It's the edge of the world!

This is an oooold issue, and if you think it's been addressed to death, or doesn't fit here, ignore it.


...<.< >.>... It's the edge of the world!!!!! Voidsims. There never was much water on SL, but I take a week off, and I come back to find that even more water has been trimmed away!

On the south continent of the mainland, in the northeast corner, there was a small stretch of water, 5 sims by 2, where a small patch of land was connected to the mainland. I used to sail my Trudeau Schooner out of Montserrat, and sail up and down this small strip all the time, for lack of a larger area to sail. But, now I find it's been cut to something like 3 sims, and is no longer linked to the mainland. I hope this is temporary, but seeing that the sim names have been removed on the map, I fear it's not.

Sailing was really the only reason I played SL, so if they're going to start cutting watersims even more, I'm out.

The void sims in the NE were replaced by new mainland sims. Perhaps this is the intent all about the place.

Hmm. Well, if you really want water sims, everyone who wants them could always band together and buy a private or two.
"Yeh, I'l take Island 2, but without the island!"

There is an option i've heard referenced for "low use" sims. Basically you get 4 regions with each region only having 1/4th or less of the prim allotment of a normal island. Supposedly this is to allow larger 'convention' type areas and to encourage parklands.

Why not petition for a "Ocean Package" deal. 10 sims with each sim having 1/10th the prim allotment of a normal sim. This would allow for boats to move along with coastline to be created with a few piers for docking.

Just an idea. Feedback?

The problem is the void sims have to be connected to an island, they can't just be "floating" on their own, but I'm sure there are plenty of island owners that wouldn't have a problem with someone adding ocean around their island

There are a few private water areas at secluded islands, but they're all small, and because they're not connected to the mainland, noone goes there.

What SL needs is more water around the mainland. It really hurts the 'experience' of the game when you stand on the balcony of a beachfront resort, and look out over the edge of the world.

That, and it would be nice to be able to actually get places by water, if only an extra sim or two around the mainlands with some larger expanses here and there. Imagine the fun if the thin strip of watersims connecting the north and south continents was 5 sims wide...

In MY perfect little Second Life world all the blue non-used spaced between the island sims would be void space water that would eventually be used up by people wanting island. AS they purchased islands and placed them within the area each void water sim would turn into their private island and it would mean 1 less water sim.

This would be the most fun. Actually being able to traverse the space between private islands and be able to fly in spaces where you don't need to worry about hitting space junk or boating for hours and never seeing the same SIM would be really cool.

Of course, it takes servers to run the void sims.. I wouldn't think you'd need 1 server per void sim though. I'd think you would be able to bundle 20 or so void sims on 1 server, seeing how it would be no build and no prim used in it what so ever except the boat you are driving.


Seems reasonable and fun but for whatever reason Lindens have not chosen to go this route.

Maybe someday...


*huggles*
Savonah Madonna

Sounds like a good old dharma bum theory.

This really has merit. Why not create a proposal for it? Post a link here. I'll sign it.

It would be great if the oceans could be opened up a bit, perhaps permit travel between islands and the mainland, or just make it easier to cross between continents. Has anybody suggested this feature on the vote site yet?

The waterways on the mainland are generally good but those seem to be in need of better maintainence. One of the biggest problems I've run into are the low bridges. They carry rail tracks, but they're connected to a road on both ends... what's the point?

There are ghosts in the void sims if you know where to look. Old code, corrupted and broken flees to the depths of the voids where it waits and waits and waits...

Yeah, I went to go hit the water sims that used to be near the Phase 5 airfield, perfect for aircraft testing and stuff... and found them replaced by coastline, and access blocked off. :/

What pisses me off is the existing waterways are pitfalls of 1) stuff that really should be phantom, 2) security scripts eject people without warning, and fucking BAN LINES.

Sort of makes you want to AR the shit out of people inconsiderate of others. Or take more active measures.

Nothing that can be done about it. I would rather have ban lines instead of finding myself on a six second countdown to tp home!
I think there is no place in SL for boating or flying. I have given up flying in SL for flying in RL. It is much more relaxing and does not have the frustrations of SL. Even without those pesky ban lines and security programs SL just stinks for boating and flying. You have the problem of being on a vehicile between sims. Perhaps micro$oft will come up with a program that can do all three

There are large expanses of water sims on the mainland. The Portage sim is at the juncture of two of these "great lakes". I believe that old servers were utilized for this purpose as the older sims were upgraded. Prior to that, these areas were unaccessible void sims.



Are you referring to the water sims which I described? Are these being upgraded with new servers and sold as regular land?

Well the lakes are a bit small for real sailing, you end up going around in small circles, but no, there were two patches of open water on the east coast of the south continent of the mainland, one with 10 sims, one with 12. Perfect sailing areas, these are being butchered for new land.

In my opinion, SL needs a complete grid makeover. The entire concept of how it's laid out is flawed. Each sim gets a server. Crowded sims pile a heavy load on their server and lag, while watersims and empty sims that get little or no traffic waste server power. If they pooled all their servers and ran the place as one solid map, although hard to do, it would have many advantages... For one, they could keep the sim lines and names, to make finding a place easier, but there would no longer be border bugs and crashes when crossing sim borders. All the load of a crowded sim would be spread evenly over the entire grid meaning little or no sim lag, and furthermore, with all the unused server power from all the empty sims, they could add more land and water sims. Also, when buying an island, you would no longer have to pay for them to buy, configure, and add a whole new server unless you specifically requested your island be seperate from the main server grid, in which case the price would be the same, otherwise it would be drastically cheaper. Linden would be able to add new servers from time to time in waves to expand the grid, instead of constantly adding a server here and a server there as people buy islands, as they do now.


And, before someone says this, if one server goes down, the entire grid will not crash, so long as they've set it up to facilitate redundancy. As a matter of fact, I saw a commercial not long ago for a server that's actually made up of a number of smaller micro-servers, if you will, that's redundant all by itself. This would be perfect!


Altogether, if they pooled their servers, it would make things so much easier on the customers, on Linden, and on the grid. AND, if they did pool their servers, they could add alot more water sims. Heck, they could even put that ocean between the islands that everyone's talking about. (See? This post really IS relevant to the topic of the thread!)


...Anywaysu, that's my opinion.