Cheating Casinos

In SL, the house always wins... more often than not. There is absolutely nothing stopping a casino from using automated gambling games that cheat. A naive player may think that the gambling games here follow strict rules as in real life, but any script kiddie can tweak a game so that the player is cheated out of a lot of money.

Without any regulation, you can never trust a game whose source code you can't see. I suspect that a few of the games in SL are cheating, and after talking with others, I'm not the only one who suspects this. Keep this in mind: a smart black jack player will win a little under half of the games even if the deck is shuffled every game. You'll find that in a lot of black jack games in SL, that's far from norm.

Furthermore, the whole legality of gambling in Second Life is dubious at best since LL advertises, facilitates, and profits (through fees) from the exchanging of lindens to dollars. Several states in the US have anti-gambling laws that address this very scenario, and my state's attorney general is already aware of what's going on.

But the legality aside, I urge players to steer clear from automated gambling games unless you can see the actual code the machines are running (as in viewing the scripts live from the gambling machine while the machine is executing, something most entrepreneuring script kiddies aren't likely to allow.)

I've previously put forward the idea that there could be a group of scripters that would review the code for gambling devices, and indicate whether they thought it corresponded to the claims being made for it.

However I suspect that that would be impracticable, since (a) there would be great suspicion as to the bribability of the scripters concerned and (b) there is little guarantee that the script in a machine is actually the same one that has been checked.

I wouldn't give L$1 to a gambling machine personally, but at least in casinos you know you will not lose more money than you pay the thing. The real danger is from machines which request debit permission. I wouldn't touch them with yours.

I quite agree with you jamin, and this is why any public sort of gambling game is banned from my sims, at least.

The Company may allow the mainland to be a haven of such activities, as is their choice to make. So too, many private sim owners. But certainly not everyone does.




Another danger of casinos is this: people *assume* the casino owner has enough capital on hand to pay out a jackpot.

I have heard of more than a few situations in Second Life - the jackpot may amount to little more than a sad tale of woe and some dubious promises of future payment by the casino owner.

Who could just as easily transfer everything to an alt, and simply vanish, than pay up.

I've found the cheating in SL is even more blatant than obscure bits of code. For instance, a machine that says it'll raise the rate on your camping chair if you get a blackjack... and then doesn't. Or a machine that says 'you won, here's your money!' and then doesn't pay you. Or my favorite, a blackjack machine that says the house always hits on 16 and stands on 17... and then doesn't follow its own rule. I mean come on, if you want to cheat you should make it look like the dealer drew a different card, it's too obvious if you stand on 15!

Can anyone reccomend a casino where the odds are fair?

Here's the thing, and I totally support there being fair games in SL. When you walk into a Mcdonalds and eat 5 cheeseburgers, 3 fries and drink 2 shakes...is it your responsability then that you get heavier? Or have med. conditions b/c of your eating habits? Well...some people didn't think it should be THEIR responsability and blammed Mcd's themselves...

Now, when we walk into a SIM and see a slot machine, put in 100l and lose it all... do we have the right to say, I want my money back, this game is rigged? I don't think it's right at all to be ripped off by any game or owner in game, but doesn't this fall under the whole "Buyer Beware" sorta clause? I don't mean any of this to sound out of line..tha'ts just how I see it I guess, so who am I to question them, it's their machines right?


-Addi

When I went to Vegas, I ate a lot at the good buffet places, I saw a lot of good entertainment, and didn't spend even one cent for gambling. I've always felt gambling is foolish. For those that want to go do something where the odds are always against them and spend a huge sum of money, if you want to chance it, that's your own problem--if they actually get more back than they put in, then more power to them, but it's an extreme rarity. It's a reality that even in RL gambling in Vegas, the odds are ALWAYS against you--why would gambling in SL be any different? I agree with Addison: Buyer beware.

If your looking for some honest slots
The Slot machines at the Promenade mall are owned by my alt Aimee Xia and I keep 20,000 L$ in that account at all times. ALL jack pots are also backed by this account also should the 20 K not be sufficient. The slots are Moonshine Herb slots witch witch have been around a long time and have never been suspect of cheating.

I have heard of many casinos that cheat and its just awful and there is really no reason to cheat any way the odds will always be with the house but there will be the occasional winner and that's great. I actually had one of my progressive slots go up to 25000 L$ jackpot and it paid out immeditally when it was won.

There are some casinos that cheat. But there are also some that are honest. How do you tell the differance? That is really hard to do. I will talk around. See what others think of a place. That is really all that can be done. If I where asked, I would say either goto Sapphire Moon Casino or Heisenberg Casino. I have never heard anything bad about these 2 places and I know that they will pay out jackpots when you win them.

I have to agree with the last poster on casinos if u really must gamble (you can lose kids)
then shappire moon is a pretty good bet! Excuse the poor pun
And Plexor ( The owner has the bankroll to payout )

I know I have take over 200 thousand linden from the moon in the last few days.

Equally over time i have probably lost just as much.

You could go on for hours about statistics,chance bad/good scripting etc etc

But one thing is universal IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE .. DONT PLAY!

Me i likes a few hands of blackjack win or lose

Gambling, IMHO, is a very stupid way to lose money.

A better way would be by giving it to Me! =^.^=
Come on peeps, foxie needs to buy new clothing! Give generously, and I will guaratee that with me, you will *always* win!

It is much wiser to own an honest casino than it is to be a person that gambles.

Real drugs are already in your brain. There are various ways to get at them, the natural ways require positive life effort.

The perception of winning releases a combination of chemicals
which produce temporary euphoria followed by a sensation
of well being whose active agent is very similar to morphine.
Sex achieves a similar chemical reaction.

In terms of effort gambling is a cheap way to win.
Gambling is addictive.

In terms of money it is not a cheap way to win.

Any way you look at it in real terms it is a set game.

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something about a fool and his money...