How does one cancel their open spaces?
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Yoki Enoch
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 110
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10-29-2008 11:22
Sorry for this dumb question, but I have to cancel my open space before the rush happens in a month or so. How does one go about it? I have searched the alleged "knowledge base" and sure enough, how to stop being billed for a sim and cancelling a sim, etc., yield no results at all. I am completely pulling out of SL due to this outrage in price increases. But I would like to do it gracefully.
Thanks.
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Sera Lok
Lok's Low Prim Furniture
Join date: 5 Sep 2006
Posts: 169
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10-29-2008 11:25
From: Yoki Enoch Sorry for this dumb question, but I have to cancel my open space before the rush happens in a month or so. How does one go about it? I have searched the alleged "knowledge base" and sure enough, how to stop being billed for a sim and cancelling a sim, etc., yield no results at all. I am completely pulling out of SL due to this outrage in price increases. But I would like to do it gracefully.
Thanks. if you mean "cancel" as in, abandon your sim back to LL, you need to file a support ticket with LL saying you no longer want the island and to take it offline before the next bill date. sorry to hear you are leaving.
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Yoki Enoch
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 110
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10-29-2008 11:32
From: Sera Lok if you mean "cancel" as in, abandon your sim back to LL, you need to file a support ticket with LL saying you no longer want the island and to take it offline before the next bill date.
sorry to hear you are leaving. Thanks. But the categories on the support ticket area are not conducive to such an activity as cancelling/abandoning a sim. And with my past experience with the support ticket area, the service is absolutely terrible - these support people might get to a ticket in around 10 days. I wonder what they are paid to give such poor service? But that is a side issue, of course. I guess I might just have to manipulate my Paypal account to stop payments to LL. I would hate to do this, but it is not as if I owe LL any kind of respect after what it has just done.
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Zinbaco Kattun
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
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10-29-2008 11:39
the last time we sent an OS back I also spoke in live chat to make sure they had the request. The asked for the name of the island and the tier due date. our problem is that we are only returning some so cannot just stop the credit card / paypal otherwise we will also default on the ones we want to keep
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Exavor Diesel
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Join date: 24 Aug 2008
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10-29-2008 11:45
From: Yoki Enoch I wonder what they are paid to give such poor service? But that is a side issue, of course. Have you considered the possibility that they may be over-worked and under staffed? I'm assuming that this is the most likely cause for delayed ticket responses. In which case, it wouldn't be their fault. It would be a management issue. But with the economy as it is, I wouldn't blame Linden Labs if they were reluctant to recruit more employees.
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Yoki Enoch
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 110
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10-29-2008 12:06
From: Exavor Diesel Have you considered the possibility that they may be over-worked and under staffed? I'm assuming that this is the most likely cause for delayed ticket responses. In which case, it wouldn't be their fault. It would be a management issue. But with the economy as it is, I wouldn't blame Linden Labs if they were reluctant to recruit more employees. Yes I have considered it may be the case of "over-worked" and "under-staffed" technical support. I have also considered that a 10-day response time for an urgent support issue request is atrocious. Since I own sims and I am also a premium account user, and since I pay LL a heck of a lot of money, I do expect something far better than what I have received in the past as far as technical support is concerned. But then again, I never did expect such questionable business practices either as is the case with the recent price hike of 67% in tier for open spaces. So I guess understaffing and overworking a technical support area is consistent with poor management. My choosing to not deal with such incompetence is, I believe, prudent on my part. However, now I am faced with trying to deal with such incompetence in order to remove myself from it. It is a challenge, I must say.
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Alisha Matova
Too Old; Do Not Want!
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 583
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10-29-2008 12:35
Call concierge or hop on live chat and make the ticket while chatting. This way you know they have seen the ticket, and you can stress "before the tier is due".
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Yoki Enoch
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 110
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10-29-2008 13:21
From: Alisha Matova Call concierge or hop on live chat and make the ticket while chatting. This way you know they have seen the ticket, and you can stress "before the tier is due". LMAO - good idea. Right now I am trying to move my residents off my open sim, and find them other suitable locations. This is my first priority. Then I will pull the plug on my open sim. You know, if LL really wanted the open sims to be "light" use, then it would have made them having no more than 937 prims.
