Second Life Forums Archive - not "why was my thread closed"

StoneSelf Karuna

His Grace

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02-03-2006 13:43

From: someone

This thread seems to violate the rules of posting asking "why was my thread closed" / "why did I receive a warning".

on a techinicality i think that ll is stretching things there, and i'm really disappointed with the resmod that flagged it.

lektor wasn't talking about why he got a warning. nor was he appealing it.

he was criticizing ll for wasting time on doing a bad job moderating the forums when there are more pressing things out there.

ll should just say, "don't say bad things about us or our decisions."

Mulch Ennui

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02-03-2006 13:45

agreed

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Taco Rubio

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02-03-2006 13:51

/signed.

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Magdalene Steele

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02-03-2006 14:06

I agree ... we are crossing into the grounds of being prohibited to speak about disciplinary actions. I read the thread again and really see only a "ranting" not questions being asked. While the "ranting" might not be appreciated ~ it did not bring up the topic from the former post and it did not question the reasons for the action that was taken.

Honestly, if the posting rules are changing - someone needs to write a handbook for us ...

Lecktor Hannibal

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02-03-2006 14:06

THANK YOU!!

FWIW I sent a PM to THE MODERATOR and got the same bullshit back.

meh

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Cristiano Midnight

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02-03-2006 14:11

Agreed, the thread should not have been locked.

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Moopf Murray

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02-03-2006 14:14

Damn straight.

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Pendari Lorentz

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02-03-2006 14:19

One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts *can* get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time.

Lecktor Hannibal

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02-03-2006 14:20

... or forever in this case for a bullshit interpretation of TOS/CS.

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StoneSelf Karuna

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Join date: 13 Jun 2004

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02-03-2006 14:21

From: Pendari Lorentz

One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts *can* get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time.

you did a bad job.

Metawraith Mistral

Ghost in the Machine

Join date: 26 Sep 2005

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02-03-2006 14:23

Simplest solution is to treat these forums as READ ONLY, just peruse the Linden ANNOUNCEMENTS threads only, and only post to the SLUNIVERSE forums instead.

Aaron Levy

Medicated Lately?

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

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02-03-2006 14:24

From: Pendari Lorentz

One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts *can* get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time.

Stupid. Not you -- the whole program. You're tasked to close threads that maybe in violation -- that might be -- that could be -- that, well, YOU THINK IS, or else you wouldn't have closed it.

The thread in question shouldn't have been closed by YOU or the LINDEN who also misinterpreted it.

Bullshit. Shinanigans! I cry shinanigans! Shinanigans!

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Siggy Romulus

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02-03-2006 14:24

I agree - was gonna ask why - but figured that would one of those 'your questioning our judgement' posts and would be closed

But eh - tex gots them an itchy triggerfinger nowadays..

Then again I see shit moved to off-topic all the time that's clearly about Second Life and obvervations of SecondLife...

I guess my 'give a shit' just done up and busted.

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Gabe Lippmann

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02-03-2006 14:42

From: StoneSelf Karuna

you did a bad job.

This is debatable. The mod can only do what they think is right and, if wrong, it is an unconvenience. However, the entirety of the permanent lockage falls on LL. While anyone may have interpreted the TOS differently as applied to the thread in question, LL made the call.

However, repeated beratings may make the RMs gunshy, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

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StoneSelf Karuna

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02-03-2006 14:53

From: Gabe Lippmann

This is debatable. The mod can only do what they think is right and, if wrong, it is an unconvenience. However, the entirety of the permanent lockage falls on LL. While anyone may have interpreted the TOS differently as applied to the thread in question, LL made the call.

of course it's debatable. it's my opinion. i'd be worried if ya'll went with my opinions.
however, it isn't simply "ll makes the final decision". it's the power to place the decision before ll in the first place.

