what's up with 11/30?

(or 30/11, so as not to make Lewis disheartened by being forced to use a different date standard).

Anyway, if you haven't noticed - if you don't put your birthday in your forum profile, it stays at the default, Novemeber 30th. Why then? Could we have a vote on it? Don't you think it's sort of cheapening the people with actual birthdays on that date? Should we have a huge party? Celebrate all the defaults, along with these people?


November 30, 1978 Clay Aiken, American Musician
November 30, 1976 Shaneika Lightbourne, Miss Universe-Turks and Caicos 1996
November 30, 1975 Mindy McCready, country/western singer
November 30, 1974 Luther Broughton, HB for the Philadelphia Eagles
November 30, 1974 Marcellus Wiley, defensive end for the Buffalo Bills
November 30, 1973 Jay Hamilton, CFL running back for the Edmonton Eskimos
November 30, 1973 Ty Howard, cornerback for the Arizona Cardinals
November 30, 1972 Adeline Ong, Miss Universe-Malaysia 1996
November 30, 1972 Spence Fischer, WLAF quarterback for the Scotland Claymores
November 30, 1971 Bryan Proby, NFL/WLAF defensive tackle, Kansas City Chiefs, Scottish Claymores
November 30, 1971 Heath Te-Ihi-O-Te-Rangy Davis, cricket bowler, NZ open vs. England 1994
November 30, 1971 Ivan Rodriguez, Vega Baja Puerto Rico, catcher for the Texas Rangers
November 30, 1971 John Anderson, WLAF safety for the Rhein Fire
November 30, 1971 Ray Durham, Charlotte, North Carolina, infielder, Chicago White Sox
November 30, 1970 Corrina Kennedy, Saskatoon Saskatchawan, kayaker 1996 Olympics
November 30, 1970 Des'ree, rhythm and blues singer
November 30, 1970 James Brown, tackle for the Miami Dolphins
November 30, 1970 John DeWitt, WLAF defensive end for the Scottish Claymores
November 30, 1970 Mario Bailey, WLAF receiver for the Frankfurt Galaxy
November 30, 1970 Natalie Williams, born in Long Beach, California, volleyball outside hitter 1996 Olympics
November 30, 1970 Ricky Powers, WLAF running back for the Rhein Fire
November 30, 1970 Robert Griffith, NFL strong safety for the Minnesota Vikings
November 30, 1970 Yayuk Basuki, Yogyakarta Indonesia, tennis star, 1996 Hobart doubles
November 30, 1969 Carrie Jean Yazel, Huntington Beach California, playmate, May, 1991
November 30, 1969 Larry Brown, NFL cornerback, Dallas Cowboys, Oakland Raiders
November 30, 1969 Mark Lewis, Hamilton, Ohio, infielder for the Detroit Tigers
November 30, 1967 Gary Jones, NFL safety for the New York Jets
November 30, 1967 Margaret Platt, New York City, New York, golfer, 1995 Healthsouth-9th
November 30, 1966 Phillipe Bozon, hockey forward, Team France 1998
November 30, 1965 Ben Stiller, New York City, actor, Ben Stiller Show, Next of Kin, Cable Guy
November 30, 1965 Mike Zandofsky, NFL guard, Atlanta Falcons, Philadelphia Eagles
November 30, 1964 David Wood, NBA forward, Dallas Mavericks
November 30, 1962 Bo Jackson, baseball/football player, Kansas City Royals, Los Angeles Raiders
November 30, 1961 Innocent Egbunike, Nigeria, 4x400m runner 1984 Olympics bronze
November 30, 1960 Bob Tewksbury, Concord NH, pitcher for the San Diego Padres
November 30, 1960 Dan Rashovich, CFL linebacker for the Saskatchewan Roughriders
November 30, 1960 Danny Briggs, Abilene, Texas, Nike golfer, 1986 Tallahassee Open-6th
November 30, 1960 Gary Lineker, English soccer player, World Cup 1986
November 30, 1959 Sylvia Hanika, Munich West Germany, tennis player, Avon-1982
November 30, 1955 Andy Gray, English soccer player
November 30, 1955 Billy Idol, [William Broad], rocker, White Wedding
November 30, 1955 Brad Fabel, born in Louisville, Kentucky, Nike golfer, 1994 NIKE Gateway Classic
November 30, 1955 Kevin Conroy, Westport CT, actor, Tour of Duty, Another World
November 30, 1954 George McArdle, rock bassist (Little River Band Melbourne
November 30, 1954 June Pointer, singer, Pointer Sisters-I'm So excited
November 30, 1953 Mike Espy, Rep-D-Mississippi
November 30, 1953 Shuggie Otis, rocker
November 30, 1952 Mandy Patinkin, born in Chicago, Illinois, actor/singer, Yentl, Alien Nation
November 30, 1950 Greg Gordon, rock vocalist, Boys Band
November 30, 1950 Kathryn Witt, born in Miami, Florida, actress, Lenny, Pam-Flying High
November 30, 1950 Margaret Whitton, born in Baltimore, Maryland, actress, Good and Evil, Major League
