Plan for SL-city in reality

Hallo everyone,
I´m an architect and planning a city for people who want to meet in person and play Second Life. This is about a real architecture in Real Life.

I made a website where I will present the progress of my work.

Here it is:

www.heloise.de.vu

Let me know what you think about it!

Heloise

Looks wonderful! Will it be ready for next week?

I was with you until your stupid (and incidentally bugged according to my web browser) pdf file crashed my machine.

pdf files ought to carry some kind of warning label on them.

"projects a modulated beam of light (from an electronic source) directly onto the retina"

My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!

You mean be eliminated? I generally don't even bother downloading pdf files unless it's must have info I can't find another source for.

Pipe dream due to access/existence of technologies this project is planned to be dependent on. Sorry.


Also, in your Venn-ish diagram, shouldn't all of Real Life encapsulate Virtual Life? To be a purist, Real Life consists of everything.

Ah but a man (and a woman's) reach should exceed hir grasp, or what's a heaven for?

Hello Heloise,

Welcome to Second Life.

You may find that this forum can be a bit more focused for chit-chat, and less for business.

I have cross-posted this over at the forums on www.sldevelopers.com,
here: http://sldevelopers.com/forums/412/ShowThread.aspx#412

and forwarded an email to [email]catherine@lindenlab.com[/email]

I think you will find, despite some of the pranksters in this forum, that there are a lot of people in Second Life interested in the community-buildings aspects, and in projects that cross the boundaries of "real life" and virtual reality.

Nevermind the low-thinkers, Heloise.

I understand what you're aiming at, and for the record, I downloaded and viewed your PDF just fine. Its a broad document, and could be refined further, but obviously you put it out there to get some exposure. I see its merits, I want the technology available to be able to do this (progress, progress!) - planning for it now isn't foolhardy, its a good investment for futurism.

I'll think about it some more, but I like it.

I'm really sorry if I come across as a "low-thinker" but this plan in its current form would be fairly impossible to implement as things currently stand in the RL. Basically it is a long way down the road, and I admit pipe-dream is perhaps a discouraging word.

This indeed would be a desirable outcome, a hybrid of the virtual and physical, however I believe it would take quite a bit more planning than is currently exhibited at Heloise's site. For one, the only plan that is there is a diagram that doesn't really give much information.

What exactly are we looking at in that PDF? A high level outline of the things we would see in such an idealized solution, with no logistical considerations whatsoever.

To that effect, I guess some questions are in order.

Heloise,
Where do you plan to implement this community, especially considering the concerns you have with it meshing with the outside world.
Do you have the connections and resources needed to implement VRD, CyberWalk, providing all residents small navigation computers, projecting images on to facades of buildings, etc?

I apologize if you have thought these roadblocks over and have plans in place to deal with them, but if so, these logistical considerations should be presented along with the high-level concept.

There's a reason many artists are afraid to show works in progress, and this is it. This simply is even moreso the case with presenting high-level concepts. They need to be fleshed out, unless of course the goal is to motivate oneself to come up with solutions to the issues the audience perceives. If that is the case, I look forward to hearing of your progress as you resolve these questions.

Granted it takes more time and technology to implement, but I'm not going to look at things and say 'oh wait -- need to get all of these planets in line first'. Why not plan for what you can, and when the tech catches up, you'll be more than ready to grab the opportunity and leverage your ideas.

"Low-thinking" is a bad term, I apologize, but it rankles me when people refuse (or seem to) not want to let their minds wander free, just to let the practicalities go take a stuffing leap off a cliff. Amazing things can happen and often do, when we learn not to continually second-guess ourselves about what is possible.

Anything is possible, we just need the will and time to make it happen.

While this vison this project may be a bit far flung and maybe even a bit into the future as to what is possable today it is indeed a grand dream worthy of relaization. Heloise, if I or the IVM team team can be of any help to you on this exciting project feel free to contact me in world. I welcome a discussion of the possabilities and how to make them come true

Impossible dreams, though, let you figure out where the possibilities lie.

Hopefully umlauts won't crash the grid. I really like my dvd collection.

I know a lot of inspirational phrases too.

Like:

"Put up or shut up"

"Put your money where your mouth is"

"Little strokes felled great oaks"

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"

I'm not putting this idea down, but the approach needs better planning. A project of this scope is not accomplished with that PDF alone, and I look forward to more details from Heloise's planning, if ever they should materialize.

but apparently mistake literary references for them.

Dear Lucifitas,

Please stop griefing me. A literary reference can be an inspirational quote. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The original poster asked for feedback, I have given it. You have contributed nothing.

Its amazing what can spring up from a game.

Glad to have a new architectural student in SL. Heloise. You've come to the right place. Don't worry about the skeptical aspect of discussions like this. A focussed critique of one's work is gold.

One thing that might help you in reaching the SL audience is to demonstrate your own talent and skill in planning and building the type of facility you require. Since your profile mentions that you are an architectural student you're probably eager to showcase those skills in our virtual world.

Looking at your concept sketch I thought you might like Robin Pennyfeather's sky city on Isle RFyre. As team lead I'm responsible for the integrated architecture and landscape architecture on the main level of Isle RFyre, and I look at Robin's city all the time -- I never tire of its geometric beauty. That's one example of a resident's showpiece build; your concept sketch looks like your own showpiece will be more extensive.

I belive Microvision is the only company who is developing virtual retinal displays.

It sounds cool, I guess. I don't really see the point tho. Build a city, than use VRD (ouch, my eyes!) to make it look different for...just something new?

Maybe I just don't get it, or maybe I need another cup of coffee.

Heloise, in light of Traxx's response, I apologize for the skepticism of my comments if this is simply an exercise in planning and not really one in execution. I honestly do commend the idea in and of itself, and as I mentioned here, I do look forward to the advancements you make, please keep us updated!

Hallo everyone,
thanks for all your messages. Of course this is planning in process, I plan to work on it at least until july. The PDF-file is just showing a first step, the functions it shows have to be integrated in a real surrounding. I will update my website from time to time, it is made to show the process of my work. Of course this project is a futuristic one, but I´m convinced the development of the technical basics will be quite fast. I think it´s important that we (the users of the virtual world) define our own ideas of how we use the virtual platforms and what we expect them to be in the future. If not, we will be dependent on the decisions of companies and governments. There are a lot of open questions, but I hope to find some answers during the process of this project. Fell free to comment on it, I´m thankful for your support and your criticism.

Heloise

I updated my website!

I tried to find solutions for some problems you mentioned. Even though there is still a lot to do, I hope to give you a better imagination of how a virtual city could work.

Give it a try:

www.heloise.de.vu

RVD!!

scarrrry!!

what if someone messes with your laser beam that shoots into your eye... blind maybe??

OMG SCARRY!!