Are we being handle fairly or being takin advanage of ?

Let me say this first and formost ! I dont think we are being dealt with fairly up front ! I belive their are some missing information being keep from the public as to what the open space can handle ! and what is over use ! 1. just because you use terms openly and losely is a way to again hide infomation ! 2. I belive open space can handle stander rental use as homes ! most open space are split into quarters, as standar prims of home or trees dont cause heavy lag on the open space ! for not knowing the proper word i'll use ( duty load ) im sure their is a standar duty load that can hold homes/trees and still fall under light use, this info is being keep secret ! 3. I also can agree they were not ment to hold 20 or more AV's in a nightclub setting or heavy scripted vendors as malls or stores can bring to them ! this is were the problem lays as some in the rental game have just let other rent them with no control of whats being put on them ! but again open lose wording without TRUE info being use aginst the hold is uncalled for and truely UNFAIR and takin advanage of the hold for some who have not keep some type of control of their rental lands to maintain they are not heavyly scripted down ! possible ways to fix this problem is to stop hiding the true duty load of the open space ! and offer one for the purpose of home use and a second for business use sence this is were the real heavy use is comming from not as in home useage ! and becaue you left the old verbage to the update didn't mean it wasn't able to handle more duty load !

Your Options to handle it is Outrageously Crule to some and justified to other, this is the True problem to handle fairly to all ! you already know were the heavely use open space are and what type of activity is going on them ! but in your hist you want just ABUSE everyone in your changes ! you give NO ture fair options for all !! either pay or abandon the open space !! this is and OUT RIGHT ABUSE OF YOUR POWERS ! fees have to be paid to combine, if you only own one ! you have to PAY MORE OUT to make full sim ! this is PAY OR ABANDON ! and not a fair option for all ! you just wish me to give you my 250 USD and get nothing in return or pay an outrageuse fee that is not worth it for what you claim they were ment for !

other possible help would be to offer quarter mainland for the open spaces ! folks have spent their hard earn real life money here to try and get a return for it and some just enjoy the game ! you also uproot thousands of home renter that have not over loaded an open space just to live on it ! do you plan to truely say a few AV's and a home over loads and open space and for the folks that own ten's and tweenty's of them why are they sharing CPU's why are their 4 not on same CPU ?

If one Open space is only own why cant it be part of the Main Sim that is owned they have land tools to help keep down the LAG and can keep control of their Heavy Scripted Items

lots of things are not being talk about and its seams to be ABUSE OF POWER to the public just because you can, enstead of working out better offers to ease the problem that you say is comming from the heavy duty load of the open space sim's

I'm sure their are some better option avaible than just take folks money unfairly and untill you have gone thur and made sure all are being treated fairly then your simply ABUSING YOUR POWERS TO DO AS YOU WISH !

On my full sim today i have 915 scripts going from 1.0 to 8.4 ms and so far on my open space i have renters but 71 scripts at 0.9 ms is that and heavy duty load ?

Thanks For The Time To Speak ! ProTrucker GranVille

Of course the servers can handle the traffic. The ONLY change proposed is that LL puts more of your money in their pocket!!!!

Personally, I truly believe this was a set up confidence game from the start. A way of getting the unsuspecting (and FORMER trusting) people to invest something, so that they will not easily give it up, then soak them for all that they can.

People, do not forget, Linden Labs is nothing more than a glorified ISP, who is ALREADY charging about double for what other ISP services provide (storage).

Greed, people, it is LL greed.

If it was truly about server usage it would be easy to rectify. The correct way would have been to contact the Open Space Sim owners and remind them of the usage policy. Then warnings to people who were abusing. There were several solutions to the problem - one could have been to lower the prim usage or restrict traffic. But no, Linden are very clever! How many Open Spaces did they sell in the last three months?? Thousands! and what percentage of those are being abandoned at the moment? I would like to know that. I have two - bought for $250 by someone in May ... which I then bought plus $100 transfer fee for both sims - total $700 on those two sims. Outright profit! I've just submitted tickets to abandon them. NICE WAY TO PROFIT LINDEN! hope you are really, really proud of yourselves! My days in Second Life are very numbered now. The taste in my mouth is way too bad.

Do you get a grace period whereby you can change your mind about abandoning? I'd hold tight for a couple of weeks, there may be a change in opinion at LL and if there's not, then in 2 weeks you can still abandon them without being hit by the new tier charges.

There is little or no point now Ciaran. The tenants are all abandoning now they have heard the news and the land will be completely empty in a couple of days. I have to give their deposits back too, so my cash flow is really going to suffer. Combined with the drop in £ against $, days are very numbered now. No one will want to rent Open Spaces again now.

Even some Lindens are sorry this has happened:

https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/sldev/2008-October/012134.html

As has been pointed out, LL is basically a glorified ISP charging double the rate any other would charge. Difference is they have a captive market of suckers.

They sold the OS' and no matter what they say about abusing the resouces they happily placed single OS' anywhere and everywhere. If you sell a product people are going to use it so how dare they crow about misue!

LL should have had limiting controls in place before marketing the product and taking people's money. It is LL's fault this has happened.

But no one can tell me now that they didn't plan for this. Of course they did, it's the oldest con trick in the book. All the big video game companies use it. Think also of the cheap printers with print cartridges well over priced. Its captive marketing.

Trouble is Second Life technology is dating fast and they know it. Trying to squeeze the last drop of juice from the fruit will just make it whither and die.

I'm inclined to think that pinning a confidence game on LL is just like trying to pin a secret conspiracy charge on the government; in truth, they're both way too incompetent to pull one off.

That's all it is, I think, incompetence in their management business decison making process and their engineering analysis process, not to mention their PR and communications skills.

LL, just admit it, you as a company made an egregious mistake, and withdraw this decision on OS pricing until you can actually think it through with some input from your users.

They should be.. there are some shallow thinkers that are putting their company at risk with their ineptness.

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I totally agree with you and that whole thread was interesting reading. I for one will stay with SL until they raise the prices on the private islands then we will rethink our time here and in the meantime I will continue building in another world ready fro the crunch with LL which im sure will come in the not to distant future as i believe now LL has totally lost touch with its customers.

. . . I'm not abusing anything nor am I being irresponsible or unfair to anyone . .
. . I'm just a SL resident paying my rent , using what I'm paying rent for as best I can and simply living here !

The only unfairness and lack of responsibility here is that LL have allowed this situation to develop . . . . . . and how the hell is this going to benefit people like me !?


. . As always it's the innocent folk at the bottom of the property ladder that end up getting screwed !

Anukis

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