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Gwyneth Llewelyn

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Join date: 31 Jul 2004

Posts: 1,336

02-11-2006 19:04

This was just briefly mentioned inside the SL Linux open alpha client discussion forums, so I guess it's time it gets "prime time" on the General forum:

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/10/2116216

From: someone

strredwolf writes "Linden Labs has opened up the native Linux client to all users. This is an alpha version, though -- it has a lot of bugs and many hard edges. Prelim reports on the Linux client forums include: NVidia cards are better supported over ATI; get the latest drivers working in 24/32 bit color; some file editing to tweak settings is worth it; no sound; no file uploading; no texture downloading."

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Jeffrey Gomez

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Join date: 11 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,522

02-11-2006 19:12

I've been for the most part impressed by the stability and usability of the alpha client. Assuming the bugs are ironed out and the client gets proper support (something Don mentioned will happen), I'd think twice before switching back to the Win32 version.

Though, by opening the client to Linux, they've pretty much opened the floodgate to a whole slew of "homebrew" configurations. Not sure how that'll pan out in the support side of things.

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splat1 Edison

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Join date: 6 Sep 2004

Posts: 353

02-12-2006 02:29

Lets just hope all go's well.

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Edward Wolfe

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Join date: 12 Jan 2005

Posts: 15

02-12-2006 02:42

Round of applause for the Lindens. =)
I'm extremely happy about the client and the bugs are easily outweighed by the extra performance i've been getting.
Good job.

FlipperPA Peregrine

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Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,703

02-12-2006 07:47

Might be time to finally ditch Windoze on the desktops instead of being a Linux server boy.

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Farsyte Poindexter

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Join date: 21 Jan 2006

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02-12-2006 21:12

I'm fairly new around here -- and "is there a Linux client" was one of the
first questions I asked inside SL after I started getting comforatable.

You see, I had run across something that indicated that the SL servers
are running Debian Linux -- leading me to hope.

My attempts to run SL under Wine and Cedega have ranged from
too slow to ... well, a blank screen.

Eboni Khan

Misanthrope

Join date: 17 Mar 2004

Posts: 2,133

02-12-2006 21:23

SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs

Beatfox Xevious

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Join date: 1 Jun 2004

Posts: 879

Linux clients will make more haxxors =/

02-12-2006 22:17

From: Eboni Khan

SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs

There's already one hundred thousand kerjillion haxxors on SecondLife, and now I fear Linux clients will open the floodgates for even more 0_o

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Torley Linden

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

02-12-2006 22:19

I remember when the Linux client for SL was not yet a reality... and I hear many Resis enthused on using it asking, "When will it come?" And now it has! Things like that are always dear to me. While it took awhile in the timeline, for it to be born, like a baby, eyes wide and smiling and drinking digital milk from the mothers of invention, is a truely amazing occurrence indeed.

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Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

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02-12-2006 22:43

thats a hell of a baby to stay in the mother THAT long

i cant wait to try it, but A im no linux guru so i dont wanna fiddle with an alpha version, ill wait till beta (or what normal users of sl call the offical client) comes out and

B in my good ol fashioned timing it came out the week after i moved to a wireless lan card, which my current POS distro doesnt seem to suppot (heh last i checked fedora core wasnt supporting gcc nor my sound blaster live so big suprise there)

Once they get more testing / support done ill have a new distro installed and my wireless woes sorted out so its all good

ps im planning on moving back to either mandrake (cause im lazy) or slackware (cause its good) so if anyone has any suggestions on getting a netgear WG311v2 to work with either would be helpfull, i have private messages enabled (it doesnt even have to run at the 54mb speed, just connect)

Zonax Delorean

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Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 767

02-13-2006 02:02

From: Eboni Khan

SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs

I don't think so. Rather: more scripters, builders, creative people who are willing to experiment with new stuff.

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Zonax Delorean

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Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 767

02-13-2006 02:05

From: Torley Linden

I remember when the Linux client for SL was not yet a reality... and I hear many Resis enthused on using it asking, "When will it come?" And now it has!

I still think it was too early to be on Slashdot. The Linux client is not yet as good as the Windows one.
- No fullscreen (maybe acceptable, for now)
- No video memory detection -- this sucks, because textures won't all render

Only thing that helps is fiddling with settings.ini
- No hotkeys -- This is very very annoying. Though maybe acceptable for new users, for a while.

It still looks promising, but I think it was early for Slashdot.

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Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

What about sound?