November 30, 1950 Paul Westphal, NBA guard, Boston Celtics, Phoenix Suns
November 30, 1949 Arthur Lee Washington, Jr., Neptune, New Jersey, murderer, FBI Most Wanted
November 30, 1947 David Mamet, Chicago, playwright/dir, Speed the Plow, House of Games
November 30, 1946 Ken Wadsworth, cricket keeper, NZ dashing batsman
November 30, 1945 Michael Joyce, stage manager
November 30, 1945 Radu Lupu, Galati Romania, pianist, Enesco 1st prize-1967
November 30, 1945 Roger Glover, British hard rock bassist, Episode Six-Deep Purple
November 30, 1944 Dian Parkinson, [Dianna Lynn Batts], Camp LeJune, North Carolina, Miss USA, 1965
November 30, 1944 Luther T Ingram, U.S. singer and songwriter, I'll Be Your Shelter
November 30, 1944 Rob Grill, born in Los Angeles, California, rock bassist/vocalist, Grass Roots
November 30, 1943 J[ames] J[ay] Barnes, U.S. gospel/singer, Please Let Me In
November 30, 1943 Jerry Hunt, composer
November 30, 1943 Leo Lyons, Standbridge Beds, rock bassist, Ten Years After
November 30, 1943 M A M "Th˜s" Woltgens, Mayor, Kerkrade Neth
November 30, 1943 Oscar Harris, Surinames/Dutch singer, Try a Little Love
November 30, 1943 Terrence Malick, actress, Gail-Baywatch
November 30, 1943 Thijs [MAM] Woltgens, Dutch MP, PvdA
November 30, 1940 Glenn English, Rep-D-OK, 1975-
November 30, 1939 Walter Weller, Vienna Austria, conductor, Vienna Tonkustler Orch
November 30, 1937 Jimmy Bowen, rocker
November 30, 1937 Paul Stookey, Balt, singer, Peter, Paul and Mary-Wedding Song
November 30, 1937 Richard Threlkeld, newscaster, ABC-TV
November 30, 1937 Ridley Scott, director, Alien, Blade Runner
November 30, 1936 Abbie Hoffman, aka Free, Yippie/activist/author, Steal this Book
November 30, 1936 Michael Jinks, child care pioneer
November 30, 1933 Linwood C Ivey, North Carolina, Mayor-Garysburg NC
November 30, 1932 David Lincoln Lightbown, politician
November 30, 1931 Bill Walsh, NFL coach for the San Francisco 49ers/sportscaster
November 30, 1931 Gunther Herbig, Usti-nad-Labem Czechoslovakia, conductor, East Berlin Orch
November 30, 1931 Jack Ging, Alva, Oklahoma, actor, 11th Hour, Ripcord, Tales of Wells Fargo
November 30, 1931 Jack Sheldon, born in Jacksonville, Florida, actor, Run Buddy Run, Merv Griffin
November 30, 1930 G[eorge] Gordon Liddy, head CIA/ate a rat/Watergate felon/radio host
November 30, 1930 James Felton Boyd, Rocky Mount, North Carolina, light HW boxer 1956 Olympics gold
November 30, 1930 William H Dana, born in Pasadena, California, test pilot, X-15
November 30, 1929 Dick Clark, Mt Vernon, New York, TV Host, American Bandstand
November 30, 1929 Joan Ganz Cooney, born in Phoenix, Arizona, TV exec, Children's TV Workshop
November 30, 1929 G. Gordon Liddy, American Entertainer
November 30, 1928 Chic Hecht, Sen-R-NV, 1983-
November 30, 1927 Robert Guillaume, [Williams], born in St. Louis, Missouri, actor, Benson, Soap
November 30, 1926 Richard Crenna, LA Cal, actor, Rambo, Summer Rental, Sand Pebbles
November 30, 1925 Maxwell Street Jimmy Charles Davis Thomas, blues musician
November 30, 1924 Allan Sherman, parody singer and songwriter, Hello Muddah, Hello Fardah
November 30, 1924 Klaus Huber, composer
November 30, 1924 Shirley Chisholm, Rep-D-NY
November 30, 1922 Robert Evett, composer
November 30, 1920 Virginia Mayo, born in St. Louis, Missouri, actress, Out of the Blue, White Heat
November 30, 1919 Anne S Wadman, Frisian literary, Fioele and faem, Smearlappen
November 30, 1919 Jan Elburg, [Joannes G], Dutch poet, Through the Night
November 30, 1918 Efren Zimbalist, Jr., New York City, actor, 77 Sunset Strip, FBI, Scruples
November 30, 1916 Michael Gwynn, Bath England, actor, Village of Damned, Question 7
November 30, 1915 Angier Biddle Duke, New York City, U.S. Ambassador, Spain
November 30, 1915 Henry Taube, chemist, Nobel 1983
November 30, 1915 Walter Brown "Brownie" McGhee, blues singer/guitarist
November 30, 1914 Brownie McGhee, born in Knoxville, Tennessee, blues guitarist
November 30, 1913 John K M McCaffery, Moscow Idaho, TV host, One Minute Please
November 30, 1912 Constant Stotijn, Dutch oboist, Residence Orchestra
November 30, 1912 Gordon Parks, Ft. Scott, Kansas, film director/author, Learning Tree
November 30, 1910 Paul Cerutti, Monaco, trap shooter, disqualified for drugs in 76 oly
November 30, 1907 Gyorgy Ranki, composer
