LL try this ..........

Do away with L$'s end of problem.
I've played many a game that I started out with nothing and have ended up able to do for others that no one ever did for me.
If you saw someone in need would you pass by and say well my shop is over there stop by when you have the money and I'll let you buy the clothes you want.
Or would you do what you can to help them ?
I myself give what i can without wanting or asking anything from them.
Let the players do as they wish with what they create.
There is no better feeling than creating something and giving it to someone letting them add to or take away from and grateful that you did this out of kindness.
Anyone ever heard of the barter system ?

I beg to differ.

I far prefer to see people willing to pay for my content.

No - I like the money thing. It's so much fun to set prices, set permissions, package it up, advertise it, and . . . sell it! And even more fun when people love what they bought.

You just can't get that with any sort of barter system. A version of Catherine's idea, though, where you'd have a grid, maybe where there was money but it couldn't get traded into dollars, would be nice to get a bit more play back into the business of play.

coco

People will use use EBay, SLExchange, whatever. It's been happening since the first online games. Always has. Always will.

Oh I realize that, which is why I referred to it in the other thread as black market. But it still takes the whole thing down a considerable notch.

coco

Not enough to warrent setting up a seperate grid for.

D'ya know I used to say this over and over and over but I was wrong. L$ are our friends.

I was also wrong to rally for 4m terraforming limits. Gosh that's twice in as many years.

Bad Khamon Bad

How about the satisfaction of both?

I like giving stuff away and I do it all the time. I see a newbie and I always have a box of clothes (unfortunately mostly women's) that I'll just pass to them along with an explanation for how to open the box... (generally helpful hehe).

But I have to say I also love the feeling of logging in and seeing my acount balance has gone up a couple of hundred and checking my history to find out what someone bought.

And we wonder where greed comes from. I prefer the barter system.. much more efficient and things happen quicker too. Builds a commuknity atmosphere when resources are shared, not expected and people are more apt to treat each other with respect.

LEAVE THE GAME AS IT IS!!!!!! why cant you see that if they got rid of real currency ingame it would leave no point in taking time to build casinos, clubs ect....maybe if your a kid its un...but for us older folk...its a bussiness....if you cant afford land and nice things..well..get a job..sorry..but its true

how can that work when everything is made by ppl?? anyone can make anything..wheres the logistics?

How can you even POSSIBLY claim that barter is quicker and more efficient?

Of course, straight to USD certainly would be.


And we have a barter system. It's called open source, more or less.

Oh, Rei, that kind of shit is easy. Check this out:

Horse-drawn carriage is much faster and reliable than the 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class.

See!

Ummm....I'm not a kid, I'm in my 30's and SL is SO not a business. I mean didn't you just call it a "game" yourself? I use SL as an outlet for day to day stress, I don't need an in game job/business to add more stress to my day. If they got rid of in-game currency OMG people would creat things because it's fun, people would create things because they can, people would build "casinos, clubs, etc...." because they want to provide a place for people to have fun. Ok so maybe they wouldn't build casinos, not much use for them without currency.

I'm actually in favor of having the currency but I hate that the RL value of that currency is what's driving LL to make decisions. The majority of the members of SL do not run businesses, do not expect to make RL$ off the game, and do not care what the value of the $L is.

If you leave everything alone, I'm sure those that are here just to make a RL buck will eventually leave and the fun will come back. When I joined people helped each other, people taught eachother how to do things, now everyone is soooooooooo protective of EVERYTHING because they don't want to loose that $$ that they could make off it and nobody helps anymore. I mean why give away a great script for someone to creat their own car when you can sell your scripting services...

This place has become so self-serving and the value of the almighty $L is what guides every decision. If all those "wanna make an income from SL" people left taking their wonderful content with them, some of the now struggling creators would stand a chance and will take their places. The result being the majority staying happy.

If LL keeps catering to the people who are so concerned with the value of the $L then eventually it will lead to a very stingy $L giving from LL which will drive a good number of the paying customers away. Like it or not this is just entertainment for many of us and paying our $10 a month plus tier fees is plenty of money spent on a game. Telling us to buy $L to enjoy what we didn't have to pay any extra for before is wrong. Now for the basic members who havn't paid a penny...well, sure I suppose they should be expected to pay SOMETHING for the entertainment. Honestly I don't know the purpose of giving away basic membersips for free.

Bartering requires people to deal with eachother. Yes thats good for the community but it also relies on people being online to trade resources. Then again some people do this in a way. They partner up, one will build something for someone else in exchange for a script...at least they used to when I first joined....not sure if this goes on much anymore.

I just can't believe SL has come to a point where nobody wants to create anything without making a profit.

I like to barter, I usually am in great need of paper sheets, small paper sheets. These sheets that I use most to barter with are green, with some pink, and black. Usually pictures of dead people and small plastic strips imbedded in the paper. I personally think this barter system is the best. I only take paper sheets made from official paper sheet mills. As I have stated before, my need for these paper sheets in my life is great, and it's usually the only thing I will take for a trade. I will admit I like the paper sheets with the most 0's on them, as it's more fun and I can barter with other people who also need these for better things.

Yup, I'm a fan of the barter system! Who's with me?

- Sam

***LEAVE THE GAME AS IT IS!!!!!! why cant you see that if they got rid of real currency ingame it would leave no point in taking time to build casinos, clubs ect....maybe if your a kid its un...but for us older folk...its a bussiness....if you cant afford land and nice things..well..get a job..sorry..but its true ***

If you must know I work THREE jobs in SL. and I have a shop of my own. Unless a person can afford to buy L$'s (all my RL money went into the game fees then I have to repay by paying for land fees which are pricey to begin with) you litterally can't do a thing in this game so I work Three jobs and I still don't make anywhere near what I need in this game. btw.. you missed my point about the L's. Real money is needed BUT there needs to be a balance.. right now there is no balance .. that's why inworld economeny is faultering and very quickly. Taking away a perk isn't gonna fix this either.. it will make it much worse It surprises me how this isn't seen to be honest. It's actually penalizing the players by taking away soemthing that they earned and makes things a little easier in terms of the RL money situation.

Folks are going to get discouraged and nwind up leaving simply because it's not worth spending so much money for a game. Care needs to be taken here.