Where's good renting/buying basic/premium info?

Hey,

I'm looking for details on pros and cons of renting/buying land from other users/LL and how it works (what difference it makes having a premium account etc.).

Since search isn't working for me ATM and I've got a feeling it'll reject most useful terms for this subject could peeps point me towards some good threads on the subject (or tell me about your experiences and what you know if you want).

Thanks.

http://secondlife.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Land+FAQ

There's also some land a couple land classes at NCI each sunday... One then followed by a Land Q and A

Thanks, should have thought about that.

Now, what happens with renting from other users? If it helps at all, I guess I'm most interested in:

1. Differences in terraforming rights
2. Access to land and media controls when renting
3. Any issues with group land when renting
4. How prices compare (premium fees vs. rental fees)

I edited my previous post adding a couple classes. I consider myself a baroness since I own a bit of land, the others I call speculators
I have heard that some rentals you can purchase more prims but the land must be there to do that since there is a 15000 prim limit per sim.



Some do offer to turn on terraforming to let the renter do a bit of terraforming, but access to it all the time I doubt it.



Media control would have to be done through the group. Otherwise if you could change it you would have to be the owner of the land, not a renter.



You have to realize that tier must be payed to LL for the land and if the speculator wants a profit they would have to charge more. The advantage is not the initial outlay for the land.

I understand that, I'm just too lazy to do the maths.

My thinking is that since tier is less per m^2 for larger amounts it might still be cheaper to go through a baron(ess) and rent with a basic account than to pay the costs for the minimum to LL.

It could be depending on the profit the landlord wishes to make.... I have never rented, always owned land. I just dont like another layer added between LL and me as far as land goes

the land i rent out I allow teraforming, but its not on all the time, since the option is either the owner only or everyone.

Media is fairly ez most owners just set out a box and you can put a url into it, my parcel has a homebrew gadget that will do that for audio and video and allows user list's and multiple urls to be loaded for each audio and video.. im shure others have something simmilar but its not always.

Live Help has a notecard with lots of info about this, you can just send them a quick Im and they'll send you one.

I was guessing that's what'd be the case for teraforming.

Afraid I'm pretty newb as far as groups and media goes so excuse me if this is a silly question, but would I be able to deed my own object/script to the group myself? I'd need full control over scripting the media for what I'm doing. Also, out of curiosity, is it a separate group for each parcel/tennant?

I think many allow terraforming. I have it enabled, but have a couple of zoning rules that the resident has to adhere to.

As for cost, up to 1/4 sim, my rental rates are the same as land fees you would pay owning on the main grid. I know that Tony and Alliez offer those same rates, and wouldn't be surprised if most island sim owners do also.

Best thing to do is shop around, there quite a few landlords out there now.

Media - with it deeded to group you can access the media via about land directly. If you wanted to use a scripted object, you just have to ensure it has trans perm, as you will need to be able to deed it to the same group the land is.

I can only speak from my experience again: I do have a rental group available, but I advise that the resident uses their own group, which >95% do. This is because any Officer of the group will be able to return prims, access land features such as ban lists, media, etc. You choose who you invite as Officers in your own group of course, rental groups can have many, tho I am yet to have a problem arise as a result of this.

So do any landlords offer extra bodies to keep groups open or would I have to buy myself another alt?

Again I can only speak for myself, I do. I would have thought it's not uncommon for others to offer the same.

That's good to hear.

Man, I never imagined there'd be so much to consider when choosing land.

I think it's great that there is so much choice. Different landlords offer different types of agreements, different landscapes, different zoning. Add that to being able to buy on the main grid, and you have so many options, and that has to be a good thing. Though the consequence of having so many choices is the confusion it can cause.

It all depends on the person, for me it would be no big deal to drop you in the group as an officer, then essentially you are treated like one of the land owners.

Its not a biggie for me becuase i deal with only 1 parcel.. someone that has a feild of them will be different

Right, I think I'm sorted on what I'm looking for now so I'm off looking.

Here's what I'm after rental-wise, if anyone wants to offer anything up:

1. 512m^2
2. Alowed to use for whatever I want (building, selling, hanging about on, holding small events etc.)
3. Unthemed
4. Relativly flat or terraformable
5. Deeded to group I'm an officer of (scripting media is very important for what I'm doing)
6. 1 extra body to make up group numbers (I've got 1 alt I'll want to add)
7. Not laggy
8. Cheaper than owning the land myself (since none of the advantages such as zoning or nice views bother me)
9. No problem with me having things in the sky or 'unrealistic' builds
10. If you don't mind me paying you by scripted object that'd be an advantage, but not necessary
11. I'd prefer grassland or rocky to snow, but again it's not essential
12. Mature region, preferably not next to a sex shop or something though - I might have to show what I'm making to people who wouldn't appreciate it

Man, that's a big list.

That is a lot.

At Azure Islands, we can terraform, play movies, ban people, and resell the property we bought. It is mature, but it is divided into mostly residential, with a sim or two being commercial. It's not laggy and there are a few general rules about building.

I think most people who rent out things generally have some rules about what can go there.

coco

Yes, I've been coming to realise that. Thing is, I need it for a uni project and don't actually know how what I'll be building will look from the outside yet. There's no way it's going to be inherently ugly, but it could be vaguely monolithic. On the plus side, it does stand a chance of being something quite special.

Oh, nearly forgot...

Thanks for all your help everybody!

You get 512m2 land allowance with Premium, so if you're not already on that, that's your best bet really.

Yeah, I've been beginning to think that. I'm gonna keep looking until some new first land comes out though.