Calling all Starship Troopers fans

In Minna near the border of Natoma and Minna, south near avatar central, is a small plot of land. I own this land, and I have a group based on the best movie of all time, Starship Troopers. It is a group, and a fanclub at the same time, I am currently trying to recreate sets from the movie, and would appreciate assistance from anyone who knows of either the Camp Currie intro scene (where Breckenridge gets his arm broken) or the Klendathu D-Day scene to come and help build the two.

I was a huge fan of the book... the movie had great bugs, but no troops dropped from orbit in powered assault armor

Please please please do a hybrid of both

Siggy.

Yes, the book was good, but i figuered i would do the movie as everyone has different opinions as how the bugs and the weapons etc. looked in the book, by the way everyone, the co-ordinates are: Minna 250,60!

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For the Camp Currie construction, btw...

The movie..... was genuinely offensive.

Dina Meyer topless was the only thing that saved it.

I don't see how you can blend the two. The society in the movie is not only NOT the same as the society in the book.... it's exactly what the people in the book were trying very hard to avoid. I'm traumatized by the sight of Doogie Howser in a frellin Gestapo uniform.

Gosh, wasn't that use of Nazi imagery just ever so subtle and understated? And whose idea was it to change (Filipino) Juan Rico into (Aryan) "Johnnie" Rico?

Alexander, I don't want to discourage you if this is what you really want to do. I'm not interested in it myself -- my opinions of the book vs. the movie are pretty firm -- but if this inspires you, I wouldn't dream of trying to stop you.

But you should know that as a rule, anything having to do with Heinlein is controversial, and Starship Troopers (the novel) is especially so, since it's his most political work. Starship Troopers (the movie) is even more controversial, because many of Heinlein's own fans hated it, so you've got both sides in a lather.

Again, my point is not to discourage you, but just to let you know that you may catch some grief over it (though not from me, and surely not from Corwin).

On the other hand, I may be wrong; SL'ers seem to be altogether more grown-up than the typical Usenet flamer.

I gotta say I LOVED the book and was highly disappointed by the movie. Really, except for the title and a few character names, there was very little relationship between the two.

That said, a lot of the tech in the movie was cool (even if it had little to do with what was described in the book) and it would be neat to see it in-game. Go for it!

But I still want the power suits from the book, and when I first head about the movie, I said "As long as it has the 30-second bomb, I'll be happy." (It didn't, but...)


>> Juan spots a building packed with Skinnies, and, running low on pocket nukes, he decides to cause some panic. He chucks a device through a window as he jump-jets over the whole block. He can hear the device squawking in Skinny-talk as he bounds away. The Skinnies hear:

*click*
"I am a 30-second bomb."
(pause)
"29... 28... 27... 26..."

>> He can see them pouring from the building before he sets his sights on his next target and tries to form up the line of super-suited marines that is sweeping across the city.

(That was from memory, and may be inaccurate, but that attack scene is a favorite of mine.)

The book is one of my all time favorites. Didn't like the movie much until I realized it was more based on David Gerrold's War Against the Chtorr series and Armor by John Steakley.

Put up a donation box and I'd be happy to contribute some funds.

Can't wait to see it when you are done.

The movie was done by the same guy that did Robocop.... and has the same feel to it. He claimed it was a 'parody.' He (to my knowledge) has never said what he was parodying tho.

As a shoot'em up blow stuff up action flick, it's not bad.

As Starship Troopers..... it's offensive. Heinlein had a definite message to that book.... and the movie trashes it completely. The entire point was that they WEREN'T a fascist police state, and had put a lot of work into NOT being one. The casual sadism of the society in the movie is almost completely absent from the book, and where it does show up is severely punished.

Basically the movie IS what people that complain about the book complain about. The book isn't.

You guys are kindof missing the points...

1. This is: Looking for SST movie fans to help with re-creation, not SST discussion...
2. I have given the co-ordinates, so there would be no trouble finding it in progress...
3. I saw the movie before I read the book, so from my perspective, the movie is awesome and the book is good...

Too late. Discussion has started

I think the movie was a clumsy half-attempt at what Heinlein intended -- then it turned into a hoo-rah action flick. Obviously the Nazi references are in the movie to show the evil that can come from a fascist, warlike society.

I stopped by Alexander's plot of land the other day. I saw the Teutonic-looking flags and the sepia-coloured poster of Nazi-saluting soldiers... and I thought he was recruiting for a white supremist group. It turns out I was wrong, of course, but it my confusion shows how the movie's designers/director abandoned any attempt at subtlety.

Both the book and the movie have inspired a lot of fans who have failed to understand it deeper than a war story.

I have dubbed your message, cubey, as a full on flame... I took your disagreement with the point of my post offensivley, so I think that you should listen to the thread-starters, not your rebel intuition.

Second, the book was a 'hoo-ra' book, with half action half drama.... So i dont know what you are talking about...

Third, do you think I am slow? yes, those 3 flags are my re-creation of the movie scenes... Way to go with your logic...

And third, i have read the book and seen the movie and look at the book as if a prelude... How can you say the movie is bad? Really i dont know what is wrong with you... but back to asking for the original thing, HELP WITH BUILDING SET, remember, or do you just want to ignore what i say and keep flaming the SST movie?

I can definitely see Cubey's point.... I'd forgotten about the flags.... (another nazi based symbol that I noticed from when I flew past the sign.) What if someone DOESN'T KNOW you're modeling the movie? Someone flies past it and sees the symbols from a movie they haven't seen?

I can totally understand how they might think you were recruiting for a white supremacist group. You aren't.... and I know you aren't.... but then I know you're modeling the ST movie.

The computer animated series couple also be of help here. It did a better job of bringing more of Heinlein's ideas to a wider audience. And early computer animation RULES!

-- S Weber

Nope, not a flame. A flame would be "starship troopers is dumb". I'm not saying that at all. Actually, I liked ST when it came out, and I've seen it two or three times now.

Good luck with your build. However, can I suggest that you omit the Nazi symbolism? People who haven't seen the movie (or even people who have seen the movie) may misread it. The cartoon did a good job of showing the adventure of ST without that element.

what cartoon?
I missed it (oh the horrors!)

when did it come out?

Untill now, I have not really examined the initial "flame", now I actually take in to consideration of nobody knowing what I am displaying... But that leads to me thinking, I have no idea why when you see soldiers, you think of nazis? They are not doing the 'nazi salute' nor are they bearing german colors or swasticas.... I think you're all just paranoid...

Um, look at it again.

They ARE doing a salute that was intentionally patterned after the nazi salute. The eagles on those flags are INTENTIONALLY nazi inspired. (He changed the colors, but the basic design is the same.) The propaganda is INTENTIONALLY similar to that used by the nazis... although intentionally distorted to a ludicrous extreme as well.

This was Verhoven's intent. And it's what annoys fans of the book. It's also the point we're trying to get across. Verhoven intentionally made the society in the movie one that resembled a cross between nazi germany and his earlier movie, Robocop.

Hmm, I guess I COULD agree with you, that the pictures ARE probably inspired by nazis...

BUT why is everyone getting mad/annoyed/scared of it and blaming it on me!? It's in no way my fault that it MAY be inspired by nazis, and also, whats wrong with pictures of nazis?

It doesn't mean I am a nazi or I like their actions, it just means that I happen to favor a movie that includes some aspects that were POSSIBLY inspired by nazis, thats all!

-Jeeze guys, loosen up!