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George Flan

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Join date: 21 Sep 2005

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01-27-2006 10:04

Can anyone tell me anything about the product called "The Envoy"? From what I read in the SL Exchange ad it is suppose to allow "me" to send email from work (where I can't have SL) to a friend who is in-world in SL. Would like to find out if this really works.

Ghoti Nyak

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Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

01-27-2006 10:38

If you have SL configured to forward IMs to email, all your friend has to do is start a conversation by sending you an IM, which will get sent from SL to your email account. You can just reply to the email and it goes into SL and looks to them like an IM. Presumably, this system you're talking about somehow facilitates this. Never used it, dont know.

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George Flan

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Join date: 21 Sep 2005

Posts: 268

Thank You

01-27-2006 11:41

Thanks, have it set already, I just thought this was a way that I could talk to my friends if I look at my friends list then use it. Your right it does work that way but only if they contact me first by IM...I was looking for a way of doing it by email with me contacting them first...Again thanks

Cory Edo

is on a 7 second delay

Join date: 26 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,851

01-27-2006 12:06

I had a theory (never tested) that you could put the person's key in the format of the email address, like such:

<f54cbc8f-ed14-8b29-5c79-x987347383927@im.secondlife.com>
(NOT A REAL KEY!)

and then send the message directly from your email address. Unfortunately, Ulrika's website with her key finder app is no longer online, so you'd need to get your friend's key yourself first before trying it.

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Ghoti Nyak

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01-27-2006 13:19

I dunno if that would work. Both of the following email 'keys' are from the same person (key changed at end... just in case

), sent to me at different dates. It seems if you keep an IM session going, the number is the same... and it might be for longer than that... but time indeed changes the 'key'.

[email]8ee5d652-744f-d8ac-5fa7-469808a2XXXX@im.secondlife.com[/email]
[email]c23007dd-50b6-080c-57b3-231a1cf9XXXX@im.secondlife.com[/email]

-Ghoti

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Jim Lumiere

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Join date: 24 May 2004

Posts: 474

01-27-2006 13:20

From: George Flan

Thanks, have it set already, I just thought this was a way that I could talk to my friends if I look at my friends list then use it. Your right it does work that way but only if they contact me first by IM...I was looking for a way of doing it by email with me contacting them first...Again thanks

Just hang onto an old message, and :reply: to it again, and again, whenever you want to start a new conversation. Just delete all the old stuff from the body.

I do this with text messaging all the time, because, for whatever reason, its easier for me.

Ghoti Nyak

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Posts: 2,078

01-27-2006 13:34

I tried to reply to one of those keys I posted and got a return mail:

From: someone

This is the Postfix program at host data.agni.lindenlab.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The Postfix program

-Ghoti

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Theo Lament

In Perpetua Designs

Join date: 30 May 2004

Posts: 68

01-27-2006 13:56

I use the email to world trick all the time.

I have found that the address "times out" after about two or three days. So you need to keep a fresh from world message to use as your reply address.

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Pham Neutra

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Join date: 25 Jan 2005

Posts: 478

01-28-2006 09:47

From: Cory Edo

I had a theory (never tested) that you could put the person's key in the format of the email address, like such:

<f54cbc8f-ed14-8b29-5c79-x987347383927@im.secondlife.com>
(NOT A REAL KEY!)

Sorry to disappoint you, but this only works with UIDs of objects, not avatars.

When an AV sends you an IM that gets forwarded to you, a unique message ID is generated for that IM. You can reply to that but only for some 48 hours. The algorithm that generates these IDs is not public. Otherwise it would bei just to easy to spam every resident whose UID you have - and they are not really hard to find out.

Cory Edo

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Join date: 26 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,851

01-28-2006 09:49

Well, there goes that theory out the window. *puts it in closet with cold fusion theory*

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Pham Neutra

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Posts: 478

01-28-2006 10:06

From: Cory Edo

Well, there goes that theory out the window. *puts it in closet with cold fusion theory*

What was that quote? "It was a good idea while it lasted."?

