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SuezanneC Baskerville

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06-11-2006 21:52

The preview grid has only one person in it now, me.

The inventory changes and other changes need to be tested. It's better that they get tested now than after they are put into effect on the main grid. The more people test them the more likely it is that problems will be found.

You don't need to fill out official tests to be of value in testing the code, just go and play and buy stuff and fiddle with your inventory and try to break it.

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Wrom Morrison

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06-12-2006 03:29

I think one important segment of the testing community is being segregated out of the preview. I'm speaking of the Linux client users. Yes give us preview and ALL OF US would go there and test it 24/7. You have no idea how many unused nerd power is just laying dormant. Give us a preview client and we will test, we will break it and we will point out what to be fixed. Nothing like dormant nerd power. SHAME!

Cristiano Midnight

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Join date: 17 May 2003

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06-12-2006 03:36

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

The preview grid has only one person in it now, me.

The inventory changes and other changes need to be tested. It's better that they get tested now than after they are put into effect on the main grid. The more people test them the more likely it is that problems will be found.

You don't need to fill out official tests to be of value in testing the code, just go and play and buy stuff and fiddle with your inventory and try to break it.

I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all.

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Lewis Nerd

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06-12-2006 04:03

Sounds like a use for the login message of the day facility.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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06-12-2006 06:22

From: Cristiano Midnight

I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all.

I missed seeing an announcement of a preview for upgrade that broke the inventory system - the version currently running on the main grid. I pay fairly close attention to SL forums and announcements, and I had the impression there was no preview of the crippled inventory system we are currently running.

There are a number of threads where people are describing and complaining about the current broken inventory system, some writing as if they were saying something new. The fix for some or all of the problems they are bringing up is already in the works available for much needing testing. At this point it would be better to spend one's time in the preview grid trying to make something work wrong than to document the current crippled version's infirmities.

Same for the LOD problems, I suspect, and the others.

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Cory Edo

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Join date: 26 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,851

06-12-2006 07:05

From: Cristiano Midnight

I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all.

Exactly, and thanks Susanne for making announcements in General about Preview grids - this isn't the first time you've been the one to alert me to the fact that there's a new Preview Grid up. I'll be popping on there tonight.

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Drake Bacon

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Join date: 13 Jul 2005

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06-12-2006 07:52

Having a Linux preview will help immensely, and aid in debugging (as we can take our development tools to the crash dump and find out where it's crashing, and report it back to the Lindens). We did this with 1.10.1 Release when we couldn't log in, and raised a fuss to get the bug reports in properly.

Which reminds me. They're looking for Linux-dedicated developers to assist Icculus.

Raudf Fox

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Join date: 25 Feb 2005

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06-12-2006 10:10

*logs in and reports several bugs.. several* I don't get it.. it's listed in the inventory, it should be in the database!

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odious Wallaby

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Benefits of a Linux Preview Client

06-12-2006 10:15

Currently there is no Preview client for the Linux operating system avaliable even though we are supported as an alpha client on main grid (which is actually fairly stable when there isn't a known issue).

I think that releasing the Linux build for Preview Grid would help both communities greatly. In general, users of Linux are eager to test and submit bug reports, I think you'd have a lot more people on Preview if it was avaliable to the Linux native client. Furthermore, the Linux build wouldn't ship broken at release as often as problems could be caught in preview long before the new release is rolled out onto main grid. This means better support for us and less confusion on release day in addition to additional testers on Preview. Overall a very positive move for LindenLabs and the Linux community on SecondLife.

Finally, releasing a build for preview would likely only require modifying a copy of the existing makefile for the Linux Alpha client for the main grid to use the preview grid's servers and resources. It shouldn't require much more work to compile for preview grid then it does to compile for main grid.

Moopf Murray

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Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

06-12-2006 11:43

Cristiano! Please stop impersonating Taco! It's messing with my bonce!

PS. Seriously, that's twice today I'd thought Taco had replied to a thread

*shakes fist*

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Cristiano Midnight

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Join date: 17 May 2003

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06-12-2006 12:22

From: Moopf Murray

Cristiano! Please stop impersonating Taco! It's messing with my bonce!

PS. Seriously, that's twice today I'd thought Taco had replied to a thread

*shakes fist*

That is because, like I did previously with Chip Midnight, I have also killed Taco, and now will be posting as him. At least you didn't accidentally tell me to go fuck myself like Kendra did to Nyx Divine in the Second Citizen forums because of a mistaken avatar icon lol.

