Teen Grid to Adult Grid Culture Shock?
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Tod69 Talamasca
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02-25-2006 09:23
I was just thinking about this last night, since I was telling some teenagers I work with about SL, and how they'd have to stay on the Teen Grid till they were 18...
If a person starts on the Teen Grid, and is automatically placed on the Adult Grid when they turn 18, Do they face any kind of "culture shock"?
This also led me to wondering- After seeing what teens are like on their lil' "MySpace" and "Journal" sites, and how they can be rather nasty with one another, Do they think it's like that on the Main Grid and would that account for some of the more annoying people you encounter?
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-25-2006 09:34
My experience is that most teenagers are far less nasty than many adults in their twenties. I thought you meant the culture shock was going to have to do with sex. I looked at the police blotter yesterday and discovered that "teen sexual activity" gets them them suspended, and several were. "Teen profanity" gets them warned. I wonder what "sexual activity" consists of? If it is blatantly running around nude with huge attachments asking for partners, I could see it being disciplined. But surely it doesn't mean just billing and cooing among themselves. Their culture shock would more likely be when they arrive at these forums and try to make sense of the rules. coco
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Cybin Monde
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yes.. -ish
02-25-2006 09:39
the first transfer definitely suffered from culture shock, but i'm sure it's not so bad anymore.
the more transfers there are on the MG, the easier that transition becomes. many MG teens (18+) will have friends still on the TG, so when those guys transfer over they have friends to help acclimate them into this side of the gridverse.
although, i imagine actual SLers who are making the transfer currently would be better able to answer your question..
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Richie Waves
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02-25-2006 09:41
From: Cocoanut Cookie Their culture shock would more likely be when they arrive at these forums and try to make sense of the rules. coco
forums arent open to TG users?
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-25-2006 09:54
From: Richie Waves forums arent open to TG users? They have their own forums, I believe. coco
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Gabe Lippmann
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02-25-2006 10:42
From: Cocoanut Cookie Their culture shock would more likely be when they arrive at these forums and try to make sense of the rules Can you just put some kind of catchall statement about the forum rules/RM/inequity/whatever in your sig line? That way I won't have to think you are purposely derailing every single thread.
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Strife Onizuka
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02-25-2006 10:50
In the life a teenager, much time is spent wanting to get out of school. When they hit collage (and the mature grid) they are released from some of the rules that held them down (in thier eyes). Which translates into a beleive that none of the rules from before apply. When they come to the mature grid, they will likely get a rude awakening. Culture shock maybe but in the opposite direction then we think; disapointment that it's not a world without rules.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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02-26-2006 02:32
From: Cocoanut Cookie I thought you meant the culture shock was going to have to do with sex. I looked at the police blotter yesterday and discovered that "teen sexual activity" gets them them suspended, and several were. "Teen profanity" gets them warned.
Yea, that too. To be on the TG where who knows what 'sexual activity' means, then to find yourself on the MG one day where just about everything goes.
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Selador Cellardoor
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02-26-2006 05:36
From: Gabe Lippmann Can you just put some kind of catchall statement about the forum rules/RM/inequity/whatever in your sig line? That way I won't have to think you are purposely derailing every single thread. The thread is derailed?
