Should I Invest in JEVN?

Well.. seeing as JEVN vendors seem actually not a bad idea now seeing as I've got more than 3 vendor spots now, this makes it cumbersome to go about going from location to location to location, so I've been thinking of a network vendor. Thus far, according to SLExchange.com, JEVN vendors seem to be rated highly. I just wanted to be sure though...

Do you like or dislike JEVN vendors? Any technical reasons why you made your decision on them?

I like mine. Version 2.0 had a major flaw but that's fixed in the most recent one. There are a lot of users, so if you ever get stuck, you can pop into the group's chat and there's usually 10-15 other JEVN users there to help you out.

I've made my L$2000 back in time alone it saved me.

They are actually good vendors.

However, I do have a slight.. ethical issue with them. The earlier version contained a major security flaw - which wasn't just a flaw, it was actually a lack of any implemented security on one particular communication channel, which resulted in the theft of several items from vendors. JEVN have fixed that bug in the latest version. The problem is that there are several other vendor networks that do basically the same thing, but have had security from the beginning, which just get ignored - very possibly as a result of having come to market later, which also could be as a result of having taken the extra time required to implement security.

It is a good vendor and it no longer has security issues but I'm hard pressed to recommend it because doing so would endorse the "release it early, grab the market, patch patch patch" model in SL, which we all love so dearly in the RL software industry Also, why should people bother to implement good security if, when their weak security is found out to the extent of causing loss to others, they themselves don't lose anything and people keep buying their stuff?

You could get my network vendor almost free . No hacks possible and stores 4 times as many items as jevn vendors do. My vendor also can store your items in categories for easy browsing. I have 2 versions for sale.

1) the vendor is free but i the creator get 2% taking on each sale.
2) the vendor costs $L1500.

atm i do not have a jevc type vendor YET.
i am always available for help in setting up vendors too but i do prefer you try reading the notecard provided and try for yourself first.

I love my JEVN system (servers, vendors, catalogue, courier).

I love the support, Esmay is always willing to answer questions and if she isnt online the user group always has someone on. Even if it is sometimes the answer to a question is "I have no idea ask Esmay" lol but that is extremely rare. The members of the user group are an awesome bunch of ppl.

I love the semi-regular updates. Means I didnt buy a "dead" product but one that is constantly upgrading and evolving.

I love the ease of use. The system has a very comprehensive manual that lets you get up and running quickly and once its going adding products to my JEVN servers/vendors takes less time than to add the same products to SLX. Setting up new stores/locations is a breeze.

I like the fact that the vendors are usable "out of the box" (and there are so many versions!) or you can completely develop your own vendors for a unique merchant look.

Sure there were some problems with security in the earlier versions. I think that doesnt worry me so much because I'm only small fry and wasnt likely to be a target for theft. Not sure how I would have felt if I had some stuff stolen but I dont think I would have given up my JEVN system.

And no, for those trollers out there, I am not a good friend of Esmay's, I am not an alt of Esmay's, I am not getting kickbacks for promoting her products ummm I am not any of those other reasons trollers come up with for trashing good reviews.

I am nothing more than a user of a product I love.

Catt

JEVN looks like a good system, but not too expandable. I haven't tested it thoroughly, I read a report that says a server can't handle more than 36 vendors.

A little over a year ago, when the mall craze came to SL, I had 8 product category servers, each handling 50+ vendors, for a total of 400+ vendors in-world. JEVN couldn't have handled that with 8 servers, if the report is correct (pretty recent report).

I used Raphael Rutherford's system (not sure if he is still around), and its limit was just over 50 vendors per servers. But back then it cost me 10K, JEVN is cheap in comparison. JEVN may be a good investment depending on how you plan to scale your business.

You should also look into Kyrah Abattoir's system. It can supposedly handle over 200 items per server, and very affordable. I have no idea how many vendors each server can handle, but I'm sure Kyrah can help with that.

Well.. I think the semi-regular updates are deifnitely a good thing. Especially with SL's viewer and code constantly evolving. See, I like the fact that Linden Labs is working to fix the various issues that crops up, same thing with JEVN system. It helps keep them real, keep them in touch with the user who doesn't know jack shittake from if / else statements of C++.

