Hello Jack Im A Human Being 2

The goal of a good society is to structure social relations and institutions so that cooperative and generous impulses are rewarded, while antisocial ones are discouraged. The problem with capitalism is that it best rewards the worst part of us: ruthless, competitive, conniving, opportunistic, acquisitive drives, giving little reward and often much punishment -- or at least much handicap -- to honesty, compassion, fair play, many forms of hard work, love of justice, and a concern for those in need.

I have re-edited the above statement as it appears to be more appropriate in serving the purpose of what I initially meant. Everyone just got confused or wanted to debate the other one. LOL!

Where in your terms of service did LL promise you that the Second Life world would be run and policies be voted on in a democratic process?
No Where
In fact they reserve the right to change policies as they see fit.

Sorry i have to correct this. In soviet union captialism triumphed over totalitarian dictatorship. An real life communism was or will never exist in past, present or future.
And SL never was an democracy, it was and will ever being an business. And an business will be emerging, if all parties have an advantage from this.

Perhaps SL give you a feeling like a country, but never it was one.

Mythical Destiny, threads like this lose their point when it gains those your attacking sympathy, or make yourself look like an idiot. I would stop now.

Obviously you did not get my point Dilbert and Michaela.

As for you Dekka this just goes to show me the intelligence that Im dealing with here. For starters, the last time I looked you are not speaking for everyone else in SL, so I would suggest you stop posting your comments or anything for that matter on this blog unless YOU WANT TO MAKE YOURSELF AN IDIOT.

Also the last time I looked I was and am and always will be ENTITLED to say my Opinion here. If I want to make a comment here in terms of the SL Price Increase, whether its directly or indirectly then I will do it. You Do Not Dictate to me on what I can and cannot say. If you do not like it, tough beans! and I can also suggest a good place to shove them for you as well! If you cannot comment Intelligently to me then please do not bother saying it all, as it will not be acknowledged anyways. I know exactly what your trying to do with me here on this blog and I will not play into your little drama word game and I shall CONTINUE to say whatever it is I choose to say. I am not here to GAIN YOURS OR ANYONES SYMPATHY I am here merely to state the facts and call the facts as I see them. When I see a Corporate Company, that makes millions of dollars per year! (thanks to those of us who have invested in SL!) acting in bad faith by raising prices in virtual land, just for the mere fact of Capitalistic Greed, I am Going to Say Something about it!

QUOTE: Modern industrial civilization has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilization has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate, even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits, in the classic formulation. Now, it has long been understood, very well, that a society that is based on this principle will destroy itself in time. It can only persist, with whatever suffering and injustice that it entails, as long as it is possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create are limited, that the world is an infinite resource, and that the world is an infinite garbage can. At this stage of history either one of two things is possible. Either the general population will take control of its own destiny and will concern itself with community interests, guided by values of solidarity, sympathy and concern for others, or alternatively there will be no destiny for anyone to control...In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured, they may well be essential to survival."

"Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."

Regards

Mythical, I think you misunderstood my post. I am actually in total agreement with you. But posting your annoyance about this policy the Lindens have stated they are going to apply, in many threads is likely to produce negative reactions to you and not to the Lindens who should get them. I just thought I was giving good advice. And I didn't actually say you were an idiot.

And to show exactly were I come from about being for residents or the Lindens:

http://flickr.com/photos/dekka_raymaker/2834656118/in/photostream/

The guy hanging from the lamppost is named Censor Linden.

http://flickr.com/photos/dekka_raymaker/2834656284/in/photostream/

Well I checked your urls and you have some very cool pictures. I hear what your saying and I appreciate that. However it is it up to me to choose what I want to say in terms of voicing my opinion against certain SL Policy criteria, and especially against the raise in prices. SL does not seem to get the fact that in real life the cost of living has also increased and alot of places including the USA is in a major recession. I would like to think that if they are going to go through with this rip off idea, that they at least give current owners of open spaces some form of compensation in terms of a longer time period grace! or increase in prim usage, and/or some added options that are more viable and reasonable in terms to what they are already demanding! God knows there have been enough excellent suggestions made and brought forth to them. I would like to HOPE that they are at least taking some of them into consideration! Well see what happens...


Regards.

This entire statement and the following thread is invalidated due to there never being a democracy to be triumphed over. It's a REPUBLIC. Say it with me: R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c. Very good! I knew you could do it. You get a gold star.

"So you think that money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money? Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think.

"I don't build in order to have clients. I have clients in order to build."


Ayn Rand

First of all Afroduck I shall NEVER be a Republican. I shall always remain a DEMOCRAT. Can you spell that? LOL! Now I realize that being your probably a republican yourself this may cause a little bit of a bend on your already dented forehead but as I always say, pull on that elastic band thats on your forehead and SNAP ON IT! ROFLMAO! It just might wake you up a tiny bit. LOL!