02-13-2006 06:23

I was talking to an SLinuxer online yesterday and he said there wasn't any support for the Linux audio software (OSS?) that he used.

Magnum Serpentine

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Join date: 20 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,811

02-13-2006 06:26

From: FlipperPA Peregrine

Might be time to finally ditch Windoze on the desktops instead of being a Linux server boy.

Isn't Linux based upon a 60 year old (Think Vacuum Tubes here) tech called Unix?????

Pretty ancient stuff eh?

Khamon Fate

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Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

02-13-2006 06:47

From: Magnum Serpentine

Isn't Linux based upon a 60 year old (Think Vacuum Tubes here) tech called Unix?????

Pretty ancient stuff eh?

It is yes. Odd that each new Windows release is more UNIX-oriented than the last. Underneath the GUIs, it's getting pretty damn hard to tell them apart. Guess those Ancients got it right the first time.

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Burke Prefect

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Join date: 29 Oct 2004

Posts: 2,785

02-13-2006 07:20

From: Beatfox Xevious

There's already one hundred thousand kerjillion haxxors on SecondLife, and now I fear Linux clients will open the floodgates for even more 0_o

You must be getting your statistics from the homepage map, right?

Now if someone would kindly make a VNCable 'SecondLife Remote Client' so I can pull SL from work.

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Christopher Omega

Oxymoron

Join date: 28 Mar 2003

Posts: 1,828

02-17-2006 18:03

From: Burke Prefect

You must be getting your statistics from the homepage map, right?

Now if someone would kindly make a VNCable 'SecondLife Remote Client' so I can pull SL from work.

Have you tried using VNC with SL? it works decently, though the limited color pallette makes things look ugly. Windows XP remote desktop/terminal services replaces the graphics card driver, so SL will definately not work through that.
I may dabble in VNC's programming if I manage to get my gentoo OS to replace 100% of what my Windows XP system was doing (email, http, no-ip, tomcat, OSMP). My free time is currently occupied by that