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Walentine Gazov
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Join date: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 85
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10-29-2008 13:31
From: Exavor Diesel Have you considered the possibility that they may be over-worked and under staffed? I'm assuming that this is the most likely cause for delayed ticket responses. In which case, it wouldn't be their fault. It would be a management issue. But with the economy as it is, I wouldn't blame Linden Labs if they were reluctant to recruit more employees. Ooh please, stop talking about Linden Labs like they were small children!!! They are a company dammit! With the worst service in history. I really dont give a shit if they are overworked and that. If they decide to handle the issue with the OS sims like they have, then its their headache. They dont seem to give one shit about us, there customers so why should we cry for them?
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Meade Paravane
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Join date: 21 Nov 2006
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10-29-2008 13:33
From: Yoki Enoch You know, if LL really wanted the open sims to be "light" use, then it would have made them having no more than 937 prims. /me wonders how many times people will have to say that the prim count doesn't really matter all that much before we stop hearing lines like this..
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Spacexcape Bridges
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Join date: 26 Jun 2008
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have YOU considered?
10-29-2008 13:34
From: Exavor Diesel Have you considered the possibility that they may be over-worked and under staffed? I'm assuming that this is the most likely cause for delayed ticket responses. In which case, it wouldn't be their fault. It would be a management issue. But with the economy as it is, I wouldn't blame Linden Labs if they were reluctant to recruit more employees. ... that we ... the residents .. are paying for support and being understaffed and overworked is not something we are prepared to accept. I assume Linden knew that they were about to cause a lot of extra work for themselves!
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Alisha Matova
Too Old; Do Not Want!
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 583
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10-29-2008 13:52
From: Yoki Enoch LMAO - good idea.
Right now I am trying to move my residents off my open sim, and find them other suitable locations. This is my first priority. Then I will pull the plug on my open sim.
You know, if LL really wanted the open sims to be "light" use, then it would have made them having no more than 937 prims. I was serious... I am carefully trying to direct 4 single occupant OS tenants into a full prim sim. This IMO looks to be the cleanest escape from all this. I am lucky in that I still have multiples of 4. Here is the clincher though. I am going to give(full transfer) the full sim to one of the 4 tenants. These wildly changing prices create a hostile business environment that frankly scares me. Meade, The prim count does mater. It attracted all the tenants and made them a viable rental. Even when these were at 1875 they were not rent able, or the turnover was monthly. Mine sat empty. Only when the count went to 3750 did they become popular.
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Sera Lok
Lok's Low Prim Furniture
Join date: 5 Sep 2006
Posts: 169
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10-29-2008 14:30
From: Yoki Enoch Thanks. But the categories on the support ticket area are not conducive to such an activity as cancelling/abandoning a sim. And with my past experience with the support ticket area, the service is absolutely terrible - these support people might get to a ticket in around 10 days. I wonder what they are paid to give such poor service? But that is a side issue, of course.
-shrug- I've abandoned two sims through the ticket system with no problems. I even did a rush one when tier was due in 3 days (but you have to follow up in concierge chat to be sure). Just a side note... I have always had very good support from LL regarding my issues. -ducks- but it's true... I may not agree with all of the upper-level decisions, but the support staff has ALWAYS tried to help when they can. -shrugs again- i can't blame you for not liking the ticketing system tho, I can't deal with JIRA unless someone just hands me a link...
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Sera Lok
Lok's Low Prim Furniture
Join date: 5 Sep 2006
Posts: 169
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10-29-2008 14:33
From: Spacexcape Bridges ... that we ... the residents .. are paying for support and being understaffed and overworked is not something we are prepared to accept. I assume Linden knew that they were about to cause a lot of extra work for themselves! Look, I'm not supporting LL's decision here, as it's forcing me to give up space I'd rather not, because I can't afford it. However... if you aren't prepared to accept it... you always always always have the right to leave.
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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10-29-2008 14:38
From: Meade Paravane /me wonders how many times people will have to say that the prim count doesn't really matter all that much before we stop hearing lines like this.. /me wonders how saying something many times makes it true. The point to lowering the prim count is social, not technical.
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
Posts: 752
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10-29-2008 14:45
From: Exavor Diesel Have you considered the possibility that they may be over-worked and under staffed? I'm assuming that this is the most likely cause for delayed ticket responses. In which case, it wouldn't be their fault. It would be a management issue. But with the economy as it is, I wouldn't blame Linden Labs if they were reluctant to recruit more employees. with the amount of income they have they sure as hell should be able to afford to hire more ppl... on their web page http://lindenlab.com/aboutthey say Linden Lab has a distributed network of offices with over 200 employees worldwide. thats total... honchos, network, maintenance, accounting, R&D, support etc etc.. worldwide. understaffed is an understatement.
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