In other words you did not get the point of my comment.

And Klang I am not saying that money is evil, in fact I like shopping in SL myself when Im not creating, and I often need to buy things like textures to create, therefore you see I am also good for businesses that are open in SL. If we all did not contribute in some small way, where would the businesses be now. Where would your business be if it were not for Clients? or Would you even be inspired if you had no Clients per say to admire and comment on your work? and also if you could not see others work that they sell, how would that inspire you? in addition to speaking with Clients who I am sure also give you ideas or challenges.

As an artist, My Personal quote reply to your build quote is: "I Build to Be Happy If A Client Likes it I Appreciate That". You might want to try that sometime. LOL!

Regardless, It is not Right for the prices to be raised in the manner the way they have been raised. If SL must raise prices on Open Space and Regions, which I personally think is a greed grab and completely unnecessary, then they should have a much better set of criteria to apply with the raised price rather then the one they are demanding now. Compensation should also be offered to those who just bought right before the announcement and more prims should be allowed for those who are having to pay more for their Open Spaces. What they are currently blogging in terms of the new rules and new price is simply not sufficient. I find it very dictatorial and unreasonable to say the least.

Also, Since you asked me about money, now that you mention it, did you know that hygienically speaking one of the most dirtiest things that people handle nowadays all over the world, is money?

Support Bacteria is the only Culture Some People have on line, LOL!

Laterzzzzzzzzz Im going to log now. Tks for the comments.

Peace, Peace, Peace.

Dude.. dude! Stop right there before you REALLY lose all credibility, and read what he said again.. it's not a "political party" statement, it is an ideological one. In other words, not "Democrat versus Republican" parties, but "a Democracy versus a Republic" government model.

The US is not a *true* Democracy, but is a Representative Democracy, or, more specifically, a Republic.

Same with the Soviet Union. It was not a *true* Communist government, but rather a constitutional socialist state.



I think he got it just fine; he was just correcting your gross generalization, is all.

Other than that, I believe a great deal in what you say (or at least what you quoted that others said).

Talarus, LOL! I was just JOKING! (Partly)... in terms of my response, so lighten up! Ya gotta laugh sometimes even when times are not always positive.

Now in terms of the quote I initially posted i.e. “In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy.” which some folks seem to be focusing directly on and not minding what I really meant by it, so let me spell it out for you. First using this quote I was attempting to indicate that SL is a Capitalistic Corporation, therefore appears not to give a crap about democracy and what the people have say or how they are being affected! Allow me to introdue you to the definition of the word for Capitalism: "an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, esp. as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth." of and which Second Life is a Capitalistic Corporation and the primary owners are Capitalist.

I have nothing against folks making a profit as long as it is not at the expense of other folks SL Existence and Experience. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Therefore, I do have a problem with Second Life beause they act in a manner where they only care about supporting themselves and do not do anything to help or listen to the people that are actually putting the dollars in their pocket. It appears to me they should revise their TOS and put in this new law about their corporation which should should read the following:

SL Policy and How We Like Do Business With Clients:

"The first law of the market is to make the largest possible profit from other SL Clients labor or go out of business. i.e. investing in SL Profitability rather than the SL human need is the determining condition of SL private investment."

That pretty much says it.

SL has acted in a very Capitalistic Manner and its wrong. What is wrong with it?

The goal of a good society is to structure social relations and institutions so that cooperative and generous impulses are rewarded, while antisocial ones are discouraged. The problem with capitalism is that it best rewards the worst part of us: ruthless, competitive, conniving, opportunistic, acquisitive drives, giving little reward and often much punishment -- or at least much handicap -- to honesty, compassion, fair play, many forms of hard work, love of justice, and a concern for those in need.

SL has raised the prices on those of who have contributed the most towards a positive SL Experience. Educators, Charity Fund Raisers, Musicians, Artists and Spiritual Folks. And instead of being rewarded for what we have contributed, we in fact are being punished? by raising the OS and Regions fees without compensation and absolutely NO Consideration. Whats wrong with this picture? I have been reading other folks comments and even the computer technicians and mathematicians have agreed that this price increase is just a money grab and there is absolutely no excuse for it, the technology reason has already been invalidated.

In addition if SL must raise the price then then there should be some compensation given to those who recently purchased OS and Regions right before the announcement of price increase and/or prim usage should be increased to make it worth what were paying!

In terms of my credibility Talurus, When I see something wrong I address it, sometimes I add a little humor to lighten things up, If you do not understand what I am saying then please do not jump to conclusions that you do, because obviously you did not.

Thanks for the comment I think? LOL!

Peace, Peace, Peace.

Regards,

/me stares in disbelief at the prokofyization of the thread

It seems to be a common mistake to think of LL as a government.