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SL Linux open alpha client slashdotted
Gwyneth Llewelyn Winking Loudmouth Join date: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,336	02-11-2006 19:04 This was just briefly mentioned inside the SL Linux open alpha client discussion forums, so I guess it's time it gets "prime time" on the General forum: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/10/2116216 From: someone strredwolf writes "Linden Labs has opened up the native Linux client to all users. This is an alpha version, though -- it has a lot of bugs and many hard edges. Prelim reports on the Linux client forums include: NVidia cards are better supported over ATI; get the latest drivers working in 24/32 bit color; some file editing to tweak settings is worth it; no sound; no file uploading; no texture downloading." Welcome, SLinuxers Successfully installed SLinux on a PIII@550 MHz, 256 MB of RAM, Riva TNT2, Ubuntu 5.0.4 + Nvidia drivers, and it runs at 5-6 fps on almost-minimal settings — not bad for a completely outdated 5-year-old machine! _____________________
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	02-11-2006 19:12 I've been for the most part impressed by the stability and usability of the alpha client. Assuming the bugs are ironed out and the client gets proper support (something Don mentioned will happen), I'd think twice before switching back to the Win32 version. Though, by opening the client to Linux, they've pretty much opened the floodgate to a whole slew of "homebrew" configurations. Not sure how that'll pan out in the support side of things. _____________________ ---
splat1 Edison Registerd Nut Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 353	02-12-2006 02:29 Lets just hope all go's well. _____________________ Splat Soft - We exsist in the RL to! Gigas Bunny (Mule) #### You see, our experts describe you as an appallingly dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, lacking in initiative, spineless, easily dominated, no sense of humour, tedious company and irrepressibly drab and awful. And whereas in most professions these would be considerable drawbacks, in chartered accountancy they are a positive boon.
Edward Wolfe Registered User Join date: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 15	02-12-2006 02:42 Round of applause for the Lindens. =) I'm extremely happy about the client and the bugs are easily outweighed by the extra performance i've been getting. Good job.
FlipperPA Peregrine Magically Delicious! Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,703	02-12-2006 07:47 Might be time to finally ditch Windoze on the desktops instead of being a Linux server boy. _____________________ Peregrine Salon: www.PeregrineSalon.com - my consulting company Second Blogger: www.SecondBlogger.com - free, fully integrated Second Life blogging for all avatars!
Farsyte Poindexter Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 1	02-12-2006 21:12 I'm fairly new around here -- and "is there a Linux client" was one of the first questions I asked inside SL after I started getting comforatable. You see, I had run across something that indicated that the SL servers are running Debian Linux -- leading me to hope. My attempts to run SL under Wine and Cedega have ranged from too slow to ... well, a blank screen.
Eboni Khan Misanthrope Join date: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 2,133	02-12-2006 21:23 SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	Linux clients will make more haxxors =/ 02-12-2006 22:17 From: Eboni Khan SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs There's already one hundred thousand kerjillion haxxors on SecondLife, and now I fear Linux clients will open the floodgates for even more 0_o _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	02-12-2006 22:19 I remember when the Linux client for SL was not yet a reality... and I hear many Resis enthused on using it asking, "When will it come?" And now it has! Things like that are always dear to me. While it took awhile in the timeline, for it to be born, like a baby, eyes wide and smiling and drinking digital milk from the mothers of invention, is a truely amazing occurrence indeed. _____________________
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	02-12-2006 22:43 thats a hell of a baby to stay in the mother THAT long i cant wait to try it, but A im no linux guru so i dont wanna fiddle with an alpha version, ill wait till beta (or what normal users of sl call the offical client) comes out and B in my good ol fashioned timing it came out the week after i moved to a wireless lan card, which my current POS distro doesnt seem to suppot (heh last i checked fedora core wasnt supporting gcc nor my sound blaster live so big suprise there) Once they get more testing / support done ill have a new distro installed and my wireless woes sorted out so its all good ps im planning on moving back to either mandrake (cause im lazy) or slackware (cause its good) so if anyone has any suggestions on getting a netgear WG311v2 to work with either would be helpfull, i have private messages enabled (it doesnt even have to run at the 54mb speed, just connect)
Zonax Delorean Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 767	02-13-2006 02:02 From: Eboni Khan SL on Linux = more Haxx0rs I don't think so. Rather: more scripters, builders, creative people who are willing to experiment with new stuff. _____________________
Zonax Delorean Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 767	02-13-2006 02:05 From: Torley Linden I remember when the Linux client for SL was not yet a reality... and I hear many Resis enthused on using it asking, "When will it come?" And now it has! I still think it was too early to be on Slashdot. The Linux client is not yet as good as the Windows one. - No fullscreen (maybe acceptable, for now) - No video memory detection -- this sucks, because textures won't all render Only thing that helps is fiddling with settings.ini - No hotkeys -- This is very very annoying. Though maybe acceptable for new users, for a while. It still looks promising, but I think it was early for Slashdot. _____________________
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	What about sound? 02-13-2006 06:23 I was talking to an SLinuxer online yesterday and he said there wasn't any support for the Linux audio software (OSS?) that he used.
Magnum Serpentine Registered User Join date: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,811	02-13-2006 06:26 From: FlipperPA Peregrine Might be time to finally ditch Windoze on the desktops instead of being a Linux server boy. Isn't Linux based upon a 60 year old (Think Vacuum Tubes here) tech called Unix????? Pretty ancient stuff eh?
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	02-13-2006 06:47 From: Magnum Serpentine Isn't Linux based upon a 60 year old (Think Vacuum Tubes here) tech called Unix????? Pretty ancient stuff eh? It is yes. Odd that each new Windows release is more UNIX-oriented than the last. Underneath the GUIs, it's getting pretty damn hard to tell them apart. Guess those Ancients got it right the first time. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	02-13-2006 07:20 From: Beatfox Xevious There's already one hundred thousand kerjillion haxxors on SecondLife, and now I fear Linux clients will open the floodgates for even more 0_o You must be getting your statistics from the homepage map, right? Now if someone would kindly make a VNCable 'SecondLife Remote Client' so I can pull SL from work. _____________________ My Blog \| My Board \| My Cafe\| My Slex
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	02-17-2006 18:03 From: Burke Prefect You must be getting your statistics from the homepage map, right? Now if someone would kindly make a VNCable 'SecondLife Remote Client' so I can pull SL from work. Have you tried using VNC with SL? it works decently, though the limited color pallette makes things look ugly. Windows XP remote desktop/terminal services replaces the graphics card driver, so SL will definately not work through that. I may dabble in VNC's programming if I manage to get my gentoo OS to replace 100% of what my Windows XP system was doing (email, http, no-ip, tomcat, OSMP). My free time is currently occupied by that ==Chris _____________________ October 3rd is the Day Against DRM (Digital Restrictions Management), learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm

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