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SC Topic: Unable to Fill an RA Seat

Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-10-2006 17:00
There is always the possibility that a faction will not have enough members to fill the seats it wins in the RA. This can occur when a faction receives a large number of votes but has no members willing to serve on the RA.

While not addressed in the constitution, it has been stated in the forum that these seats will be lost. Thus if there are five seats on the RA and a faction cannot fill that seat, the RA will contract to four seats for that term.

SC members, how does this sound?

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Aliasi Stonebender
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01-10-2006 17:27
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
There is always the possibility that a faction will not have enough members to fill the seats it wins in the RA. This can occur when a faction receives a large number of votes but has no members willing to serve on the RA.

While not addressed in the constitution, it has been stated in the forum that these seats will be lost. Thus if there are five seats on the RA and a faction cannot fill that seat, the RA will contract to four seats for that term.

SC members, how does this sound?

~Ulrika~


In absence of any further doctrine or law, this sounds reasonable.

OTOH, there's a fairly good reason to keep the RA to an odd number of seats; since we're looking to hold a proper constitutional convention after elections this is an issue that should be examined. My own gut feeling is "allocate the lost seats to the other parties as if the faction that cannot fill them had not existed". That is, (to keep it simple) say we have four factions, and one gets two seats and the others one seat each. However, the two-seat faction only has one candidate who is willing to serve - the lost seat would then go to the next-most-voted faction.

It is true this trades off strict representation for prudence in keeping the RA consistent, but on the other hand, if a faction can't gather enough solid candidates, should they actually be entitled to those seats?
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-10-2006 17:51
From: Aliasi Stonebender
It is true this trades off strict representation for prudence in keeping the RA consistent, but on the other hand, if a faction can't gather enough solid candidates, should they actually be entitled to those seats?
My personal opinion is that if a faction can't gather enough candidates to serve, then they forfeit those seats.

To me it's a question of whether we want to retire a seat or pass a seat on to the next faction as you said. Passing a seat on is something that's easy to do too with the Sainte-Laguë method, you just pretend that there's an extra seat available (6) and let the standard algorithm pick the faction that should receive the extra seat. From there a seat from the faction that is short is retired.

So, one could have the following options with three parties and five seats:
Retire: 2-2-1 becomes 2-1-1
Pass: 2-2-1 becomes either 3-1-1 or 2-1-2

I think I like the option of passing the seat myself now that you mention it, Aliasi.

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