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A Proposed Solution Good For All

Aminom Marvin
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11-04-2008 01:02
What if Linden could turn a huge movement of thousands of people against their policy to a movement to work with them? The interests of Second Life as a company, and its residents do not have to be in conflict. Any fee increases or resource throttling could be avoided if the right direction is taken.

That direction is to reduce costs by optimizing the way Second Life and simulators work. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8503 describes problems with how SL retrieves assets and manages cashe that could be causing significant problems and system load. A fix for this issue could reduce load (and thus operating costs.) In addition, a transition to HTTP assets could increase speeds and reduce load at the same time. I'm not sure if the establishment of LLNet (http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/10/28/ongoing-updates-from-the-grid-from-fj-linden/) would reduce costs, but if it cuts out networking middlemen it could very well be. Linden Lab has a history of innovation (at times), and taking the approach of putting that innovation to use to cut costs through streamlining seems the best route.

But here's the deal-sealer: if Linden Lab devotes itself to pursuing cuts in operational costs first, they could potentially have the huge amount of resident resources used in the openspace movement instead help them make SL better and more efficient. There's many professional programmers and technologically-minded people in the openspace movement that could be tapped as a sort of think-tank for problem solving, or problem detection via digging through the code. Thousands of other less technical residents could serve to be bug testers on a massive scale, and given the proper tools and instructions, do testing.

In effect, the possibility of the Openspace movement turning their energy into aiding to better second life is a huge carrot at the end of the stick. Not only could this help fast-track new code, but also could help heal the wounds caused by this fiasco by allowing residents to have a meaningful impact. Residents win because in the end, they get a more stable, better platform.

Linden has a huge opportunity at the present. Approached correctly, this could be hugely beneficial for all. It's something to try, at least; Linden could see if the cost-cutting and new resident-collaboration measures are effective in two months, and if they are deemed to be unsuccessful and still deem their costs for openspaces (and resource use) to be an issue, they can re-address new pricing.
Ann Otoole
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11-04-2008 01:26
Good luck with that.

There appears to be something else going on with the mob controllers now. They are in these forums soliciting for money to sue the company that owns this website. So there is a serious ethical problem right there.

My attempts to bring this issue to light were attacked. Someone does not want the truth out in the open. They want a big ugly mob scene. And then to solicit for money off of it? Not talking LL here.

There is serious something is wrong with this picture going on.

Personally I think LL needs to focus the viewer team directly on this defect set and fix it immediately. This defect set is what will cause people to lose access to SL when the broadband ISPs implement byte transfer caps. This should be a top priority for LL.

The whole open space sim thing is related because this defect set is what caused the heavy load. It is the Windlight team's doing. But this defect needs to be fixed immediately even if it means dropping windlight until that group of people can write code that is byte transfer efficient.

Since it is caused by the Windlight team I see no solution even being possible ever. I have no belief LL will do the right thing because it is related to Windlight. Windlight is political and that team has already managed to set the community at each other's throats once before.

This entire thing. The entire debacle. All of it. Squarely on the shoulders of the people they imported when they bought windlight. it is killing Secondlife.
Delta Sweetwater
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11-04-2008 01:31
Who is Windlight and what are they doing? And what do they have to do with the OpenSpace Sim thing?
Ann Otoole
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11-04-2008 02:55
From: Delta Sweetwater
Who is Windlight and what are they doing? And what do they have to do with the OpenSpace Sim thing?

This problem:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8503

Appeared when the windlight viewer was released. (Version 1.2 series)

This happens to be about the same time these new open space sims were beginning to be sold.

So with the new windlight viewer there was suddenly a massive surge of activity on the back end systems.

I don't even care if LL made an error correlating this DDOS viewer to open sims. I just want it fixed. If they fix it then stuff will rez, rez fully, and remain rezzed.

But for this to be fixed someone not bloody likely to admit an error must admit an error so you can kiss it goodbye. Eventually broadband ISPs will just filter SL out at the router level to get rid of the redundant byte hammering.
Firelight Simca
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11-04-2008 03:00
From: Ann Otoole
This problem:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8503

Appeared when the windlight viewer was released. (Version 1.2 series)

This happens to be about the same time these new open space sims were beginning to be sold.

So with the new windlight viewer there was suddenly a massive surge of activity on the back end systems.

I don't even care if LL made an error correlating this DDOS viewer to open sims. I just want it fixed. If they fix it then stuff will rez, rez fully, and remain rezzed.

But for this to be fixed someone not bloody likely to admit an error must admit an error so you can kiss it goodbye. Eventually broadband ISPs will just filter SL out at the router level to get rid of the redundant byte hammering.



What exactly does that mean? "filter SL out at the router level"

I could speculate, but I'd prefer not to.

Firelight
Firelight Simca
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11-04-2008 03:02
From: Ann Otoole
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There appears to be something else going on with the mob controllers now. They are in these forums soliciting for money to sue the company that owns this website. So there is a serious ethical problem right there.

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Really, they are? I must not be reading those threads. That's a serious ethical issue in my opinion.

Firelight
Vryl Valkyrie
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11-04-2008 03:37
This is certainly NOT going to help "heal" my wounds of when you unlawfully recorded my voice on my private estate, without my knowledge or consent and then give it to the Herald to be published to try and hurt me as much as you can in my real life, even hurting my children or family who may hear it.
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11-04-2008 03:57
From: Delta Sweetwater
Who is Windlight and what are they doing?

http://www.google.com/search?q=windlight