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ToS Troubles

Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
05-04-2006 11:23
I wanted to let you all know that the N'burg ToS is an unfinished document. When I was writing up all the founding documents, the final one to receive my attention was the one that would formalize the project as a real-world nonprofit cooperative. To do that, I wanted to take an existing piece of legalese and transform it to fit the project. Naturally, I started with the SL ToS, doing a simple search and replace on words. Unfortunately, despite a brief forum dialogue, it was never touched again. Thus, in its current form, the ToS is sometimes nonsensical, sometimes in conflict with the other founding documents, and poorly integrated into the business and philosophy of the project and government.

I wanted to state this officially (as the author), as it seems like the ToS is being used in various threads as a document of authority, when it in fact could be a liability due to its weakness.

Solutions include rewriting the existing ToS to remove extraneous and conflicting information, starting a new ToS from scratch, or scrapping the ToS completely and embodying its better principles as laws in the city via the RA (recommended).

~Ulrika~
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,422
05-04-2006 11:42
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
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Solutions include rewriting the existing ToS to remove extraneous and conflicting information, starting a new ToS from scratch, or scrapping the ToS completely and embodying its better principles as laws in the city via the RA (recommended).

~Ulrika~

Another option is to completely start over from scratch, have a constitutional committee of all citizens interested. My thoughts are the ideal would be to mirror a current government and pirate their founding documents and laws where possible for SL use. Then build on/subtract from those documents that have already had the test of time.

That would make it easier for the average citizen to understand the government power structure.


Just an idea.. :)
Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
05-04-2006 11:59
Eh, I signed up today, so not all loss and no growth. Looking forward to seeing you lot about the sim. ^.^
Gwyneth Llewelyn
Winking Loudmouth
Join date: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,336
05-05-2006 01:41
I think most of all would agree that the founding documents and even some laws are incomplete, erroneous, and contradicting. However, the powers in the Constitution are enough to allow changing all of these as we see fit. That is, after all, the power of Neualtenburg: not to work on the assumption that all founding documents and laws are written in stone and should be treated as holy documents, never to be changed, and "translated" for us lesser humans by the Inner Circle of Hierophants — but instead that they are the result of lots of hours of work of specific individuals who, at a moment or another, might have made a mistake, or assumed things in a specific context that are not valid any more.

I'm totally against (always was, always will) throwing out "something" just because it was improperly done. Instead, we have set up a whole system to allow us to change what we feel not to be correct, or that should not apply to Neualtenburg any more.

I do seriously encourage the RA members to tackle the N'burg ToS and replace it/change it as they see fit. Well, even if the ultimate decision is to dump that document and replace it by a new one, I'd be glad — so far as that "new ToS" would keep to the founding documents and the essence of the spirit of Neualtenburg, of course.
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