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Johnny Mann

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Join date: 1 Oct 2005

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07-09-2006 08:41

At least so they can be utilized for things such as windchimes, tire swings and that kinda joint.

I know they werent widely used but the experienced builder could use them, so as far as I'm concerned it should be a tool you can decide to use or not.

I understand they were buggy, but they were good for specific things like having a fixed obect that a another physical would hang from and be affect my touch or wind.

I dont think it was very reliable for things like door hinges, but there is a workaround for that works better.

Generally when a feature is removed it is replaced by and easier to use, better functioning system.

Do the Lindens plan on bringing this back under a more fuctional form?

Iso Orr

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Join date: 7 Jul 2006

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07-09-2006 09:37

Yes, please do... It'd be nice to have them for pendants and such as well.

DoteDote Edison

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Join date: 6 Jun 2004

Posts: 790

07-09-2006 11:47

Joints were addressed by Philip in the last Town Hall. Here's the CC version typed by Zero Linden (Edited for clarity):

From: someone

Caller: joints, is there a plan to bring them back?

Philip: There is. I built the wind chimes using joints that are so cool. I love 'em. We did an analysis of all the sim states and found that I, Philip Linden, (had) made over 95% of all the content using joints. The problem was that the UI was hard, and there were a lot of crash reports using joints, so we felt for stability we should take it out for now. When we get to Havok 2, which will happen eventually, but not as important as other stuff right now... but, once we get to a new version of havok, we'll be able to get joints back and maybe motors. I really think that physics is really compelling, but only if it is buildable and stable.

Joannah Cramer

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Join date: 12 Apr 2006

Posts: 1,539

07-09-2006 17:16

From: Philip Linden

When we get to Havok 2, which will happen eventually, but not as important as other stuff right now... but, once we get to a new version of havok, we'll be able to get joints back and maybe motors.

Translates to "unless you're a cat don't expect it happen in your lifetime, really" >>;

Bring Back Joints in a limited manner, please
Johnny Mann Registered User Join date: 1 Oct 2005 Posts: 202	07-09-2006 08:41 At least so they can be utilized for things such as windchimes, tire swings and that kinda joint. I know they werent widely used but the experienced builder could use them, so as far as I'm concerned it should be a tool you can decide to use or not. I understand they were buggy, but they were good for specific things like having a fixed obect that a another physical would hang from and be affect my touch or wind. I dont think it was very reliable for things like door hinges, but there is a workaround for that works better. Generally when a feature is removed it is replaced by and easier to use, better functioning system. Do the Lindens plan on bringing this back under a more fuctional form?
Iso Orr Registered User Join date: 7 Jul 2006 Posts: 3	07-09-2006 09:37 Yes, please do... It'd be nice to have them for pendants and such as well.
DoteDote Edison Thinks Too Much Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 790	07-09-2006 11:47 Joints were addressed by Philip in the last Town Hall. Here's the CC version typed by Zero Linden (Edited for clarity): From: someone Caller: joints, is there a plan to bring them back? Philip: There is. I built the wind chimes using joints that are so cool. I love 'em. We did an analysis of all the sim states and found that I, Philip Linden, (had) made over 95% of all the content using joints. The problem was that the UI was hard, and there were a lot of crash reports using joints, so we felt for stability we should take it out for now. When we get to Havok 2, which will happen eventually, but not as important as other stuff right now... but, once we get to a new version of havok, we'll be able to get joints back and maybe motors. I really think that physics is really compelling, but only if it is buildable and stable.
Joannah Cramer Registered User Join date: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,539	07-09-2006 17:16 From: Philip Linden When we get to Havok 2, which will happen eventually, but not as important as other stuff right now... but, once we get to a new version of havok, we'll be able to get joints back and maybe motors. Translates to "unless you're a cat don't expect it happen in your lifetime, really" >>;

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