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This is getting rather excessive

Amaya Summers
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Join date: 9 Mar 2006
Posts: 56
04-15-2006 21:16
I'm concerned about teh ammount of time it's taking getting the ddo's under controll. Are there not any firewalls in place? I have been waiting 5 hours now and from what I have been reading it's been going on much longer then that and nothing is being updated in teh announcements forums except that you are workign on this.

Are we sure this is a ddos or did something go bunk during updates yesterday? I ask because of the mixed messages I am getting from the game interface, the forum and announcments and because from tiem to time I see people on my friends list on line when it clearly says that log in is restricted to LIndens only. Rather confused here.

We are paying good money to play a game. I see no reason why proper resources are in place to inform folks what is going on and keep the commitment to keep us informed .. especially if you are creating a place that enables actual businesses to operate through a game interface and it's clearly encouraged for businesses to do so.

I would say that some form of compensation is warrented. can be anything from a bonus linden payout on the week the service is interupted for more then 2 hours without adequate notice posted in announcments or something like that. This would exclude regulare maintance of course that is properly announced.

I kow techs are tired and grumpy and just wnat to enjoy a happy easter, and I also know that those investing in teh game both in time, money and resources are getting frustrated too. We need to find that happy medium and be prepared for these things instead of waiting and hopoing they don't happen.

Amaya
Michi Lumin
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Join date: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,793
04-15-2006 21:22
you're part of history being made. This attack will be talked about years from now. Don't you want to be part of history?
Enabran Templar
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Posts: 4,506
04-15-2006 23:20
yes, there are firewalls, but you see, the attackers hacked teh gibson!
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Aaron Levy
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
04-15-2006 23:21
Leeeeeeroy Jennnnnnnnnnnnkins!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amaya Summers
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Join date: 9 Mar 2006
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04-16-2006 06:46
Michi.. no.. not part of the kind of history where script kiddies spend to much time jamming signals for no real apparent reason except attention . Sad thing is , they are only waisting their tallent for no good reason. and talkign about them just gives them credit where it isn't deserved.
Michi Lumin
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Join date: 14 Oct 2003
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04-16-2006 07:28
Amaya, ok. To break out of cynical mode, I guess my point is that some of us have seen this happen enough times -- with nothing really done about it afterwards -- that we're a bit jaded about it.

The reason why it takes so long to restore service is because these kids pick the least opportune times (weekend nights) to pull it off. Someone has to be paged out of bed, and they have to drive in to work to get this under control.
Adrian Zobel
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Join date: 4 Jan 2006
Posts: 49
04-16-2006 07:45
Linden Lab is a small company, completely internet-dependent, that just announced a big infusion of cash. Plus they have a history of leaving bugs unfixed and glossing over security concerns. It's hard to imagine a riper target for ddos racketeering.

When you say "script kiddies spend to much time jamming signals for no real apparent reason except attention" and "waisting their tallent for no good reason" you could be way off.
PetGirl Bergman
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04-16-2006 07:48
I feel with the guys that must take care of al this a weekend and al... I pay as al.. but I can live with this.. BUT crocks and bastards cant be included as a cost... but to take care of it prob must..

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Amaya Summers
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Join date: 9 Mar 2006
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04-16-2006 15:26
Michi and Adrian

Believe me I do understand. YOu odn't have to be mega huge to be successvul though. As far as ddos is concerned.. tehre is always a pattern to them.. always espcially with a target that is populare.

The only mistake LL is making is they are not covering their bases before trying to add more into teh game. Gotta learn from history especially from one's own erors in order to become wise and resourceful. With this latest attact, we already knew they happen at least oppertune times right? Then technically it's not wise to add new features or attempt to bug hunt and fix right before that time arrives.

Down time is a given with the internet, it's learning how to bend, predict and have a backup plan and most of all timing and a good dose of perserverence.

Research is also important. BElieve me, I've been behind teh scenes during a ddos at a hosting company. I have worked with behind teh scenes tech's before, during and after attacks and have learned much and they too have learned. DDOS is now something that appears seamless during day to day operations. They are there,, but the techs have learned how to bend with them and find resources that make it seem like the ddos isn't even happening. It CAN be done. There is a huge learning curve though and lots of trial and error but that's how humans learn best anyways.

As far as my coment about script kidies and such .. I"m not wrong. It however isn't ALWAYS the case but is most common. DDOS is complex to execute and many resources are needed on the initiators end. BTW. they are easy to trace too to the original initiator.

Some countries it is a prosecutable crime to commit DDOS and interfering with an internet business and if caught it can mean seriouse consequences for teh individual. I will not say where, or what is involved in this becuase the *kiddies* can also read this forum. not about to tip them off or help them.