No pie answer, its a serious poll

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Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
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02-10-2006 19:22
OK to to get an idea of what majority of forum users think its wrong, just a quick poll..
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Noh Rinkitink
Just some Nohbody
Join date: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 572
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02-11-2006 08:41
No pie answer, its a serious poll ![]() Dammit, you've ruined my desire to participate! ![]() Seriously, a part of me is idly curious as to who voted for the non-1 options (especially the one who voted "other" but didn't explain what they meant by that vote, in spite of the poll item specifically saying to do so), but I can see where not using the option (if available on this particular implementation of vBulletin 3.x, as it's an admin-selectable option) to list who voted what is a good decision. If nothing else, not revealing who voted what cuts down on claims (and the dramarama that inevitably follows) that those who voted for other options are going to be griefed or otherwise persecuted for their vote because the software "outed" them. ![]() |
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Joy Honey
Not just another dumass
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 3,751
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02-11-2006 08:45
The ONLY time this would be acceptable is when the creator of the freebies gives the OK to sell them (and I am not talking about selling stuff for $1L).
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Sean Martin
Yesnomaybe.
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 584
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02-11-2006 09:02
I voted for pie anyway
![]() Hmm I had another thought. I bet people make freebies and turn around to sell them with an alt acount. Just to make people mad. ![]() Watching others get mad over stuff is a big business. They get payed in laughter. Heh I guess they would get a bit of money out of their stuff anyway. hmh I wonder if any actually do that thou. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,492
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02-11-2006 09:38
I voted for pie anyway ![]() Hmm I had another thought. I bet people make freebies and turn around to sell them with an alt acount. Just to make people mad. ![]() Watching others get mad over stuff is a big business. They get payed in laughter. Heh I guess they would get a bit of money out of their stuff anyway. hmh I wonder if any actually do that thou. Thanks. I've been trying to think on why I am no longer an immediate and automatic vote for #1. It's the drahma factor. This issue keeps coming up; it's not against the TOS, it is a moral, do the right thing issue. The Bush signs are but another in a long line of land extortion attempts; it's not against the TOS, it is a moral, do the right thing issue. First land owners continue to not research land values before selling low and being taken advantage of; it's not against the TOS, it is a moral, do the right thing issue. Land is scooped up from people stumbling through the land transaction process; it's not against the TOS, it is a moral, do the right thing issue. On and on and on.There are a lot of people who do not do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. That's why any society, business, organization, or gathering greater than one develops rules. The transient nature of SL existence, the insistence upon anonymity, the acceptability of alts, not the mention the very basic difficulty of even finding anything here does not allow for the social pressure to be an effective tool. So what is the point of this poll? It totally ignores the basic reality that it is not against the TOS and that people can set their freebies to no transfer and it moves on to the drahma of saying "shame on you". Morality is not a big priority in SL. It just isn't. Why get riled up or pretend to be shocked about it? I voted that it's an okay thing to do because if asked that is what LL would say. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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02-11-2006 11:42
I voted other. So long as there's no fraud involved (including changing the permissions so the recipient can't pass them on), it'd be no different than selling a landmark to the location you can get the product for free.
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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02-11-2006 13:22
I voted other. So long as there's no fraud involved (including changing the permissions so the recipient can't pass them on), it'd be no different than selling a landmark to the location you can get the product for free. Your reasoning is a bit puzzling to me. Are you thinking that people who disapprove of this practice would find it acceptable to sell landmarks? _____________________
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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02-11-2006 14:14
Your reasoning is a bit puzzling to me. Are you thinking that people who disapprove of this practice would find it acceptable to sell landmarks? _____________________
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Sean Martin
Yesnomaybe.
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 584
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02-13-2006 09:44
I suspect the point was, the service being paid for is the convenience of having the item right there, no further effort required by the shopper. It's a valid concept - though from an ethical standpoint I believe it should be made very clear that is what is being paid for. If it must exist that would make sense. So long as they know what is going on it really is up to those two people. But selling to get profit and using it as a white lie by not telling them it's free elsewhere. heh no. If I knew that Sears sold something for $100 and the exact same thing is sold at Walmart for $50.(I mean same quality and everything) Then I'll chose Wallyworld, er Wallmart. ![]() Even if its a much farther distance to drive. Let alone if the item was FREE _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-13-2006 10:30
Your reasoning is a bit puzzling to me. Are you thinking that people who disapprove of this practice would find it acceptable to sell landmarks? I'm puzzled, seriously. Let's suppose I created a landmarks to all the places I think are cool, and I set out a vendor selling them for L$50, you'd AR me? So long as there's no fraud involved (and that's an imporant point, don't set it aside), what's the problem? |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-13-2006 10:35
If I knew that Sears sold something for $100 and the exact same thing is sold at Walmart for $50.(I mean same quality and everything) Then I'll chose Wallyworld, er Wallmart. ![]() Even if its a much farther distance to drive. Let alone if the item was FREE Hell, I've done that when I was reasonably sure I had that texture somewhere in my inventory and didn't want to spend the time sorting through all the files with helpful names like "texi0246"... |