I'll risk it. I'm going to nab me a JEVN system. *noddles*

I love it. Works great, is feature rich to say the least, and easy to get help if you need it through the JEVN group if not directly from Esmay. It's great to set up a store in just a couple of minutes.

I'm *not even* going to touch this thread!

JEVN is a good system but is it good for you? There is a lot of setup involved and it isn't the easiest vendor system in the world to get up and running. I have to have the instructions up to do much of anything with them as I forget the commands easily. If you do not have more than a couple dozen items and just a few locations, they are not worth the hassle. They are, however, a gigantic advantage when you have a multitude of different locations with many items you are constantly changing. JEVN really shine in that mode.

To me, had I not invested so much time and energy in setting them up, I wouldn't use them because they are way overkill for my situation. You will also find many who believe the JEVN vendors to be lag inducers (even though that has yet to be proven but there is lots of evidence to suggest they are no worse than any other vendor) and will ban them willy-nilly.

Yeah, kind of like the way shoplifters aren't allowed in the stores they stole from.

I've never had a vendor rental merchant return my JEVN vendors, and if they did, I'd ask where they get the crack that they are smoking, because it must be good stuff. There have been several tests that confirm that it would take about 5000 JEVN vendors to use up the same sim resources as the typical avatar's nose ring.

IM me ingame, I think I still have a notecard copy of the test results...

I have. I have had merchants provide what they believed to be lag free vendors and required their use even though they were ugly, hard to set up and had 6 scripts inside it.

I had another send me a message saying I had to change my JEVN's to something less lag inducing. I replied asking why they thought JEVN vendors were lag inducing and then I said prove it. Esmay sent them a copy of the test results she had and that was the last I heard about it.

Last I heard Beverly Hills bans them as well.

As I said, make sure they are right for your situation before plopping down $3000L. With P2P teleporting, checking and maintaning vendors isn't the major pain in the butt it used to be. If you have hundreds of items to sell, updating your inventory constantly and you are changing prices regularly then the JEVN system is perfect and I highly recommend them. If you have 10 items in three spots, you are using a monster dumptruck to move a gallon of milk. That is my opinion of them at any rate.

I think some vendor rental merchants have not allowed them because of past performance issues with JEVN. I actually own one its perfomance seems to be much better than earlier versions. And what crack have have those testers been smoking or what monstrous bling script have they found in a nose ring? Sounds like crazy propoganda to me, 5000 timer scripts will cripple a sim's resources noneless 5000 network vendor scripts (which has a timer built in). I would love to see these test results, please send them to me.

Due to prim constraints on my property, I'm considering adding some form of vendor system to my store, or possibly several different stands (one for decor, one for furniture etc).

These would all be in one location so I don't need a networked system.... seems like JEVN would be a bit overkill for what I want.

Any suggestions?

Lewis

Might I suggest the JZ Vendors from Dione's Design's as a very low lag non networked vendor. We have been using them at Textures After Dark for nearly 10 months and have had fantastic results. One vendor I have contains well over 200 item boxes and textures loaded into and it performs flawlessly. Also you can profit split about any way you like.

No I don't work for her just one very happy customer

i personally love the jevn system. i rarely use vendors, but for the occasions that i do... and being one of the vendor-challenged lol, the jevn was the easiest system to set up that i've ever used, and i've tried a few. it has alot of options with little hassle. to me, that was a godsend in itself. they're efficient and esmay seems to have thought of just about every detail a user could possibly want. she also has a wonderful support system set up for those using the system, so rarely would you have a problem or question that couldn't be addressed almost immediately

Beverly Hills vendor is what I use when I can't use the JEVN system and they work quite well. The biggest thing to look for in a vendor system is the ability to copy it once it is set up. Some free ones wont allow you to copy the vendor if it has anything in it so you have to set them up each time and those you need to avoid like the plague. The BH vendors allow you to copy so it is a simple matter of setting one up and then dropping a copy off at each location.