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Ashlee Gould
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02-26-2006 07:30
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Beau Perkins
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02-26-2006 07:34
From: Cocoanut Cookie Their culture shock would more likely be when they arrive at these forums and try to make sense of the rules. coco
Coco, you whine and cry just like someone who should beon the teen grid. You are the main reason I stopped coming around these parts anymore. To many people act like little kids crying that "life is not fair" Grow up and stop always having an "issue", please, for the good of the forums. If you dont like the forums and how LL runs them, go somewhere else and post about SL, create your own forum where all you whiners can get together and have the perfect world. Every thread of yours seems to have the same tone. You dont know how to just discuss a topic without throwing in some conspiracy theory, complaining about the forums or SL itself. You make a joke of yourself and your reputation. People cant even take you serious anymore. As far as the topic at hand, I have spoken with two teen griders who expressed to me the biggest culture shock was financial survival. Tghere was so much they wanted to buy but found it much harder to make money because they were now trying to compete with much higher quality products. T
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Euterpe Roo
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02-26-2006 07:35
Long answer (or long-winded answer  ): I think that the TG-->MG transfer experience is a very difficult one to navigate for those who have experienced it. It is likened to the experience many "oldbies" feel regarding the current size of the grid. More specifically, the SL community was, when it was much older and smaller, a very tight-knit, unified group. As it has expanded, the MG has become much more diverse, complex, and, somtimes, more divisive. Teenagers, for the most part, have already been exposed to "Mature" content in many other places on the Web. They know how to find it (if that is their goal), and many choose to ignore it. Inter-personal relationships (friendships) is what many TG users seek; they are looking for common interests/common viewpoints. Finding those relationships in the MG can be a daunting process. Short answer: Yes, there is a great deal of culture shock.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-26-2006 09:52
From: Gabe Lippmann Can you just put some kind of catchall statement about the forum rules/RM/inequity/whatever in your sig line? That way I won't have to think you are purposely derailing every single thread. If it's any consolation, I seem to have more or less gotten over it somewhere late last night. I do get over things. That one - with Satchmo's explanation - took me some time to get over, though. I was hugely indignant about it. Now I just don't give a s**t. coco P.S. And it's hardly "derailed." We're talking about culture shock to teens. I'm talking about how the culture shock is very likely when you come from a place where you get frickin suspended for "sexual activity" into a place where the rules about profanity, vulgarity and personal attacks - at least on the forums - are essentially meaningless and don't result in warnings or anything. Kinda like, one day you are supposed to be pure as the driven snow with no hormonal activity going on whatever, and the next day you are tossed into pure Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-26-2006 10:05
From: Beau Perkins Coco, you whine and cry just like someone who should beon the teen grid. You are the main reason I stopped coming around these parts anymore. To many people act like little kids crying that "life is not fair" Grow up and stop always having an "issue", please, for the good of the forums. If you dont like the forums and how LL runs them, go somewhere else and post about SL, create your own forum where all you whiners can get together and have the perfect world. Every thread of yours seems to have the same tone. You dont know how to just discuss a topic without throwing in some conspiracy theory, complaining about the forums or SL itself. You make a joke of yourself and your reputation. People cant even take you serious anymore. As far as the topic at hand, I have spoken with two teen griders who expressed to me the biggest culture shock was financial survival. Tghere was so much they wanted to buy but found it much harder to make money because they were now trying to compete with much higher quality products. T Well, Mr. Beau, you are one of the main reasons I'm glad you stopped coming around these parts anymore. Why don't you just let people be concerned with what they are concerned with, without feeling compelled to post paragraphs of personal attack drivel? Every thread of yours seems to have the same tone. You just don't know how to discuss the issue at hand without making it personal and telling someone just what you think of them, like some old biddy. This makes a joke of yourself and your personality, and people may stop taking you seriously because of it. Grow up and stop trying to change other people, please, for the good of the forums. If you dont like the way people use the forums to talk about forum and SL issues, go somewhere else and post about SL; create your own forum where all you intolerant folks can get together and have the perfect world. coco
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Kim Anubis
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02-26-2006 10:55
From: Beau Perkins Coco, you whine and cry just like someone who should beon the teen grid. You are the main reason I stopped coming around these parts anymore. So just mute her.
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02-26-2006 12:17
From: Tod69 Talamasca ...After seeing what teens are like on their lil' "MySpace" and "Journal" sites, and how they can be rather nasty with one another... Me thinks they would feel right at home
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kornation Bommerang
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02-27-2006 02:41
one of my sl freinds turned out to be under age and sent to teen grid - and he had a culture shock when he went there over the 'no gambling whatsoever' rule
but the thing that confuses me is that teens are able to buy land and - as far as he's told me - islands - so what happens when he gets sent back to teh main grid? where does his land and stuff go? all his freinds and contacts?
there should be an island that allows teen and adult grid to meet - 1 sim policed - maybe even have announced opening times so that it doesnt need 24hour linden protection? - and all transferable items should be done thru teh moderater so they can check it - then the teen and mainland buisness peeps can open their markets to a larger audience
we now have forum moderaters taht are residents - can this be done with residents aswell? from both grids?
hard-confusing at first but once running would be easier to run and make the switch more smootly for teh teens and allow them to be able to meet family and freinds they know in rl in sl
oh and teen grid - i have a 8yrold halfbro that would like to go on sl - and have allowed him (monitered of course) to use one of my alts on private land - but i want him to be able to enter a safer world like the teen grid so i dont have to watch over him 24/7 - should i fake his age for entrence to teen grid or face facts and keep him away from all the sl peeps on both grids and monitor him like a hawk?
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