November 30, 1907 Jacques Barzun, France, author, The House of Interlect
November 30, 1906 Marina, princess of Greece/Denmark/husband of English prince George
November 30, 1904 Clyfford Still, U.S., abstract painter
November 30, 1904 Philip Burton, teacher/writer/dramatist
November 30, 1904 Philip H Burton, Welsh director/acting teacher, Richard Burton
November 30, 1903 Germaine Emilie Madame Gres Krebs, haute Couturist
November 30, 1900 Korneel Goossens, Flemish literature/art historian
November 30, 1899 Hans Krasa, Czech opera composer, Brundibar
November 30, 1898 Roy "Link" Lyman, NFL tackle for the Chicago Bears
November 30, 1898 Millicent Carey McIntosh, American Educator
November 30, 1897 Andreas Nezertis, composer
November 30, 1897 Quinto Maganini, composer
November 30, 1895 Johann Nepomuk David, composer
November 30, 1890 John Tasker Howard, composer
November 30, 1890 Oege Bakker, Dutch economist
November 30, 1889 Edgar D Adrian, English physiologist, Nobel 1932
November 30, 1885 Albrecht, von, Kesselring, German fieldmarshal, Poland/Netherland
November 30, 1884 Anders J Ture Rangstrom, Stockholm Swed, composer/critic, Kronbruden
November 30, 1874 Winston Churchill, C, British PM, 1940-45, 1951-55, Nobel 1953
November 30, 1874 Lucy Maud Montgomery, Canadian Educator
November 30, 1870 Cecil Forsyth, composer
November 30, 1863 Andres Bonifacio, leader of 1896 Philippine revolt against Spain
November 30, 1863 Gellio Benevenuto Coronaro, composer
November 30, 1861 French Gailliard, Belgian painter, Zeustempel in Athens
November 30, 1861 Ludwig Thuille, composer
November 30, 1859 Sergey Mikhaylovich Lyapunov, composer
November 30, 1857 Robert Abel, cricketer, The Guv'nor Surrey and England batsman
November 30, 1855 Marie WF Treub, Dutch economist/minister of Agriculture/Finance
November 30, 1847 August Friedrich Martin Klughardt, composer
November 30, 1843 Jozsef Kiss, Hungarian literary, Zsido Dalok
November 30, 1835 Mark Twain, [Samuel L Clemens], author, Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn
November 30, 1828 Jedediah Hotchkiss, Engineer Confederate Army, died in 1899
November 30, 1827 Constantine P Pobedonostsev, Russian reactionary lawyer/senator
November 30, 1827 Ernest H Baillon, French botanist, History of Plants
November 30, 1826 George Washington Deitzler, Brig General Union volunteers
November 30, 1821 Gustavus Woodson Smith, Secretary War, Confederacy, died in 1896
November 30, 1817 Theodor Mommsen, Germ, historian/author, Imperial Lives, Nobel 1902
November 30, 1813 Charles-Henri Valentin Alkan, composer
November 30, 1813 Hermann Kurz, German author and poet
November 30, 1813 Louise Ackermann-Choquet, French author, Pensees
November 30, 1810 Oliver Fisher Winchester, rifle maker, Winchester
November 30, 1809 Thomas Molleson Mudie, composer
November 30, 1796 Johann Carl Gottfried Loewe, composer
November 30, 1793 Johann Lukas Schonlein, helped establish scientific medicine
November 30, 1764 Franz Xaver Gerl, composer
November 30, 1753 Johann Baptist Schenk, composer
November 30, 1726 Jacques Aliamet, French etcher/engraver
November 30, 1699 Christian VI, king of Denmark/Norway
November 30, 1693 Christoph Forster, composer
November 30, 1667 Jonathan Swift, Engl, satirist, Gulliver's Travels, A Modest Proposal
November 30, 1645 Andreas Werkmeister, composer
November 30, 1634 Andres de Sola, composer
November 30, 1622 Thomas of Apshoven, Flemish painter, baptized
November 30, 1593 Johann Dilliger, composer
November 30, 1554 Philip Sidney, England, poet/statesman/soldier, Arcadia
November 30, 1508 Andrea Palladio, [Andrea di Pietro della Gondola], architect
November 30, 1485 Veronica Gambara, Italian poet
November 30, 1466 Andrea Doria, Genoese statesman/admiral
November 30, 1427 Kazimierz IV, king of Poland, 1447-92
November 30, 1373 Ferdinand I, the Righteous, king of Aragon/Sicily
November 30, 1340 John duke of Berry, captain of Paris/art collector
November 30, 538 St. Gregory of Tours, chronicler/bishop

Are any of these people on There?

I don't know what in the World of Warcraft you're talking about.

You totally haven't lived until you've heard Gunther kick it with the horn section.

I bet it's Phillip's birthday in rl. Or maybe the programmer that set up the forums.

Something like that anyway.

Mines November 14th not far off!