Copy - No Copy mystery

I made a multi-prim object. I set the next owner permissions to copy, modify, no transfer. There is nothing inside the object that is no copy. I box it and deliver it to someone else.

The other person opens the box & copies the contents to his/her personal inventory. The original object comes out with the expected permissions: copy, modify, no transfer in the folder that is created. The other person rezzes a copy of the object, does absolutely nothing to it and immediately takes it back to his/her inventory. The copy taken back now has permissions of no copy, no modify and no transfer. If the person checks the properties of the taken-back object, it still has next owner permissions set to copy, modify and no transfer. How can that be? Why are the permissions changing on this rezzed copy that is taken back?

there is a bug with permissions and sometimes items lose perms upon taking them into inventory or when transferring them.

lots of clicking.. you have to double check everything lately until somebody fixes the bug.

A common thing for me is that mod perms get turned off when I take an item into my own inventory. I have to go back and under properties reset the perms.

in your case this might be because of a combination of perms within that object.. what shows in the inventory is not accurate. Once you rez the item each individual piece will revert to its original perms. Most of the time that is acceptable to people who know how the system works as the little tags in your inventory that say " no mod no copy no transfer " are useless info when it comes to multi-prim items.

make sure you look at the permission of the textures used on the object. if a texture is no-copy, when they rez it and take it, it will turn no-copy

Thanks. I'll have to check this out further. However, it appears to be more than just a cosmeting thing. The perms actually do change. This only happens when I give the object to a new owner. Once it is changed to no copy in the inventory, the new owner in fact cannot make copies.

I'm wondering if the prob has anything to do with the textures i used. The textures for the face of the object are no copy, no mod. But they are not in the object's inventory. I always thought it would only be a prob if the textures were in the inventory and not just on a face.

Also, if the new owner does a simple copy and paste from her/his own inventory without rezzing, the perms do not change. It's only if you rez the object and take the rezzed copy back into your inventory that the perms change. So you may be right that it's a SL bug.

Make sure the object is rezzed when you change the permissions. Don't change the perms in the inventory - that's the highest-likelihood way for the bug to show up.

I never heard of no copy textures except when LL asset servers turn stuff to digital Moosh by taking all the perms away so not even the original owner creator can edit them.

I would have a word with your texture supplier haha unless they are "demo" textures if there is such a thing..

No copy is basically the worst restriction there is for owning nything on SL..cause its easy to lose forever.

what if the perms you need the most become unchecked upon taking it into inventory?

Then change it while in inventory and then rerezz it, check permissions again while rezzed, take back to inventory and it should be ok.

Then rez it again and look at the permissions on all the prims in the object for something like a no-copy texture being used. This is why most builders I know have "permission alts".

The bug is really a design flaw they can't actually fix without breaking content. The problem is that when you set permission in inventory, the inventory editor can't change permissions on content, or even see them, because it can't rez the object to open it up and examine it. Some people use this to fake a kind of "second owner permission", and others just didn't check and now have a bunch of products out in use that their customers wouldn't be able to keep using as intended if it was changed.

What a nightmare this was. This is a 28 prim object. The root prim contained only items that could be copied and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why the perms should change when I took it back into my inventory after rezzing.

It turns out that I forgot about some textures I had put in a couple of the child prims when I was building the object months ago. I never ended up using them but I forgot to take them out (Monica's face is red). Of course, those textures were the culprits. When I took them out, everything works as expected.

In tracing down this "bug" I learned some things. Reading the knowledge base articles helped refresh my memory about how this perm stuff works. I also found that merely using a no perm texture on the face of an object does not cause the perms to change when I take it into my inventory. The texture has to actually be in a prim's inventory.

Thanks everyone for the pointers.

Glad you worked it out.

hahahaha that is funny.. Hi can I borrow your permission alt? That sounds like a terminal ailment

I use friends who end up with free stuff.. for being my Krash Test Dummies...