nOOb crime wave overblown

Man, I almost can't stand the forums anymore. Between pissing and moaning about the most recent update, high-seas piracy, and the alleged "nOOb crime wave", its enough to make me want to shut off the forums and read something really boring like George W. Bush's speaches. And I dislike GWB!!

Honestly, there is NO nOOb crime wave. I bet if you took the old incidence of griefing and multiplied it by the change in the number of new accounts, you'd find the incidence rate is holding steady.

Perhaps it seems like its skyrocketing because there are just simply MUCH more people around. Of course more people will bring more griefers, but its not like 100% of new accounts are firebombing SL. Gawd.

/rant off.

I like the forums.... cause a good comeback doesn't disappear in 15 seconds...

/bling on

.. start your engines...

Now, thats hilarious!

The problem with this is that I can disagree with you, having provided just as much support to my claim as you have to yours, simply by saying, "I bet you're wrong."

Well yeah, but still... c'mon. Its overblown.

I don't think it's overblown. The percentages may have increased only slightly but due to concentration the problem is phenomenally worse in those areas.

Some places get no griefing at all. But certain places attract griefers like a black hole. Now if you factor in that such places did not increase in number proportionally to the total population (since most of the new accounts are unverified) what we get is a massive increase in the intensity and frequency of the attacks in those locations.

No. It was not overblown. In any sense of the word. Our area, as well as The Shelter, and NCI, were completely overrun.

The Help Islands have also been stressed to their limit, as have the Livehelp, Mentor and Greeter groups.

In-world liaisons will probably agree with me here: the upsurge in griefing was *not* imagined, nor overblown.

It has decreased *significantly* now with the new ban heights and increased ban list -- simply because now griefing is less 'easy' and less 'fun'.

But before these tools hit, and after the Open Registration happened, yes, there was an almost unmanageable wave certain areas had to deal with.

Remember that SL is a big place -- too often people say that something doesn't happen, just because they haven't seen it personally.

Honestly I can't agree it's overblown. Before registration opened up our sim ban list had only a few names on it, now it's at it's limit. The thing is that the majority of idiots aren't really the drop bombs type, those are maybe one in ten. The majority are the ones who show up trying to cause verbal grief, taunting members, hitting on women in vulgar ways, mocking the type of community we have, etc. It's not even the kind of intelligent (for lack of a better word) griefers who crash grids, it's more like a wave of braindead morons have moved in.

Well, starting tomorrow, land owners can ban llpush, so LL has effectively eliminated the griefing problem

They'll find new ways. This will, however, make it a bit tougher on them.

It won't eliminate it. But I agree, it is a step in the right direction.

Truly good news about the push=ban.

The situation, however, I really don't think is overblown. I've heard too many stories from people to think that it is in any way overblown.

After spending hours of my online time having to do LL's job I need to send them a bill for having to deal with the 'tards flood that has made me not want to come on any more. Griefers have killed my inner child with a chainsaw and meathooks.

Well worded and accurate post.

Im not going jump on bandwagon and say all non-registereds are the evil end of SL (business week arcticle earned that distinction.) Actually in last few days I met a brand new player thats unreg'ed and quite enjoyable person to hang with. Ive spent last few days teaching her everything I know about SL.

Im not going to get into specifics, but today while in a sandbox giving a building lesson; I had to ask in live help how to handle/report a griefer for first time in over 2 years of SL.... I honestly didnt know the procedure cause Ive never felt the need to. The worst thing is it wasnt isolated to just that instance. It happened three times over the 2 hours we was there. I dont even think it was the same person, since I checked and the original offender was still online.

None these was the nuke/push/attack type attacks. I was purely verbal and just childish a$$ stunts. The sad thing is when hit profile all 3 people was unverified and less then 4 days old

No kidding really? Excellent.

The mainland does get hit more, but i find myself banning 2-6 people a day in Fur Valley/Serenity Woods. Before 6/6/6 i would barely have to ban like 1 every 2 weeks.

I can only imagine what furnation has to endure, but it's their problem now since they choose to ignore any help. The admins refused to reply or even thank me for giving them some of my notes on griefers... I gave copies to 5 officers. You would think 1 of them would reply. So their on their own now... Atleast i got replies from all the other furry places i gave them to.

No I don't want to hold anything against people who genuinely (sp?) are just new either, I hope I don't get like that.

Late last night I logged in to see if my partner was around and found a newbie building prims next to my store, just random shapes and playing with them. At first I acted all annoyed and mean "You shouldn't just build on people's land". (Hey it was one am I was tired)
He proceeds to apologize saying he just wanted a place to practice where no one would shoot him or make fun of him.

I felt bad so I let him stay and gave him some free building advice before I left. See even the newbies are running away from the sandboxes.

Maybe it's not the noob crime wave.

But it could possibly be the alt crime wave, or crime wave by people who have played SL earlier, or still play on teen grid.

Cause, a true noob would to learn to grief (takes a time), and by then he/she would have found sex0r and wasted 2 months as a gorean slave or a furry or an age player.... etc.

I believe it is being Overblown as well. I am out and about a Great deal, and I'm not being griefed any more Now than i was a Year and a Half ago.

Sure there is usually a New scam of the week, or someone has a New toy to test, But i haven't seen any Measurable Increase.

Angel.

So you think pushing is the only form of griefing? If so, your experience here is limited Cow Hand.

10 minutes before todays grid update before it went down, a throwaway account entered our sim with a watermellon launcher. When asked to put it away he imediatly launched 5-6 of them at a officer. This officer was protected against push though, and quickly froze the new account. I ejected it, as he estate banned it. I guess it was just some narks way of getting in 1 last push before its disabled.

Very true, noob is probably just being used as a catch all classification. But I disagree about it taking time for them to learn to grief. Takes time to learn to grief with style yes.... the being a ass part of griefing they got well trained in playing WoW.