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IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 01:09
its increible this shop buy all better lands in Second Life in order to sell utra expensive the best place in Second Life. im mad because they buy all new area in the East and them abuse with ultra high price, i recomended for all Citizen in Second Life, Dont Buy nothing from this Company, this is very abussive :mad:
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07-15-2006 01:23
Nah, thats how this game/show (whatever its called now) is played..
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Erik Pasternak
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07-15-2006 01:29
This has got to be the funniest anti-anshe post I have ever seen, lmao
IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 01:35
i hate the farmers in all plataforms and games, so they are the plague, I have seen as farmers damages the economies of the games , world of warcraft, Camelot, Everquest 2 Utima Online, Anarchy Only, Lineage2, RF online, Star Wars Galaxie, Super Heroes, Dungeons and Dragos online and Second Life its not a excepcion :mad:
Angela Salome
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07-15-2006 01:40
From: IvanTwin Rogers
i hate the farmers in all plataforms and games, so they are the plague, I have seen as farmers damages the economies of the games , world of warcraft, Camelot, Everquest 2 Utima Online, Anarchy Only, Lineage2, RF online, Star Wars Galaxie, Super Heroes, Dungeons and Dragos online and Second Life its not a excepcion :mad:


Who are farmers in SL?
Tod69 Talamasca
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07-15-2006 01:49
From: Angela Salome
Who are farmers in SL?


Well I have been known to grow some decent vegetables :)
Aint the same tho since the horse died. Now the ol' wyfe must pull myne plow to reap the benefits of that thar soil.
IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 01:51
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_%28gaming%29

A gold farmer is a generic term for a player who acquires "gold" (or other in-game currency) or items in a MMORPG's Virtual economy for the sole purpose of sale to other players via an out-of-game venue, such as eBay or IGE (also called RMT - Real-money trading). This term is sometimes considered ambiguous, as "farming" is the term used for the activity of gathering in-game currency regardless of its intended use.

in the Second Life Case they buy the best lands and sell very high extreme price and they create unbalanced economy in the world and they are a monopoly. The farmers are a plague and its to bad for any economy of a game :mad:
Erik Pasternak
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07-15-2006 02:06
From: IvanTwin Rogers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_%28gaming%29

A gold farmer is a generic term for a player who acquires "gold" (or other in-game currency) or items in a MMORPG's Virtual economy for the sole purpose of sale to other players via an out-of-game venue, such as eBay or IGE (also called RMT - Real-money trading). This term is sometimes considered ambiguous, as "farming" is the term used for the activity of gathering in-game currency regardless of its intended use.

in the Second Life Case they buy the best lands and sell very high extreme price and they create unbalanced economy in the world and they are a monopoly its is to bad for any economy of a game :mad:


Ivan, it's presicely because you are thinking about it as a game that you are way off in your attack on a very successful business person and a great rags to riches story for SL. Anshe is the best press SL could hope for and you sitting around bitching about her isn't going to make you the next one.

She has proven that 3d Virtual worlds can be lucrative place to conduct real world business, without enslaving malaysian kids to sit in front of PC's and bot out "gold" a 10th of a penny at a time.

Since then, Warner Bros, the biggest multimedia company in the world, has dipped it's toes in the water, The Electric Sheep Co is cranking, Nike is looking at it, and real world businesses are marketing in SL based publications and on SL related websites.

This is a business now, and not a game. Open registration and LL's comittment to it are an obvious sign they are transistioning SL into a platform and moving away from the player/community aspect. It was an interesting social experiment while it lasted, but real world economics are coming into play, and real world money is exchanging hands. If you want to be a guild leader, go play WoW.

Sorry if that's harsh, it's late, I'm cranky.
IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 02:15
From: Erik Pasternak
Ivan, it's presicely because you are thinking about it as a game that you are way off in your attack on a very successful business person and a great rags to riches story for SL. Anshe is the best press SL could hope for and you sitting around bitching about her isn't going to make you the next one.

She has proven that 3d Virtual worlds can be lucrative place to conduct real world business, without enslaving malaysian kids to sit in front of PC's and bot out "gold" a 10th of a penny at a time.

Since then, Warner Bros, the biggest multimedia company in the world, has dipped it's toes in the water, The Electric Sheep Co is cranking, Nike is looking at it, and real world businesses are marketing in SL based publications and on SL related websites.

This is a business now, and not a game. Open registration and LL's comittment to it are an obvious sign they are transistioning SL into a platform and moving away from the player/community aspect. It was an interesting social experiment while it lasted, but real world economics are coming into play, and real world money is exchanging hands. If you want to be a guild leader, go play WoW.

