Aliasi Stonebender
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03-15-2006 15:44
Discussion: how should we handle this function?
My own gut feeling is the same guidelines as the Raumnutzung group; the Guildmaster, members of the SC, and (possibly) RA. All of these basically will allow city officials to act as pseudo-Lindens when needed (i.e., the physics bomb attack we recently suffered) and thus relieve Sudane from having to do every little thing.
However, I would love to get other opinions on this matter. Thoughts?
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Claude Desmoulins
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03-15-2006 19:07
Sim technical management is the responsibility of the Guild. Therefore the Guildmeister and his or her designee(s) should be estate managers.
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Diderot Mirabeau
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03-15-2006 22:57
As I see it, Claude's interpretation isn't exactly incompatible with Aliasi's.
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Sudane Erato
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03-16-2006 03:12
In general, I would agree with Claude's approach. However, I feel it may be useful to itemize the specific functions that the Estate Manager provides, with an eye towards designating a "crisis group" who would be empowered to act in sim-threatening situations. Aliasi refers to an emergancy stiuation which developed which almost crashed the sim. In that particular case, there was little that Rudeen could add to the clearing work performed by the friendly Linden who cleared the rogue objects for us. But there may be identified certain critical functions which a sort of emergency executive committee might be empowered to perform. At a previous sim emergency, when the sim did crash and service restoration left us with corrupted terrain anomalies, I found that it was mostly the authority of the position that helped in relating to the Lindens, who were again needed to fix that situation. There was little that I could do except to identify the problem (with help from everyone else involved at the time), call for assistance, and then hover about as the "Estate Manager". With matters having to do with the enforcement of Neualtenburg law, where the powers of the Estate Manager come into play... Reclaim Land..., the Estate Manager is filling a purely technical function. In those matters Rudeen is a "robot" functioning on behalf of the authority of Neualtenburg. With matters having to do with the appearance of the sim... terrain textures, terrain boundary elevations, etc... yes, there it seems most appropriate for the Guild to be responsible. But, the new sharing options enable the possible formation of a land committee of the Guild which could have others involved in the process. (hehe... landscaping happens to be my passion... so I'm very happy in that role  ). Finally, perhaps the one biggest reason to have an emergancy committee would be to assume the duties of Estate Manager should that person become unexpectedly unavailable. A sudden RL medical emergancy for example (which... full disclosure... has happened to me in the past) could leave us without critical capabilities. For that reason, alone, I'd suggest some basic procedure be in place to share Estate Manager functions. Sudane
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Aliasi Stonebender
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03-16-2006 07:33
After actually getting to play with the tools some;
firstly, there's a button to return all scripted objects owned by a given avatar. This is quite useful. There's also a "disable physics" button, which would be a great help. There's also a "teleport home one user/all users" function which can be handy as a police action.
Estate managers cannot reclaim land, nor can they deed it. I don't know if that's intentional, but we'll still need Rudeen for that.
In short, LL seems to have erred on the side of caution in what a manager can do. A manager can clean up messes and set some of the more basic settings (the terraform limit, etc) but we must still rely on one user for some basic processes.
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Gwyneth Llewelyn
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03-17-2006 04:10
I can only say that the first real action using those new tools was to locate and identify a concerted sim attack in a few minutes, and promptly return Neualtenburg to a script-lag-free sim  Just because of that, hooray to Linden Lab  Philip said on his Town Hall meeting that further tools will be deployed in the next point updates of SL. What exactly the time frame for those are is of course subject to speculation; all we can say is that tools will have a higher degree of 'fine-tuning' delegation. And they will work on the mainland as well... eventually 
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