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Val Fardel

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03-11-2006 13:01

I personally would prefer to get rid of the horrible lag and slow texture loading that has been present over the past few weeks. It seems to have gotten so bad that changing clothes can take redicullously long now.

Please! Fix the lag and texture load times. Please make THIS a priority.

Moopf Murray

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Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

03-11-2006 13:02

From: Val Fardel

I personally would prefer to get rid of the horrible lag and slow texture loading that has been present over the past few weeks. It seems to have gotten so bad that changing clothes can take redicullously long now.

Please! Fix the lag and texture load times. Please make THIS a priority.

Few weeks? If you'd said "got increasingly worse over the last 18 months" I would have agreed with you without caveats.

EDIT: We all need to pray to which ever God, or entity, is your choice that Second Life does not reach "tipping point" any time soon. It will implode if it does and we'll all be shafted.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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03-11-2006 13:34

From: Moopf Murray

Few weeks? If you'd said "got increasingly worse over the last 18 months" I would have agreed with you without caveats.

EDIT: We all need to pray to which ever God, or entity, is your choice that Second Life does not reach "tipping point" any time soon. It will implode if it does and we'll all be shafted.

"Tipping" - is this related to the old hip topic "catastophe theory", or just really old timey exponential growth?

At any rate, if there is a massive increase in userbase, perhaps this would entice some competors into the field. Perhaps they will be better than Linden Lab at some things, such as, say, being able to allow one to search their inventory by creator, and worse at other things, such as generating images of gray rectangles with white outlines. One can hope.

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Enabran Templar

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03-11-2006 14:20

How come I never have any of these problems?

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Einsman Schlegel

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Join date: 11 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,461

03-11-2006 14:34

From: Enabran Templar

How come I never have any of these problems?

Lucky I guess?

Persephone Milk

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Join date: 7 Oct 2004

Posts: 870

03-11-2006 16:33

I am not having these problems either. Although I am sure your described experiences are real, I do think that those of us who do not have these problems should speak up as well. The issues are apparently not universal.

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Starax Statosky

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03-11-2006 16:50

From: Persephone Milk

I am not having these problems either. Although I am sure your described experiences are real, I do think that those of us who do not have these problems should speak up as well. The issues are apparently not universal.

My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it.

* waits for my clap *

SuezanneC Baskerville

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03-11-2006 16:52

Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.".

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Starax Statosky

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03-11-2006 16:56

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.".

It's about so high. It's black... and it sounds like a dishwasher.

Persephone Milk

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03-11-2006 17:04

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.".

I would love to hear from anybody that sees the world instantly! All I can say for my part is that I am not seeing any problems in the last few weeks greater than those I have seen in the last few months. System specs from anybody seeing a massive problem in the last few weeks might also be helpful.

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Octal Khan

Putting the Mod in Modern

Join date: 14 Feb 2004

Posts: 116

03-11-2006 17:18

I'm on a $20,000 PC and everything runs great!

Seriously..

Asus P4P800 SE
Pentium4 HT 3.0 1mbc/800fsb (prescott)
4 gigs RAM Dual-Channel DDR@533mhz
Western Digital SATA 500gb
Geforce 7800 GS (AGP 8x)
Cable Modem to 10/100 LAN

Not a super-hot system by todays SLI standards, but pretty decent, and if I keep the draw distance <128 I get good FPS. (I do think the large RAM amount helps SL alot). But there are still times when I go somewhere with a lot of AVs that loading slows down to a crawl for a while, then perks up again once everything is loaded...i think thats probably a network throughput issue though...? Curious if other's experience the same thing...

Cottonteil Muromachi

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03-11-2006 17:32

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.".

Detailed system specs from those that see the gray would make a better response than asking the majority of the others that don't see the gray that too often. I live 8500 miles away from LL and don't see gray.

Zepp Zaftig

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Join date: 20 Mar 2005

Posts: 470

03-11-2006 17:59

From: Starax Statosky

My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it.

* waits for my clap *

clap, a common venereal disease caused by the bacterium Neisseria gonorrhoeae; symptoms are painful urination and pain around the urethra.

I'm not sure if anyone in this thread will give it to you, but who knows.

Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

Posts: 3,336

03-12-2006 01:34

GFX enabled...
Ripple Water
Shiny
AV rendering normal
Terrain some
res 1280x1024 fullscreen

Adv Gfx
(128mb on a 128mb card)
Object Detail 50%
Tree Detail 50%
AV Detail 50%
AV vertex program enabled
Draw Distance 96m
Fog Distance Ratio 4.0
Drop DD if 0 FPS
Bumpyness DD 10m
Max Particle Count 4096 (on the gf2 i kept this at 2000 something)
Outfit Composit Limit 5

My current hardware (that matters)
Mainboard Gigabyte GA-7VT600
Chipset VIA KT600 (8237)
CPU AMD AthalonXP 2200+ 133mhz FSB +DDR (266)
(native 1.833 ghz oc abit to 1.9ghz)
1.5gb ddr 333 memory (standard issue generic ram, nothing magical)
PNY Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP 8X
(stock speed, i havent had it long enugh to uber mod it like my GF2GTS)
A real netgear network card (none of this leech cpu cycles integrated stuff)
A real soundcard (sound blaster live, old model but good)
PCI bus is overclocked to 35 mhz (instead of 33)
AGP bus is OC by 2mhz as well (just tweaking without getting extreme)
(windows 2000 pro fully updated, with some reg tweaks by xteq's xsetup)

3mb DSL

it takes about 30 seconds to a max 3 min for a large sized area for me to rez
30fps is quite commonplace
cheesefactory.us/evil_laugh.bmp

Lo Jacobs

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Posts: 2,734

03-12-2006 03:29

I'm so jealous

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Mack Echegaray

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Join date: 15 Dec 2005

Posts: 145

03-12-2006 05:48

I'm not really convinced it's related to system specs guys. I have a _very_ old computer, and have never experienced a scene full of unloaded textures. SL _is_ too slow at times on my PC, like when there are lots of avatars around. But textures always loaded pretty fast, at least when I was last using SL (which I admit was a while ago but even then, people have been posting about problems with grey textures for some time).

More interesting to see than system specs would be texture console snapshots and the logs that SL generates in the debug consoles. I'm starting to wonder if this is really a problem with constant but low level packet loss rather than system specs. I know the logs are, uh, verbose ... but it'd be interesting if somebody seeing this problem could upload a full log somewhere.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

03-12-2006 07:11

The technical forum is probably the place for attempts to figure out why some folks have slow rendering and texture loading problems while others don't. There are existing threads there on these topics.

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Noh Rinkitink

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Join date: 31 Jan 2006

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03-12-2006 11:41

From: Starax Statosky

My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it.

* waits for my clap *

[AAMeeting]Hi, Starax![/AAMeeting]