Sorry if that's harsh, it's late, I'm cranky.


no, you are not right , you dont know the real problems with farmers in the games, they damage all economies in all plataforms and games, i know Second Life its a plataform for make busisnes, i know this, and i understand but this is not excuse for this farmers enter to second life and make this,,

Second life is for make busisness great!!!, but this is not EXCUSE for abusse in the market , they like buy the best place for tons and sell utra expensive,
Khashai Steinbeck
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07-15-2006 02:17
For the most part, Ivan, I like ACS, as they tend to create a stability to the market. Yes, they own ALOT of land for sale, far more than anyone else, but for the most part, it is very reasonably priced.

Now, there are some cases in which they price land extremely high, such as area on the Southern Continent, near the new Welcome Area, but rightfully so, if I owned that region and I decided to resell it, I think my prices would be very near to what they are charging.

Oh and the difference between say, WoW Gold Farming, and Land Sales, is that it is legal to sell land in SL.

Please do remember that the current conversion rates (going from last night) are L$302/$1USD. I feel that charging the equivalent of USD $19.87 for a 1024m parcel is a fair asking price. This being based on what I seem to see as the median price for 1024m parcels.

And again, with a big fish company like ACS setting the majority of their sales around that median price range, it pretty much guarantees that everyone else has to either price the same or less, in order to stay competitive. On the flipside, if ACS decided to charge extremely high rates (eg, L$30,000 for all 512m parcels), nobody would buy from them. With a big company keeping prices in check, everybody wins.
IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 02:23
sure, but check the new areas in the EAST, and see the price, they have all terrain and look the prices, yea they save the market, ja, i dont think so, they low the price when they cant sell the areas for long time, :mad:
Erik Pasternak
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07-15-2006 02:29
From: IvanTwin Rogers
no, you are not right , you dont know the real problems with farmers in the games, they damage all economies in all plataforms and games, i know Second Life its a plataform for make busisnes, i know this, and i understand but this is not excuse for this farmers enter to second life and make this,,

Second life is for make busisness great!!!, but this is not EXCUSE for abusse in the market


"The Market" has nothing to do with the value of the $L or a Parcel of land. In fact, the "In World Economy" is largely irrelevent to the future of SL.

The money to be made is on content, and how that content is used. The value of the $L or a parcel of land really has no meaning in real world economics when Pepsi Co decides to hire 15 content providers to build them a 10 SIM virtual amusement park. That's economic activitey and that's the dollar LL are after. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise, that's all I'm saying.
Allana Dion
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07-15-2006 02:32
I've never met Anshe or done business with her so cant judge her practices. But really Ivan what people are telling you is the truth. Many people run businesses in SL and many people just have fun here. The big business owners like Anshe though are not the farmers. If you are looking for farmers it is more likely the ten or twelve alts all sitting together on camping chairs owned by one person. What Anshe is is actually called a land baron.

Oh and....*smacks Tod69 in the back o' the head on behalf of his missus* Pull yer own derned horse! :p
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IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 02:34
no and no, this is to bad, they lowering the price when they cant sell the area in a long time, they have the best areas very expensive, but the hightest price its not the problem , the real problem is, they can like buy tons of parcels for selling to high this action convert this in farmers :mad:
Allana Dion
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07-15-2006 02:36
From: IvanTwin Rogers
no and no, this is to bad, they lowering the price when they cant sell the area in a long time, they have the best areas very expensive, but the hightest price its not the problem , the real problem is, they can like buy tons of parcels for selling to high this action convert this in farmers :mad:


Really we're not lying to you. Look up the term Land Baron in the forum search to find more on this. Many people dont like land barons and others dont care but it isnt farming the way you're thinking of it. Camping chairs (IMO) are where you find farming. (pretty lame low budget farming maybe)

EDIT: And um pricing low when land does not sell and high when it is in a good area is actually how real estate investing is done, second life or first life.
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IvanTwin Rogers
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07-15-2006 02:37
i respect all opinions here but nothing change my mind , the farmers exist in all plataforms and games and Second Life its not excepcion :mad:
Moonshine Herbst
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07-15-2006 02:39
From: IvanTwin Rogers
sure, but check the new areas in the EAST, and see the price, they have all terrain and look the prices, yea they save the market, ja, i dont think so, they low the price when they cant sell the areas for long time, :mad:
You can buy whole sims for USD1,000 each yourself and resell. Everyone can, it is LL policy to let players buy wholesale to split up and resell land. It is not farming. Not even close.
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07-15-2006 03:25
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