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Corran Lightworker

Registered User

Join date: 28 Mar 2006

Posts: 2

03-30-2006 16:36

Yesterday a thread was posted about a product (Force Elements) in second life with a back door. The person that posted this thread about a back door has completly got the wrong end of the stick. The reason this product has a back door is so it can be disabled for improper use IE: Greifing. Many people i have spoken to like this particular feature, and support the feature in what it does. However i find it disgusting that people would attack a precaution that is there to protect them, due to this action by the thread poster it has put the creator of the item under great stress and anxiety, it has also had an effect on an entire community, groups and individuals. Please do not take what the thread poster wrote as the absolute truth, please contact someone who is directly involved in the making of this item (force elements) and you will be told about the abilities and limitations of the product including rights to remove the product if it is found to be used in an inappropriate matter. If you do not ask about abilities, limitations, and rights to revoke the product you are at fault not the creator.

Yumi Murakami

DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!

Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

03-30-2006 16:39

It would be fine if you also paid them back their L$800 when you shut down the object.

That achieves the aim of preventing griefing, while avoiding any bad business objections.

Corran Lightworker

Registered User

Join date: 28 Mar 2006

Posts: 2

03-30-2006 16:44

well thats down to the individual if they want their money back, but after a short period of time the ability to re-use force elements will be returned, how ever if it is reported that an inndividual has caused another offence using the force elements system the ability will be revoked and it will then be down to the admin to take further action concerning re embersment or not

nimrod Yaffle

Cavemen are people too...

Join date: 15 Nov 2004

Posts: 3,146

03-30-2006 16:46

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Revan Muromachi

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Join date: 16 Jun 2005

Posts: 6

03-30-2006 16:46

If the group were to actually shut off the system it would be after seeing someone break Second Life rules with the item and yes they will be refunded their money. But we have never had to shut off anyones force powers and the power also allows the item to be turned back on. the poster of the thread failed to mention that. The shut off switch was designed to stop the abuse of the product, not to give the creator control.

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

03-30-2006 16:53

This thread is inappropriate for the SL Forums and has been closed. Please see the Guidelines.

Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.

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UPDATE: Force Elements
Corran Lightworker Registered User Join date: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 2	03-30-2006 16:36 Yesterday a thread was posted about a product (Force Elements) in second life with a back door. The person that posted this thread about a back door has completly got the wrong end of the stick. The reason this product has a back door is so it can be disabled for improper use IE: Greifing. Many people i have spoken to like this particular feature, and support the feature in what it does. However i find it disgusting that people would attack a precaution that is there to protect them, due to this action by the thread poster it has put the creator of the item under great stress and anxiety, it has also had an effect on an entire community, groups and individuals. Please do not take what the thread poster wrote as the absolute truth, please contact someone who is directly involved in the making of this item (force elements) and you will be told about the abilities and limitations of the product including rights to remove the product if it is found to be used in an inappropriate matter. If you do not ask about abilities, limitations, and rights to revoke the product you are at fault not the creator.
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	03-30-2006 16:39 It would be fine if you also paid them back their L$800 when you shut down the object. That achieves the aim of preventing griefing, while avoiding any bad business objections.
Corran Lightworker Registered User Join date: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 2	03-30-2006 16:44 well thats down to the individual if they want their money back, but after a short period of time the ability to re-use force elements will be returned, how ever if it is reported that an inndividual has caused another offence using the force elements system the ability will be revoked and it will then be down to the admin to take further action concerning re embersment or not
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	03-30-2006 16:46 _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Revan Muromachi Registered User Join date: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6	03-30-2006 16:46 If the group were to actually shut off the system it would be after seeing someone break Second Life rules with the item and yes they will be refunded their money. But we have never had to shut off anyones force powers and the power also allows the item to be turned back on. the poster of the thread failed to mention that. The shut off switch was designed to stop the abuse of the product, not to give the creator control.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-30-2006 16:53 This thread is inappropriate for the SL Forums and has been closed. Please see the Guidelines. Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc. _____________________

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