From: someone

However, repeated beratings may make the RMs gunshy, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

the highest ethic is that which restricts least.

not "why was my thread closed"
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	02-03-2006 13:43 From: someone This thread seems to violate the rules of posting asking "why was my thread closed" / "why did I receive a warning". on a techinicality i think that ll is stretching things there, and i'm really disappointed with the resmod that flagged it. lektor wasn't talking about why he got a warning. nor was he appealing it. he was criticizing ll for wasting time on doing a bad job moderating the forums when there are more pressing things out there. ll should just say, "don't say bad things about us or our decisions."
Mulch Ennui 15 Minutes are Over Join date: 22 May 2005 Posts: 2,607	02-03-2006 13:45 agreed _____________________ I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/
Taco Rubio also quite creepy Join date: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 3,349	02-03-2006 13:51 /signed. _____________________ From: Torley Linden We can't be clear enough, ever, in our communication.
Magdalene Steele Seijaku Join date: 7 Dec 2004 Posts: 114	02-03-2006 14:06 I agree ... we are crossing into the grounds of being prohibited to speak about disciplinary actions. I read the thread again and really see only a "ranting" not questions being asked. While the "ranting" might not be appreciated ~ it did not bring up the topic from the former post and it did not question the reasons for the action that was taken. Honestly, if the posting rules are changing - someone needs to write a handbook for us ...
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	02-03-2006 14:06 THANK YOU!! FWIW I sent a PM to THE MODERATOR and got the same bullshit back. meh _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	02-03-2006 14:11 Agreed, the thread should not have been locked. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	02-03-2006 14:14 Damn straight. _____________________
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	02-03-2006 14:19 One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts can get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time.
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	02-03-2006 14:20 ... or forever in this case for a bullshit interpretation of TOS/CS. _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	02-03-2006 14:21 From: Pendari Lorentz One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts can get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time. you did a bad job.
Metawraith Mistral Ghost in the Machine Join date: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 166	02-03-2006 14:23 Simplest solution is to treat these forums as READ ONLY, just peruse the Linden ANNOUNCEMENTS threads only, and only post to the SLUNIVERSE forums instead.
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	02-03-2006 14:24 From: Pendari Lorentz One thing to remember is that Resmods cannot edit posts. We are tasked with closing a thread that is in question of violation if we think it has come to that point, and then letting a Linden make the final ruling. So often a thread will be closed after many ARs are submitted stating the same violation. At the same time, we are supposed to give a reason why we are closing the thread. This is both a good and bad thing. Good because you don't ever have to worry about anyone other than a Linden editing your posts, but bad because one or two posts can get an entire thread shut down. Even if for a small bit of time. Stupid. Not you -- the whole program. You're tasked to close threads that maybe in violation -- that might be -- that could be -- that, well, YOU THINK IS, or else you wouldn't have closed it. The thread in question shouldn't have been closed by YOU or the LINDEN who also misinterpreted it. Bullshit. Shinanigans! I cry shinanigans! Shinanigans! _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	02-03-2006 14:24 I agree - was gonna ask why - but figured that would one of those 'your questioning our judgement' posts and would be closed But eh - tex gots them an itchy triggerfinger nowadays.. Then again I see shit moved to off-topic all the time that's clearly about Second Life and obvervations of SecondLife... I guess my 'give a shit' just done up and busted. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Gabe Lippmann "Phone's ringing, Dude." Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 4,219	02-03-2006 14:42 From: StoneSelf Karuna you did a bad job. This is debatable. The mod can only do what they think is right and, if wrong, it is an unconvenience. However, the entirety of the permanent lockage falls on LL. While anyone may have interpreted the TOS differently as applied to the thread in question, LL made the call. However, repeated beratings may make the RMs gunshy, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. _____________________ go to Nocturnal Threads
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	02-03-2006 14:53 From: Gabe Lippmann This is debatable. The mod can only do what they think is right and, if wrong, it is an unconvenience. However, the entirety of the permanent lockage falls on LL. While anyone may have interpreted the TOS differently as applied to the thread in question, LL made the call. of course it's debatable. it's my opinion. i'd be worried if ya'll went with my opinions. however, it isn't simply "ll makes the final decision". it's the power to place the decision before ll in the first place. From: someone However, repeated beratings may make the RMs gunshy, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. the highest ethic is that which restricts least.

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