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SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	06-11-2006 21:52 The preview grid has only one person in it now, me. The inventory changes and other changes need to be tested. It's better that they get tested now than after they are put into effect on the main grid. The more people test them the more likely it is that problems will be found. You don't need to fill out official tests to be of value in testing the code, just go and play and buy stuff and fiddle with your inventory and try to break it. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Wrom Morrison Validated User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 462	06-12-2006 03:29 I think one important segment of the testing community is being segregated out of the preview. I'm speaking of the Linux client users. Yes give us preview and ALL OF US would go there and test it 24/7. You have no idea how many unused nerd power is just laying dormant. Give us a preview client and we will test, we will break it and we will point out what to be fixed. Nothing like dormant nerd power. SHAME!
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	06-12-2006 03:36 From: SuezanneC Baskerville The preview grid has only one person in it now, me. The inventory changes and other changes need to be tested. It's better that they get tested now than after they are put into effect on the main grid. The more people test them the more likely it is that problems will be found. You don't need to fill out official tests to be of value in testing the code, just go and play and buy stuff and fiddle with your inventory and try to break it. I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
Lewis Nerd Nerd by name and nature! Join date: 9 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,431	06-12-2006 04:03 Sounds like a use for the login message of the day facility. Lewis _____________________ Second Life Stratics - your new premier resource for all things Second Life. Free to join, sign up today! Pocket Protector Projects - Rosieri 90,234,84 - building and landscaping services
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	06-12-2006 06:22 From: Cristiano Midnight I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all. I missed seeing an announcement of a preview for upgrade that broke the inventory system - the version currently running on the main grid. I pay fairly close attention to SL forums and announcements, and I had the impression there was no preview of the crippled inventory system we are currently running. There are a number of threads where people are describing and complaining about the current broken inventory system, some writing as if they were saying something new. The fix for some or all of the problems they are bringing up is already in the works available for much needing testing. At this point it would be better to spend one's time in the preview grid trying to make something work wrong than to document the current crippled version's infirmities. Same for the LOD problems, I suspect, and the others. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	06-12-2006 07:05 From: Cristiano Midnight I think a big problem is that most people are probably not aware that each update is available on the preview grid prior to release (if in fact that is the case). Previously, they have announced preview grid availability ahead of big releases, but rarely for point releases of the same version. More people would help test if the communication about preview availability was better. The announcement about 1.10.3 did not mention the preview at all. Exactly, and thanks Susanne for making announcements in General about Preview grids - this isn't the first time you've been the one to alert me to the fact that there's a new Preview Grid up. I'll be popping on there tonight. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Drake Bacon Linux is Furry Join date: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 443	06-12-2006 07:52 Having a Linux preview will help immensely, and aid in debugging (as we can take our development tools to the crash dump and find out where it's crashing, and report it back to the Lindens). We did this with 1.10.1 Release when we couldn't log in, and raised a fuss to get the bug reports in properly. Which reminds me. They're looking for Linux-dedicated developers to assist Icculus.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	06-12-2006 10:10 logs in and reports several bugs.. several I don't get it.. it's listed in the inventory, it should be in the database! _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
odious Wallaby Tribal Otter Join date: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 23	Benefits of a Linux Preview Client 06-12-2006 10:15 Currently there is no Preview client for the Linux operating system avaliable even though we are supported as an alpha client on main grid (which is actually fairly stable when there isn't a known issue). I think that releasing the Linux build for Preview Grid would help both communities greatly. In general, users of Linux are eager to test and submit bug reports, I think you'd have a lot more people on Preview if it was avaliable to the Linux native client. Furthermore, the Linux build wouldn't ship broken at release as often as problems could be caught in preview long before the new release is rolled out onto main grid. This means better support for us and less confusion on release day in addition to additional testers on Preview. Overall a very positive move for LindenLabs and the Linux community on SecondLife. Finally, releasing a build for preview would likely only require modifying a copy of the existing makefile for the Linux Alpha client for the main grid to use the preview grid's servers and resources. It shouldn't require much more work to compile for preview grid then it does to compile for main grid.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	06-12-2006 11:43 Cristiano! Please stop impersonating Taco! It's messing with my bonce! PS. Seriously, that's twice today I'd thought Taco had replied to a thread shakes fist _____________________
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	06-12-2006 12:22 From: Moopf Murray Cristiano! Please stop impersonating Taco! It's messing with my bonce! PS. Seriously, that's twice today I'd thought Taco had replied to a thread shakes fist That is because, like I did previously with Chip Midnight, I have also killed Taco, and now will be posting as him. At least you didn't accidentally tell me to go fuck myself like Kendra did to Nyx Divine in the Second Citizen forums because of a mistaken avatar icon lol. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.

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