of current balance, Residents will have the appropriate number of Lindens deducted from their accounts. Residents may have a resulting negative L$ balance.

Second, the Resident's new total square meter commitment (including the newly won auction land) will be used to determine if the Resident needs to be moved into a new tier. If a new tier is required, the Resident will automatically be moved to the new tier level.

Lastly, the parcel associated with the won auction will be transferred immediately to the new owner. The owner is no longer required to go in-world and purchase the land for L$ 0.

Also, when an auction closes, a summary email is sent to the winner notifying them of the transaction when it occurs.

More information on these changes can be found in the Auction FAQ:
http://secondlife.com/auctions/faq.php

We plan on launching this new system on May 9, 2006, all auctions completed after this time will be held to the new system.
Darkness Anubis
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05-08-2006 23:34
I am concerned about this part

First, upon winning a US dollar auction, the winning Resident will be billed within 24 hours using their payment method on file. If no valid payment method is available the winning bid amount will applied to the Resident's balance due.

Does this mean we can't use existing US dollar balances in our accounts now to pay things? WIll things automatically go to our credit cards even if we have pleanty in US$ on our account?
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05-08-2006 23:36
From: Darkness Anubis
I am concerned about this part

First, upon winning a US dollar auction, the winning Resident will be billed within 24 hours using their payment method on file. If no valid payment method is available the winning bid amount will applied to the Resident's balance due.

Does this mean we can't use existing US dollar balances in our accounts now to pay things? WIll things automatically go to our credit cards even if we have pleanty in US$ on our account?

my suggestion would be take your CC off your account if you would rather pay it with your existing balance
Darkness Anubis
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05-08-2006 23:39
From: Sensual Casanova
my suggestion would be take your CC off your account if you would rather pay it with your existing balance


Thats how I read it too. Makes keeping a US$ ballance useless I would think. Not to mention an unecessary risk.
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05-08-2006 23:40
From: Darkness Anubis
Thats how I read it too. Makes keeping a US$ ballance useless I would think. Not to mention an unecessary risk.

well not uselless, you can still pay your tier with it if you have no other recorded method of payment, but it is certainly a risk..
Karsten Rutledge
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05-09-2006 00:14
From: Darkness Anubis
I am concerned about this part

First, upon winning a US dollar auction, the winning Resident will be billed within 24 hours using their payment method on file. If no valid payment method is available the winning bid amount will applied to the Resident's balance due.

Does this mean we can't use existing US dollar balances in our accounts now to pay things? WIll things automatically go to our credit cards even if we have pleanty in US$ on our account?


I imagine that if you ask, it'll turn out that they look to your balance first like they do for all other transactions. The announcement probably isn't literal. Would be good to find out though, maybe a hotline post.
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Dana Bergson
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05-09-2006 00:28
Makes perfect sense for me! *claps hands*

Many of these changes make it much harder to play dirty tricks at the auctions.
From: Darkness Anubis
First, upon winning a US dollar auction, the winning Resident will be billed within 24 hours using their payment method on file. If no valid payment method is available the winning bid amount will applied to the Resident's balance due.

Does this mean we can't use existing US dollar balances in our accounts now to pay things? WIll things automatically go to our credit cards even if we have pleanty in US$ on our account?
This is the phrasing already used today on some web pages and emails you receive, when you win an auction. Still, Linden Lab always charges any amount due to the current balance. The "payment method on file" is only used when this balance is drained.
Frans Charming
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05-09-2006 02:40
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Upon winning a Linden dollar auctions, regardless of current balance, Residents will have the appropriate number of Lindens deducted from their accounts. Residents may have a resulting negative L$ balance.


I wonder if you will be able to bid on a auction and win when your account is allready negative. If you can, you will be able to buy land freely on the auction, and transfer it to your other accounts to use or sell. Without ever having to pay for it.
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05-09-2006 04:51
From: Karsten Rutledge
I imagine that if you ask, it'll turn out that they look to your balance first like they do for all other transactions. The announcement probably isn't literal. Would be good to find out though, maybe a hotline post.


Actually I did hotline post it first but it remains unanswered. ;)
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Billy Grace
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05-09-2006 09:42
I don't see how these changes will affect Land Barons at all. They look good to me.
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05-09-2006 09:53
From: Billy Grace
I don't see how these changes will affect Land Barons at all. They look good to me.

Because a certian someone used to buy sims, then default on them, which let her/him only pay t he $25 and would cause other people to lose tha auction. So then it would get cycled again to go to auction. Now, instead of that, she/he has to pay and tiers up when they but a sim.

Edit: But yes, this is a good thing.
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Billy Grace
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05-09-2006 10:01
From: nimrod Yaffle
Because a certian someone used to buy sims, then default on them, which let her/him only pay t he $25 and would cause other people to lose tha auction. So then it would get cycled again to go to auction. Now, instead of that, she/he has to pay and tiers up when they but a sim.

Edit: But yes, this is a good thing.

That won't change. I am quite sure you could still call LL and have the auction canceled due to an error. I did it once bc of a bid with one too many zeros.

LL will not let anyone repetedly do this so if you are saying that some "Land Baron" was using this as a tactic, it would only be allowed a couple of times, then LL wouldn't approve of the sale being busted.

Anyways, lumping all "Land Barons" together with idiots that use these practices is short sighted, to say it nicely. There are many reputable, honest "Land Barons" who do not do anything of this sort.

These changes still won't change a thing from the "Land Baron's" perspectice.
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05-09-2006 10:11
From: Billy Grace
That won't change. I am quite sure you could still call LL and have the auction canceled due to an error. I did it once bc of a bid with one too many zeros.

LL will not let anyone repetedly do this so if you are saying that some "Land Baron" was using this as a tactic, it would only be allowed a couple of times, then LL wouldn't approve of the sale being busted.

Anyways, lumping all "Land Barons" together with idiots that use these practices is short sighted, to say it nicely. There are many reputable, honest "Land Barons" who do not do anything of this sort.

These changes still won't change a thing from the "Land Baron's" perspectice.

You are right I think it will benefit MOST land barons, except the shady ones that like to default on auctions.... But this is certainly a good move from LL, and should have been done long ago...
Schwanson Schlegel
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05-09-2006 10:14
This will mean that you will not be able to claim a auction sim that you won at your convenience (when you have sufficient tier). The automated system will automatically tier you up. I think this will impact anyone who juggles multiple sim tiers.
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