Exodus to OpenLife, LL is loosing customer base, how to fix it.

Alright, we are looking at mass drama caused by LLs continued plan of break neck changes to land sales, flip flopping back and forth between making mainland estates and island estates the most viable option. Offering OSes with increased prim, lowing there prices and then doing NOTHING! till the market reaches critical mass in favor of these reasons, then turn around and make the uneconomical against the tanked Mainland prices, LL obviously believing everyone will rush to the other side of the ship to boost Mainland prices till they hit critical mass. Unfortunately many are tired with this business plan and are willing to rist instability and bugs for a more stable business plan.

Many are fleeing to OpenLife, and honestly Sakai seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good plan for his economy, and expect that to continue with he plans for land values. This means though land values will invariably go up, they will be increased gradually and with a measure of stability, not the wild flip flop plans like LL.

What should LL take from this? Step up tier 15% to 30% per quarter and watch closely for the balancing point, grandfather older OSs and have there owners understand that these rates will rise to the balancing point when its reasonably established. Then introduce there new moderate use sim scheme, or even better introduce that first! Then balance the market and try to keep it that way.

LL Do not just think of those that will leave for financial gain, think of their friends and those that are just simply tired of the drama enduced by LL decisions. Trust me they have not become better in the year that I have been here, and I am sure that those older than I would agree for far longer than that.

Well i was just over there,the land is so much cheaper,i suppose it is not as good as SL yet,but it seems a lot of unhappy SL residents are flocking over there
All i want is a private island at a reasonable price,if SL goes through with shoving this increase down our throats i will seriously consider openlife,
Right now i just registered thats all.
I so love SL and i do love my OS island,

Well for myself and my romantic partner, as SL DJs we can't just pull out lock stock and barrel YET! But with with plans to buy a cluster of 4 private sims in OL to set up happy residences and the chance to get in at the ground floor of the OL economy with Credit expected to release this weekend, from the founders mouth, you may eventually find ourselves completely pulling our or tiering down drastically, only logging to SL to visit friends that do not make the exodus to OL.

So no I do not expect all to pull the plug just yet, but viable options like OL are up and coming up, and potential of a dare I say it more governance stable economy I can easily see more residence choosing to put there hard earned USD into OL over the highly unstable SL economy.

As a newbie content creator, I'm looking at OpenLife if there really would be an Exodus out of Second Life, but I just don't see that happening. You say many are fleeing to OpenLife, but I don't think that's really the case. I think a few very upset individuals, a very small portion of users, will test it out and perhaps stay out of spite. But if there isn't enough development, there's really no reason to jump ship yet. :3 I'm interested in starting fresh, as I don't have a lot of ties with Second life yet, but oldbies out there have a community that I don't think they're willing to abandon. And there would be many more threads here about it if they were. :3

More bots! no one will ever notice.

It's been reported by Metaverse I believe that since the announcement on Open sims, 2000 people have newly registered at Openlife.

See; http://www.metaversejournal.com/category/sl-alternatives/

I am one of those. And while a bit awkward, the format and setting is not that much unlike SL except an SL that is starting up. Everyone has to start somewhere and regardless about numbers, it's obvious that that the opportunity for talent and growth exists.

If people invest in something like they have in SL......it's going to grow.

Jack, this is a very bad move that will without a doubt and has already started the bleeding of real world money from SL. That is a fact. This announcement has and will have a profound impact on the bottom line at SL and the opposite at alternative virtual worlds.

With every decision there is an impact. This one is going to bring some pain with it regardless of the reason. Lost revenue for any business right now is something that needs stopped before it gets worse.

But then again if SL can afford the lost revenues it is going to see the next few months and even more Jan 1st, by all means go ahead.

In the meantime, having a back up plan like Openlife or something else....is just smart.

We have given our Ocean OS sim up and are going to invest what we would have spent here into openlife. Whilst i was able to see SL in its infancy and didn't stay then so whilst openlife is new im sure it will grow. We will keep our full sim in SL and encourage our 800+ member group to come with us and have it as a back up. Another friend that has many sims and a 2000 member group is also looking at it.

As you say it doesn't hurt to have a back up and the way LL is running its business who knows whether it will be here tomorrow or not, OK well maybe it will but people have lost trust in LL and its management and im sure there will be a steady trickle away, although im sure many will stay as we will for the time being, whilst being a pioneer in a Brave new world

There's also a grid called 3rd Rock. Looks pretty good so far. They have an economy with a currency, very important for builders.
http://www.3rdrockgrid.com/main/
I won't think twice now, after LL broke the trust with me as a resident, the paying member that I am, to pick up my marbles and go to another playground.

I've also taken a look. I like the looks. It's a bit finicky with logins and takes a while to find a sweet spot login island, but the potential is there. 45000 prims on a parcel is stunning to someone like myself, who likes to make things look real, and not worry about the amount of prim I'm using. Plus the fact that you can make prims up to 100m is awesome. Granted, load will probably reduce some of these things, but to raise the bar that far to start, hopefully thinks can only get better.

I will be encouraging those I know to take a look, and helping them with the knowledge I already have. The same I have done in SL. Along the way, I will learn from them, the way I have in SL.

Not leaving here. Just taking up residence there. I can't justify the cost of an openspace sim here, but i can sure justify that same amount, less actually on Open Life Grid, with 3x the prim allowance.

Totally agree with you and we have just purchased a sim there As soon as its transfered let building commence

PS: For those of you that have to pay VAT in SL you don't on openlife grid

What's it like over there? Last time I logged on to OL Grid the map was a blank, the ground didn't rez, everyone was Ruth stuck in the "T" pose, when I went to edit my appearance I got immediately disconnected from the grid, and relogging was a repeat of all the same mess... Except one time the ground actually rezzed. (o.o)

On top of that, the crowd was uninteresting. All 5 people I met were SL ex-pats and they had nothing to talk about except why they were tired of SL. (>_<

Wonky experience, small cynical community, little to no real content.. No wonder LL doesn't act like they have competition yet. (=_=)

Maybe I'll jump in a bit today and see how (if) things have changed. (^_^)y

Thats true but SL was a baby once and im sure there will be changes as they get support

No viewer for MAC available for OpenLife? Where can I go?

OpenLife Grid is server side. You can use your standard SL client by adding this to the arguments.txt file >>

 -loginuri http://logingrid.net:8002/ 

(^_^)y

Was there a while back, owned land, found I couldn't log on about 90% of the time.

If I WAS lucky enough to log in, building anything was almost impossible.

THEN there was no clear explanation of how to pay for your land. Oh yes, there was the 'link' to go pay for it - but most of the time it didn't work - so - even after leaving several messages for him - the land was taken back by Sakai.

I didn't want to argue, so I left.

Good luck everyone, I hope you have a better time than I did.

I have stumbled across a few interesting build here, yes a lot you will meet when you first log in are Ex-SLers but I think that is to be expected isn't it? Also OpenLife will be getting extended features, I have yet to read up on Avatar 2.0 yet, but this is something in the pipe, and is sead to give avatars new features, also talk of being able to import mesh objects, not sculties, can do that already.

The true test is to see if they can bulk up the network and stream line the servers enough to make it stable under the load they are now seeing, and postenial further growth. But if their business model is solid and there new and unique features pan out, I can see LL having something to worry about sooner not later. This means LL should start rethinking how they do business now, not when those of us that go over have developed it into a David to LLs Goliath. By then the stone is already cast.