How to make paraboloid arches?
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Ainee Kohime
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11-30-2008 13:35
Perhaps this is why there are no Antonio Gaudi-inspired buildings in SL, but as a homage to his architecture, I have been creating a 'Casa Gaudi'. I would really like to use paraboloid arches (Gaudi's main structural element), but despite torturing prims ruthlessly, I have not yet found a solution. The best I have managed is to elongate a hollow cylinder and bury the end in the ground, or to stretch some sculptie vault shapes which I purchased. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hermetic%20Palaces/118/119/26(I did try to add images, but SL refused to let me!) Can you ingenious people reveal a way to do this, please? Best wishes from Ainee Kohime
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Argent Stonecutter
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11-30-2008 13:43
The best you can do if you're not going to make a custom sculpt is to use just a portion of a hollow cylinder or a ring to try and approximate a parabola with a segment of an ellipse.
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Kornscope Komachi
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11-30-2008 15:30
If you don't find a solution, contact me, I'll try to knock you up something sculpty. I'll need some drawings or images to follow. And the texture you want applied.
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Sylvia Trilling
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11-30-2008 17:49
You might try Sculptypaint which is freeware and has an arches tool which bends a pipe or a square column. It doesn't do parabolas, but may be an easy way to get some shapes you can't get from standard prims.
I love Gaudi. Let us know what you come up with.
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Isablan Neva
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11-30-2008 19:03
Gaudi fans unite!
His stuff is impossible to build a tribute to without sculpts - there are just too many organic shapes and curves.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-01-2008 03:44
I don't know, it might be interesting to imagine what he would have come up with if he were limited to the prims of Second Life. 
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Ainee Kohime
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Recreating Gaudi
12-01-2008 06:48
Thank you for all your kind comments. Slicing and welding hollowed cylinders was the first thing I tried, but it just does not look right. I was pleased with my tortured chimney pots, and the 50+ textures I made were a joy to use! I do agree that Gaudi would have found prims a challenge to work with! At the moment, the three upper floors of the Tower can only be flown into, although I have provided landing balconies and sit targets in the furnishings to grab onto... Perhaps Gaudi would have approved of flying! Yes, a parabolic sculpty may be the only answer... I would love to have shown you the parabolic images I have collected, but now I have tried 6 times to upload the images I wanted to show you... Yet SL STILL claims to be having a "slight problem" and declines to do it! http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hermetic%20Palaces/118/119/26Best wishes from Ainee Kohime
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-01-2008 06:57
Send the images to Snapzilla and post links here?
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Isablan Neva
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12-01-2008 07:20
You can also host images for free at www.photobucket.com and use the IMG tag to put them into your posts. 
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Ainee Kohime
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Paraboloid Arch example
12-01-2008 12:31
Ok, as a first-time user of www.photobucket.com here is the tag: Gaudi Palau Guell facade, Barcelona Ainee Kohime's Casa Gaudi in Second Life Gosh I hope this works.... Best wishes from Ainee
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RemacuTetigisti Quandry
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12-01-2008 13:19
Check out Ariel Erlanger's Catenary and Half Catenary Arches sculpty packages at AE Designs in-world: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Vesta/201/175/23/ They will cost you; but I suspect you'll find what you need there. If not, you'll have to make your own with one of the graphics tools that people typically use to create sculpties.
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Ainee Kohime
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how to make a paraboloid arches?
12-02-2008 09:05
Gosh thank you, I am shocked at myself for not searching on 'catenary'! lol
..and I STILL can't upload those images!
Best wishes from Ainee
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Rolig Loon
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12-02-2008 09:57
From: Ainee Kohime ..and I STILL can't upload those images! Yeah, SL's system for uploading images to the forums hasn't been working right for ages. I have given up on it and have started posting links to flickr instead. 
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Isablan Neva
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12-02-2008 10:02
Ainee - when you upload your images to photobucket they will provide you with a series of tags. Look for the tag for IMG Copy that link and just put it into your post it will look like "  " (remove quotation marks...)
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Key MacMoragh
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12-02-2008 10:14
A parabola is a section of a *cone* -- not of a cylinder.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-02-2008 10:40
From: Key MacMoragh A parabola is a section of a *cone* -- not of a cylinder. A cylinder is just a special case of a cone.  Unfortunately, SL doesn't include a "PRIM_SECTION" parameter to do things like slicing a cone parallel to the axis, which would make this problem easy. 
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Ralph Doctorow
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12-02-2008 13:41
From: Argent Stonecutter A cylinder is just a special case of a cone.  Harrumph! 
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Domino Marama
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12-02-2008 14:45
Thanks for sharing this, it inspired the Area 55 technicians.. This was spotted flying over there earlier... 
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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12-02-2008 16:03
i would like to know how to make a 3 centered arch with matching inserts using regular prims..haha
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Ainee Kohime
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stretching hyperbolas!
12-04-2008 07:18
Lol, we seem to have mined a new vein of creativity here! Yes, I would find a three centered or 'Tudor' Arch useful, too!
Best wishes from Ainee (who tried to make a hyperbolic arch by torturing a cone, and ended up with a useful spiral staircase!)
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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12-05-2008 06:15
Hint to the ones who make the arches ... if you make an arch - make the trim piece too. An arch is useless if you cant resolve it back into a vertical or horizontal surface next to it or above it!
yes - the tudor arches would be popular with door and window builders
I am also trying to make a Baroque Door that has rounded edges and a sortof S-Curved top with a matching frame too..
hold on to your horses..lol
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