Naming Names, Shaming the Shameful

I know it's against forum rules to name-and-shame here, when certain Land Barons and Shifty Vendors (you know who you are) practice professional douchebaggery.

However, if one were to erect a website that allowed naming and shaming of such, was indeed dedicated to the cause, and requested public funding via L$ donation for conversion into USD to keep up the site.....

1. Would you donate?

2. Would you post?

3. Would you read it regularly?

4. Would the party erecting the site be banned if their SL name were discovered?

Edit: Poll added.

Absolutely not



Nope



Nope



Probably not


My questions:

1. Why would you want to do something like this?

2. How could you be sure the entries were true and not manufactured to hurt someone?

3. Do you realize the damage this could cause to someone who was falsely reported and understand that you could in no way completely remedy it even by posting a retraction?

This can be done in the forums at forums.sluniverse.com, forums.secondcitizen.com, forums.sldrama.com, and at the SL Better Business Bureau, www.slbbb.com/forum, and in this thread, /108/80/112547/1.html, someone describes their plans for a second life better business bureau.

If you just want to badmouth people, a blog at typepad.com seems to serve the purpose quite well.

It would be something in the nature of a Consumer Report. By initiating themselves as businesses, businesses are subject to critique of their ability to provide to their customers. While false reports may come through, a single negative review isn't what tanks a business. Businesses with multiple reports from multiple sources of varying nature, however, would need to step up their customer service level.

The website would not be responsible for the posts themselves and would only moderate to prevent flamewars and such. Particularly common complaints could easily appear as a 'graph" that listed the "worst rep" companies in SL. Similarly, the Consumer Report would allow positive feedback so that many SL companies can be listed in a manner similar to www.pricewatch.com 's "star" system.

With the new registration system and the total lack of a reputation system, something is going to be needed. Born-on date is only so good. However, just about any "reputation system" can be gamed. If eBay and Froogle haven't gotten it 100% right, I doubt anyone will. Still, it would be a good tool to have as long as the operators were fair.

I'd love to have the system, for example, be a central clearing house for known freebie sellers so I could set a threshold of some sort, and if someone exceeds that threshold, automatically suspend their SLBoutique account until I can investigate.

Regards,

-Flip

How do you deal with people who create multiple accounts in order to make false bad reports about their competitors?

caughlamecaugh

sry something in my throat

maby rework it to a hot or not site ?

as far as pointing out greifers and wrong-doer's it could be ok, but as mentioned before its a snap of your fingers to make new accounts in SL and game something like this out of greif wrongdoing and spite.. so i dont think it would really do too much in the "big picture"

No, I would have nothing to do with it. As if SL needed more personal vendettas, fabicated stories and lynch mobs who listen to any accusation.

Wendel

Waaaaay too much potential for abuse.

This idea sounds like a total witch hunt to me.

My concern, as well.

HAHA I was wondering how long it would take for someone to come up with an SL basedBetter Business Bureau. Now if we could report LL there it would all be good HA

Plus as I mentioned above there are plenty of places to say bad things about other SL users already in existence.

A shopping site might be able to have a rating system with rating ability available only to people who bought the object; having to buy something might cut down on false reports, but even then people who felt that damaging their competition's reputation would bring in X lindens might be willing to pay an amount less than X in order to do so.

As Thumper's father always says:

"If ya can't say nuthin nice, don't say nuthin at all"

In a thread titled "Naming Names, Shaming the Shameful", the OP tells us the proposed website is to identify "...certain Land Barons and Shifty Vendors (who) practice professional douchebaggery." In the following paragraph, we are questioned whether donations could be expected if the site were sufficiently dedicated to "the cause".

Although gracious that positive feedback would be allowed in an environment following this negatively framed agenda, I fear it reads as token afterthought to fair and balanced critique. Since this proposal is presented in the context of releasing us from the fetters of an SL forum rule, we might read any random month's worth of threads to envision the cool objectivity of posts unburdoned by quaint niceties practiced here.

I really don't understand why the Police Blotter doesn't name names. They do in RL, and are often printed in the newspapers. I can understand LL wanting privacy for a person, but protecting an avatars privacy seems rather ridiculous to me.

This sounds like a good idea, but you'd need to give the person a chance to tell their side of the story too, as with ebay feedback. An overall reputation will gradually build up which should keep things fair.