The upcoming release looks really nice and all BUT...
Val Fardel Registered User Join date: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 90	03-11-2006 13:01 I personally would prefer to get rid of the horrible lag and slow texture loading that has been present over the past few weeks. It seems to have gotten so bad that changing clothes can take redicullously long now. Please! Fix the lag and texture load times. Please make THIS a priority.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	03-11-2006 13:02 From: Val Fardel I personally would prefer to get rid of the horrible lag and slow texture loading that has been present over the past few weeks. It seems to have gotten so bad that changing clothes can take redicullously long now. Please! Fix the lag and texture load times. Please make THIS a priority. Few weeks? If you'd said "got increasingly worse over the last 18 months" I would have agreed with you without caveats. EDIT: We all need to pray to which ever God, or entity, is your choice that Second Life does not reach "tipping point" any time soon. It will implode if it does and we'll all be shafted. _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-11-2006 13:34 From: Moopf Murray Few weeks? If you'd said "got increasingly worse over the last 18 months" I would have agreed with you without caveats. EDIT: We all need to pray to which ever God, or entity, is your choice that Second Life does not reach "tipping point" any time soon. It will implode if it does and we'll all be shafted. "Tipping" - is this related to the old hip topic "catastophe theory", or just really old timey exponential growth? At any rate, if there is a massive increase in userbase, perhaps this would entice some competors into the field. Perhaps they will be better than Linden Lab at some things, such as, say, being able to allow one to search their inventory by creator, and worse at other things, such as generating images of gray rectangles with white outlines. One can hope. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	03-11-2006 14:20 How come I never have any of these problems? _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	03-11-2006 14:34 From: Enabran Templar How come I never have any of these problems? Lucky I guess?
Persephone Milk Very Persenickety! Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 870	03-11-2006 16:33 I am not having these problems either. Although I am sure your described experiences are real, I do think that those of us who do not have these problems should speak up as well. The issues are apparently not universal. _____________________ ~ Persephone Milk ~ Please visit my stores on Persenickety Isle Musical Alchemy - Pianos, harps and other musical intruments. Persenickety! - Ladies Eyewear, Jewelry and Clothing Fashions
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	03-11-2006 16:50 From: Persephone Milk I am not having these problems either. Although I am sure your described experiences are real, I do think that those of us who do not have these problems should speak up as well. The issues are apparently not universal. My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it. * waits for my clap *
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-11-2006 16:52 Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.". _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	03-11-2006 16:56 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.". It's about so high. It's black... and it sounds like a dishwasher.
Persephone Milk Very Persenickety! Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 870	03-11-2006 17:04 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.". I would love to hear from anybody that sees the world instantly! All I can say for my part is that I am not seeing any problems in the last few weeks greater than those I have seen in the last few months. System specs from anybody seeing a massive problem in the last few weeks might also be helpful. _____________________ ~ Persephone Milk ~ Please visit my stores on Persenickety Isle Musical Alchemy - Pianos, harps and other musical intruments. Persenickety! - Ladies Eyewear, Jewelry and Clothing Fashions
Octal Khan Putting the Mod in Modern Join date: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 116	03-11-2006 17:18 I'm on a $20,000 PC and everything runs great! Seriously.. Asus P4P800 SE Pentium4 HT 3.0 1mbc/800fsb (prescott) 4 gigs RAM Dual-Channel DDR@533mhz Western Digital SATA 500gb Geforce 7800 GS (AGP 8x) Cable Modem to 10/100 LAN Not a super-hot system by todays SLI standards, but pretty decent, and if I keep the draw distance <128 I get good FPS. (I do think the large RAM amount helps SL alot). But there are still times when I go somewhere with a lot of AVs that loading slows down to a crawl for a while, then perks up again once everything is loaded...i think thats probably a network throughput issue though...? Curious if other's experience the same thing...
Cottonteil Muromachi Abominable Join date: 2 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,071	03-11-2006 17:32 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Detailed system specs from those who see the world appear near instantly and never see a gray texture might make the responses from those in that condition more useful than simply saying "It works for me.". Detailed system specs from those that see the gray would make a better response than asking the majority of the others that don't see the gray that too often. I live 8500 miles away from LL and don't see gray.
Zepp Zaftig Unregistered Abuser Join date: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 470	03-11-2006 17:59 From: Starax Statosky My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it. * waits for my clap * clap, a common venereal disease caused by the bacterium Neisseria gonorrhoeae; symptoms are painful urination and pain around the urethra. I'm not sure if anyone in this thread will give it to you, but who knows.
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	03-12-2006 01:34 GFX enabled... Ripple Water Shiny AV rendering normal Terrain some res 1280x1024 fullscreen Adv Gfx (128mb on a 128mb card) Object Detail 50% Tree Detail 50% AV Detail 50% AV vertex program enabled Draw Distance 96m Fog Distance Ratio 4.0 Drop DD if 0 FPS Bumpyness DD 10m Max Particle Count 4096 (on the gf2 i kept this at 2000 something) Outfit Composit Limit 5 My current hardware (that matters) Mainboard Gigabyte GA-7VT600 Chipset VIA KT600 (8237) CPU AMD AthalonXP 2200+ 133mhz FSB +DDR (266) (native 1.833 ghz oc abit to 1.9ghz) 1.5gb ddr 333 memory (standard issue generic ram, nothing magical) PNY Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP 8X (stock speed, i havent had it long enugh to uber mod it like my GF2GTS) A real netgear network card (none of this leech cpu cycles integrated stuff) A real soundcard (sound blaster live, old model but good) PCI bus is overclocked to 35 mhz (instead of 33) AGP bus is OC by 2mhz as well (just tweaking without getting extreme) (windows 2000 pro fully updated, with some reg tweaks by xteq's xsetup) 3mb DSL it takes about 30 seconds to a max 3 min for a large sized area for me to rez 30fps is quite commonplace cheesefactory.us/evil_laugh.bmp
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	03-12-2006 03:29 I'm so jealous _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Mack Echegaray Registered Snoozer Join date: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 145	03-12-2006 05:48 I'm not really convinced it's related to system specs guys. I have a _very_ old computer, and have never experienced a scene full of unloaded textures. SL _is_ too slow at times on my PC, like when there are lots of avatars around. But textures always loaded pretty fast, at least when I was last using SL (which I admit was a while ago but even then, people have been posting about problems with grey textures for some time). More interesting to see than system specs would be texture console snapshots and the logs that SL generates in the debug consoles. I'm starting to wonder if this is really a problem with constant but low level packet loss rather than system specs. I know the logs are, uh, verbose ... but it'd be interesting if somebody seeing this problem could upload a full log somewhere.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-12-2006 07:11 The technical forum is probably the place for attempts to figure out why some folks have slow rendering and texture loading problems while others don't. There are existing threads there on these topics. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Noh Rinkitink Just some Nohbody Join date: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 572	03-12-2006 11:41 From: Starax Statosky My name is.. Starax.. and.. I do not have any problems. There! I said it. * waits for my clap * [AAMeeting]Hi, Starax![/AAMeeting]

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