Ehhmm ... Could you maybe send me over that cold fusion theory of yours? You'll never know. Maybe there is just a little detail to be finetuned ...

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George Flan Registered User Join date: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 268	01-27-2006 10:04 Can anyone tell me anything about the product called "The Envoy"? From what I read in the SL Exchange ad it is suppose to allow "me" to send email from work (where I can't have SL) to a friend who is in-world in SL. Would like to find out if this really works.
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	01-27-2006 10:38 If you have SL configured to forward IMs to email, all your friend has to do is start a conversation by sending you an IM, which will get sent from SL to your email account. You can just reply to the email and it goes into SL and looks to them like an IM. Presumably, this system you're talking about somehow facilitates this. Never used it, dont know. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
George Flan Registered User Join date: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 268	Thank You 01-27-2006 11:41 Thanks, have it set already, I just thought this was a way that I could talk to my friends if I look at my friends list then use it. Your right it does work that way but only if they contact me first by IM...I was looking for a way of doing it by email with me contacting them first...Again thanks
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	01-27-2006 12:06 I had a theory (never tested) that you could put the person's key in the format of the email address, like such: <f54cbc8f-ed14-8b29-5c79-x987347383927@im.secondlife.com> (NOT A REAL KEY!) and then send the message directly from your email address. Unfortunately, Ulrika's website with her key finder app is no longer online, so you'd need to get your friend's key yourself first before trying it. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	01-27-2006 13:19 I dunno if that would work. Both of the following email 'keys' are from the same person (key changed at end... just in case ), sent to me at different dates. It seems if you keep an IM session going, the number is the same... and it might be for longer than that... but time indeed changes the 'key'. [email]8ee5d652-744f-d8ac-5fa7-469808a2XXXX@im.secondlife.com[/email] [email]c23007dd-50b6-080c-57b3-231a1cf9XXXX@im.secondlife.com[/email] -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Jim Lumiere Registered User Join date: 24 May 2004 Posts: 474	01-27-2006 13:20 From: George Flan Thanks, have it set already, I just thought this was a way that I could talk to my friends if I look at my friends list then use it. Your right it does work that way but only if they contact me first by IM...I was looking for a way of doing it by email with me contacting them first...Again thanks Just hang onto an old message, and :reply: to it again, and again, whenever you want to start a new conversation. Just delete all the old stuff from the body. I do this with text messaging all the time, because, for whatever reason, its easier for me.
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	01-27-2006 13:34 I tried to reply to one of those keys I posted and got a return mail: From: someone This is the Postfix program at host data.agni.lindenlab.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Theo Lament In Perpetua Designs Join date: 30 May 2004 Posts: 68	01-27-2006 13:56 I use the email to world trick all the time. I have found that the address "times out" after about two or three days. So you need to keep a fresh from world message to use as your reply address. _____________________
Pham Neutra Registered User Join date: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 478	01-28-2006 09:47 From: Cory Edo I had a theory (never tested) that you could put the person's key in the format of the email address, like such: <f54cbc8f-ed14-8b29-5c79-x987347383927@im.secondlife.com> (NOT A REAL KEY!) Sorry to disappoint you, but this only works with UIDs of objects, not avatars. When an AV sends you an IM that gets forwarded to you, a unique message ID is generated for that IM. You can reply to that but only for some 48 hours. The algorithm that generates these IDs is not public. Otherwise it would bei just to easy to spam every resident whose UID you have - and they are not really hard to find out.
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	01-28-2006 09:49 Well, there goes that theory out the window. puts it in closet with cold fusion theory _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Pham Neutra Registered User Join date: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 478	01-28-2006 10:06 From: Cory Edo Well, there goes that theory out the window. puts it in closet with cold fusion theory What was that quote? "It was a good idea while it lasted."? Ehhmm ... Could you maybe send me over that cold fusion theory of yours? You'll never know. Maybe there is just a little detail to be finetuned ...

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