Realize, please that they are a business. Nothing will change until the majority of residents treat LL like a business. If you feel they are treating you well, reward them with your money. If not, you know what to do in that case as well.

Oh yes and you can be assured they will not be getting my business which also means this will unfortunatley probably affect some of the, business owner shops that I love to shop at for trees and flowers and such and I have spent alot of lindens in them and they know who are and they know who I am. I cannot even begin to tell you how many lindens I have spent there, LOL! but it was for the good of them and for me as well so that I could add nice things to my park! Not to mention the wonderful visitors I have had will also be missed and I am sure they will miss my park to. This has already been indicated to me by a few visitor who like visit there often.

Actually what is on my mind now? Well lets see I went to SL and wore a Protest Flag and decided to protest at the location a: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dore/151/79/63. It was indicated to me by another spiritual organization that it was okay to protest there. I showed up stood silently and proudly with my flag in hand. There were a couple of Lindens Employees, yes people real linden employees! not linden clients, as soon as they saw the flag, they started throwing and creating objects at and on me and continously shoved me around, stating nobody likes me. Still I stood my ground! They continued to act in an aggressive manner (and these are people that are supposed to be Linden Lab employee helpers?) Well course, after taking a few minutes of this, I finally got pissed off with all their SPAMMING OBJECTS being thrown at me and being shoved around by the LINDEN Employee, so in retaliation back I started yelling out what I really thought of the Linden Increases.

The Linden Employees didnt like that to much and the next thing I know is I get the following email:


Warning or Suspension of Your Second Life Account‏
From: [email]no-reply@secondlife.com[/email]
Sent: November 4, 2008 12:13:53 PM
To: Mythical Destiny

Dear Mythical Destiny,


This email is notification of action regarding your Second Life account,
Mythical Destiny, for violation of the Second Life Terms of Service or
Community Standards. The violation in question occurred on November 4,
2008 in the region of Ahern.

Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming

Repeatedly and/or persistently transmitting undesired
content, whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture
drop, or email to another Resident is unacceptable.

Action:

As a result of this violation, your Second Life account is
being temporarily suspended for a period of 1 days. It will
return to active status on Wednesday, Nov 05, 2008.

Appeal Process: The decision to suspend your Second Life access was
reached after investigation of your use of the Second Life software and
service. If you would like to appeal your suspension, you may contact
Second Life Support, in writing, at the address below:

Second Life Support

Linden Lab

945 Battery Street

San Francisco, CA 94111


You may also appeal electronically by filing a support ticket via the
support portal at http://www.secondlife.com/support/

Please provide relevant information that you believe would explain the
above violation. Linden Lab reserves sole discretion in considering
whether to take any action on a written appeal.


Sincerely,

Linden Lab


Henceforth my account was closed for one day, maybe after posting this they will even closer it longer. Frankly I dont care what they do at this point, the damage has been done! I posting this message to ALL OF YOU as a warning that whoever protests in SL about the OS and REGION increase in prices could risk having their account banned or suspended for at least a day, like what happened to me! So let me get this right, its okay for Linden Employees to push me around and act aggressively and ingnorantly towards me and I am just supposed to stand there and take? There are all kinds of negative behaviours going on SL, yet here I am simply and initially QUIETLY PROTESTING with a Flag, my Account Gets SUSPENDED for one day!

In Addition, Not only is the raise in prices unfair and very bad in timing, so is the reaction by Linden Lab Corporation towards those of us have posted. I know that some of you do not get my comments and sometimes misconstrue what I am meaning by no fault of your own, Regardless, the one thing we have here in common is the price increase on OS and Regions. The indicated price is simply not acceptable without some added options! and as I stipulated before there should be compensation offered to those of us who are owners of regions or os and especially to those who had recently purchased an OS or Region a day or two right before the price announcement! There are plenty of solutions and alternatives in terms of resolving this matter, that have been offered from the many SL Client comment suggestions i.e. folks here on this blog and I see no reason as to why most of them cannot be addressed and also acted on/implemented!

In conclusion, all I ever wanted to was create a nice spiritual park where people could get together and chat and where it was safe and welcoming for all to visit.

In the meantime perhaps what I am going to do is sell what little open space I do own. Keep my small free lot that I dont have to pay any teir on and it comes with a beautiful sunset, and just simply not buy any land or anything at all. In fact It will be SL PAYING ME, my 300 Lindens Per Week, LOL! Can I live with that? Yes actually I think I can. I just wont log in as much and there are plenty of other games to play the can be just as fun and exciting but in a different way, City of Heroes, World Warcraft, Starwars, and I havent tried sim city so that might be pretty cool to check out, none of those alternatives cost no where near is much as what SL is currenly asking for. And in the meantime I will just sit back and collect my SL Lindens! for Free! Thats How Capitalism Works Right? LOL!

Well thats all for now folks.

Peace, Peace, Peace.