Scam Camping Chairs

There are new scams cropping up daily. This is dated June 23, I didnt see it mentioned here so I am shareing it. Beware...

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4098

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<<Last night, I got one of the free self contained camping chairs. The function of the camping chair was clear. I set it on my property. I then logged off. I logged on this morning to find all my lindens had been taken from me by the chair's creator. The creator's AV is >>name deleted <<, but after I reprted the incident his account has been removed.

Now I have to wait for customer service to get around to investigating. Shouldn't Linden staff have a security team to go after things like this? This is clearly a fradulent transaction, an act of theft.

The chair's purpose was clearly stated. It was supposed to pay people who sat on it a certain amount at a certain rate that I, the owner, set. It did not say that if i put the camping chair on my property, the creator would take all my linden's from me.

This is outrageous and should make the entire sl community upset.>>

Nevermind, I misunderstood.

I'm not sure what LL can do in this matter, as we tried to report a guy that did something similar before. I can't find his account anymore, so maybe he did get banned/deleted after all. Anyways for future knowledge, you should sit in the chair with 10 or 20 lindens on you to see if it's legit.

I've never seen LL deal out justice that fast. It's quite possible the scammer when found out, cashed out and cancelled his account.

Either way, I'd give the chair to LL and have them investigate the source code to see if it has any other of the scammer's alts listed as a possbile next in target to send $.

Lindens are able to read the code on any object and determine if it has malicious code. Once when I was being attacked by self replication objects, one of the Lindens came over, scanned the script for the UUID and checked the code to see what else it did.

Don't delete the chair, but try to contact live help and get a Linden to check it out.

Buy from reputable and trustworthy creators, or make you're own. It's not everyone's business to be concerned with the news that someone got scammed.


...especially not when dealing with camping chairs...

Easy answer.... don't use or buy camping chairs, the things are a waste of time and damaging to SL.

Anything that promises "easy money" rarely turns out to be as intended. Don't take that risk.

Lewis

friggin exellent ^^ i hope to see more of these, it might discourage peoples to use camping chairs

As much as i hate seeing people get scammed, and as much as i hate greifers.. i'm inclined to agree.

Gaming the developer incentives came first and annoyed the f*ck outta me ever since this idea came out.

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I wouldn't care if they were newbie chairs, ala money trees, but they aren't used by newbies a lot of the time. It encourages absentee play, loads down the sims with people who are not active, games a system that (thanks to camping), no longer does anything near what it was intended to.
Camping devices violate the spirit of developer incentives and should be removed.

Damaging like the way they enable new players to get a taste of SL's content without having to risk money, thus drawing them in and making it more likely they'll stay playing and either a: buy L$ to spend or b: become premium members...

Yeah... I can see how that would damage SL.



But yes, make sure you use reputable creators for ANYTHING that will be taking money from you.

Regardless of your personal opinions, this is not the point. As far as I know, even though you may dislike them, using camping chairs is not against the TOS. Scamming someone and actually stealing all their money (this is not a case of a chair not paying out) is a violation, and the point of this thread.

Let's not forget that they are the main cause of the welfare reliance, and the removal of DI and dwell. They have done more damage than almost anything else.

I maintain that free unlimited open registration was a bad move. Now we have that hardware hash thing, why couldn't it be that your first account got you the $500 startup and $50 stipend, and any subsequent basic accounts on that same hardware hash got you no money? That would solve account farming issues, and give legitimate new accounts their play money to start up.



How will new players know that though?

Lewis

They don't violate the TOS, but just because something's legal doesn't make it right.

The entire dev incentives program was ruined thanks to these things.

You should know better than this.



Ok, fair enough, but i still have very little sympathy for those that put camping chairs on their land.

Common sense?

Don't get me wrong, guys - I am not defending camping! I am on the fence about that but starting to lean more towards your side. It's just that the rightness or wrongness of it is not the point. The theft, which is clearly a violation of the TOS, is.

And I don't totally know better yet. You will still find me wandering around with a box on my head or a guitar impaling me from time to time.

.... isn't that common. Besides, think back to when you were new. Did you understand that the debit permissions thing wasn't secure? Did you trust people because they appeared more experienced than you?

My guess is "no" and "yes" is the common answer from most people.

Lewis

Camping chairs are evil and anyone who touches them deserves to have all their money stolen off them and then burnt alive.

I agree with the opinions about camping chairs. But I posted this just to warn the community about another scam. We are seeing more and more criminals entering SL, whose primary purpose is to find ways to steal your money. We all need to be aware of these activities, otherwise you could be next.

I'm glad i barely ever buy anything from anyone. It's gona get to the point where you can end up buying a cube for L$10000, rez it, and lose the rest of your money... If i ever buy anything that requests to take money from me, it better be open source so i can check it...

That's one good thing that came out of the implimentation of Fastpay. I have a freebie item called the HiBrid Vendor Kit, that i give away and have at freebie locations. When FastPay was added i no longer needed a debit request function in it. Now customers have no way of paying the wrong ammount hehe. So you don't have to click yes on a dialog when you rez it, and its open source if you don't trust it.